[VS] Gai VS 5 kage

[Black Wolf]

what make you think the wind will vaporize her ?

Oh, I don't know.

Maybe the fact that a single punch created a 200 foot crater?

Even if she isn't vaporized, she will be very, very dead. Evening Elephants damage output is tiers above anything Byakugo has shown in terms of healing. She will die before she can heal.

how can you say how powerfull it is if it has not done much to madara after multiple hits ?

You aren't seriously comparing Madara roided out on Sage Mode, Hashirama cells, and the freakin Juubi (the "progenitor of all things") to Tsunade, of all people, are you? You're comparing the durability of the strongest character in the manga to Tsunade, a low-end Kage?

 

[WreckRolled]

Oh, I don't know.

Maybe the fact that a single punch created a 200 foot crater?

Even if she isn't vaporized, she will be very, very dead. Evening Elephants damage output is tiers above anything Byakugo has shown in terms of healing. She will die before she can heal.



You aren't seriously comparing Madara roided out on Sage Mode, Hashirama cells, and the freakin Juubi (the "progenitor of all things") to Tsunade, of all people, are you?

how will sage mode help him ? hashirama cells give you lifeforce they don't make you ironman, madara didn't used any of the jincuriki healing power

in narutoverse collision/pressure damage is not effective like in the real world

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in real life her head would splatter against the rocks, her insides would turn into pudding and her body would be torn apart
and yet none of that has happened
give me an example of any collision/pressure type damage that we have seen so far in narutoverse that will affect tsunades body enough for byakugo not to work

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oobama rasengan

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morning peacock

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hirudora

all did nothing that byakugo can't heal

all these "pushing" attacks do waaaay less damage to the people than they do to the enviroment

tsunade>gai

 

[Black Wolf]

how will sage mode help him ? hashirama cells give you lifeforce they don't make you ironman

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Fukasaku outright states Sage Mode to provide a passive durability boost.

madara didn't used any of the jincuriki healing power

I wasn't talk about healing power. I'm talking about flat out durability. 50% KN4 was immune to Orochimaru's Kusanagi blade. This is the Juubi we are talking about - there will be a massive durability boost.

in narutoverse collision/pressure damage is not effective like in the real world

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in real life her head would splatter against the rocks, her insides would turn into pudding and her body would be torn apart
and yet none of that has happened

Real life people don't have the durability or resilience of a standard ninja. The attacks are more dramatic, as are the ninja taking in the damage.

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oobama rasengan

Part I Naruto's half-assed Rasengan blew up Kabuto's innards to the point healing was not an option. Any internal damage done by Odama Rasengan can be assumed to be tiers above that.

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morning peacock

Let's ignore the one that vaporized thousands of sharks and instead use one of its low end feats.

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hirudora

Let's ignore that it was performed underwater, had to travel through a condensed water shark, and was performed without intention to kill. Let's ignore the one that destroyed Madara's V3 Susano'o.

tsunade>gai

In your mind, perhaps. Not in this manga, though.

In this manga, Tsunade was stomped by a far weaker version of Madara despite being backed by a plethora of team mates. In this manga, Tsunade is a forgotten side character that is unlikely to be ever mentioned again on a serious note. She had her moment to shine against Edo Madara, and she got stomped along with the other Kage.

Meanwhile, a tired Gai blows up the same Edo Madara's Susano'o despite him being in a sorry state, and is now pinballing the strongest character in this manga's history. Tsunade being stronger than Gai, whether in feats or manga portrayal, is nothing more than deluded fanfiction. Gai has proven himself to be far more capable than her via feats, and his relevance in the current war puts hers to shame.

 

[WreckRolled]

It will expose her to damage far above what her regeneration is capable of normally coping with.

proof ?


in NV destructive attacks don't do the same damage to people and enviroment

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hirudora and morning peacock didn't do any damage to kisame/fodder that byakugo would not heal yet the damage to the enviroment was ridiculous

considering this and how little damage madara received there is no proof that elephant foot would vaporize tsunade

there are 4 other people that need to be killed 2 of them having possible counters to air cannon, gai can't win

 

[Black Wolf]

The attacks you are listing performed irreparable internal damage to the target. We've seen Part I Naruto shut down Kabuto's healing powers. We've been told it is an attack that deals internal rather than external damage.

Provide proof that Tsunade can survive that much trauma to her internals. Her best feats involve having two Susano'o swords stuck in her stomach. Zabuza had a dozen swords shoved in his gut, and managed to run through an army of people with a kunai in his mouth. Torso stab wounds are not irreparable damage.

The no limits fallacy you have placed on Tsunade's regen has zero basis, when her best feats involve healing far inferior damage.

 

[WreckRolled]

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Fukasaku outright states Sage Mode to provide a passive durability boost.



I wasn't talk about healing power. I'm talking about flat out durability. 50% KN4 was immune to Orochimaru's Kusanagi blade. This is the Juubi we are talking about - there will be a massive durability boost.



Real life people don't have the durability or resilience of a standard ninja. The attacks are more dramatic, as are the ninja taking in the damage.



Part I Naruto's half-assed Rasengan blew up Kabuto's innards to the point healing was not an option. Any internal damage done by Odama Rasengan can be assumed to be tiers above that.



Let's ignore the one that vaporized thousands of sharks and instead use one of its low end feats.



Let's ignore that it was performed underwater, had to travel through a condensed water shark, and was performed without intention to kill. Let's ignore the one that destroyed Madara's V3 Susano'o.



In your mind, perhaps. Not in this manga, though.

In this manga, Tsunade was stomped by a far weaker version of Madara despite being backed by a plethora of team mates. In this manga, Tsunade is a forgotten side character that is unlikely to be ever mentioned again on a serious note. She had her moment to shine against Edo Madara, and she got stomped along with the other Kage.

Meanwhile, a tired Gai blows up the same Edo Madara's Susano'o despite him being in a sorry state, and is now pinballing the strongest character in this manga's history. Tsunade being stronger than Gai, whether in feats or manga portrayal, is nothing more than deluded fanfiction. Gai has proven himself to be far more capable than her via feats, and his relevance in the current war puts hers to shame.

abc logic doesn't work, kabuto did not have byakugo, the sharks are not human, none of gai's attacks and collision/pushing attacks in general did any significant damage to human bodies so far despite the massive environmental damage, it is very reasonable to believe tsunade will survive, your the one who needs to show any proof what so ever and if you keep blatantly ignoring the main point that i made in my previous post and reinforced in this one than i have nothing more to say because by feats tsunade beats gai

 

[Curse Mark]

Black Wolf is dominating, i'm just sitting back and watching the show. I still think he's gotta be an Alt.

 

[Strict]

Some of you are mad. Susanoo's punch completely destroys a human's body when battering him into the ground, Guy's Evening Elephant leaves a crater with a depth of about 100 meters when he batters the target into the ground.

 

[WreckRolled]

The attacks you are listing performed irreparable internal damage to the target. We've seen Part I Naruto shut down Kabuto's healing powers. We've been told it is an attack that deals internal rather than external damage.

Provide proof that Tsunade can survive that much trauma to her internals. Her best feats involve having two Susano'o swords stuck in her stomach. Zabuza had a dozen swords shoved in his gut, and managed to run through an army of people with a kunai in his mouth. Torso stab wounds are not irreparable damage.

The no limits fallacy you have placed on Tsunade's regen has zero basis, when her best feats involve healing far inferior damage.

you are right about rasengan even if kabuto didn't have byakugo so it's still debatable but gai's attack don't have rasengan's properties and i still see no proof of what can gai do to tsunade

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healed all these wound including the cut through her lung in a second or so, internal organs heal no problem

so far tsunade with byakubo has tanked efortessly anything that doesn't cut her in half, gai has not shown anything able to do that and everything points out that elephant foot should not either

give me proof or gtfo couse i gave you plenty of it

 

[Strict]

Tsunade certainly won't tank the Evening Elephant.

 

[WreckRolled]

Tsunade certainly won't tank the Evening Elephant.

counter all my points first and give proof

 

[Black Wolf]

Madara has Sage Mode durability, Juubi durability and Jinchuuriki regeneration, and Hashirama's regeneration capabilities (given he essentially has a Sage Mode Hashirama fused to his chest, and has utilized the regeneration in prior chapters). Tsunade, at best, has Hashirama-level regeneration, without the added durability and regen of being the Juubi host and having Sage Mode.

What makes you think she can survive when Madara himself was taking active attempts at blocking Gai's strikes? She lacks Madara's uber level durability.

abc logic doesn't work, kabuto did not have byakugo

But he did have a healing technique. Rasengan attacks the innards.

the sharks are not human

They have flesh and bone just like humans do.

none of gai's attacks and collision/pushing attacks in general did any significant damage to human bodies so far despite the massive environmental damage

Morning Peacock isn't a pushing attack. It likely destroys all the inner organs of the target, if not outright vaporize the target as it did the sharks.

because by feats tsunade beats gai

By feats, Gai dominated a Madara eons stronger than the Edo Madara that stomped the piss out of the five Kage, Tsunade included.

 

[Strict]

counter all my points first and give proof

I don't have to, always debating the obvious things. Kakashi's statement is canon and something Kishimoto purposely put in the spotlight. Gai fucking dominated against Rikudo Madara. After he blitzed him the first time, latter had to be aware of what Gai is capable of, Gai at maximum speed dealt several blows at him, Madara couldn't move and received significant damage. Rikudo Madara himself admitted that receiving several of these blows would be bad for him..

How people can even deny that Rikudo Madara is by all means dimensions above average Shinobi, the durability included?

 

[Black Wolf]

you are right about rasengan even if kabuto didn't have byakugo so it's still debatable but gai's attack don't have rasengan's properties and i still see no proof of what can gai do to tsunade

You've got to be kidding me.

Morning Peacock takes a shit on Part I Naruto's Rasengan on so many levels. Hirudora is on a completely other level, easily destroying Susano'o - and Gai wasn't even in gated form when he used it.

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healed all these wound including the cut through her lung in a second or so, internal organs heal no problem

So surviving sword lacerations that look a tad above skin deep is a huge feat, in your opinion?

I guess Kakashi has Byakugo too. I mean, Obito was slashing his chest up with shuriken left and right, afterall, and he proceeded to continue fighting.

It's hilarious you bring this up - this is probably her lowest-end healing feat. Her Susano'o sword healing feat is far superior to this.

so far tsunade with byakubo has tanked efortessly anything that doesn't cut her in half, gai has not shown anything able to do that and everything points out that elephant foot should not either

Lee kicked through Madara in half without gates, and just a Kyuubi shroud. Pretty sure a gated Gai is stronger than shrouded Lee. His base strength is stronger, and any strength boost by upper gates trumps a basic shroud.

give me proof or gtfo couse i gave you plenty of it

Giving low-end healing feats isn't proof that she can survive any gated attacks.

 

[WreckRolled]

i will continue this tomorrow, got to go now

 

[Strict]

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Tell me again that Tsunade survives the Evening Elephant. Total madness. Kishimoto showed how Rikudo Madara's horn cracked, hinting how durable Madara actually is. It's impossible for a human to survive this. That's for sure.

 

[paratise]

Are people really trying to solo Gai with Tsunade?

Much wow.

 

[Curse Mark]

Are people really trying to solo Gai with Tsunade?

Much wow.

so regen!






fuc kin 10char

 

[FemmeFatale]

Tsunade practically survived it right here

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[swirlyshark]

I believe five kages extreme diff even with 8 gates gai can only last so long and how many times can he actual use evening elephant