Gaaras sand>Susano'o (Physical attacks; shots fired at Sakura/Tsunade Fans)

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The capability of Sand shield and a manga example of thickening sand:
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Of course a thin layer of sand couldn't cut it and of course he needed more sand to block the Explosion and this is why this particular defence is more durable against blasts and Physical attacks.

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It can tank C3 which is a village buster sooo...

Gaara only had access to sand in superabundance because:

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It is no different to combating a Suiton user near an endless water source. Gaara doesn't carry the above quantity of sand within his gourd and if he requires more he would have to fuel his chakra into cultivating more from the terrain, if it is a capable terrain. To use this as an example of Gaara's defenses and to contrast it to the various evolution's of Susano'o and their respective level's of defense is erroneous. The title is a false claim.
 
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Its shielding the user so tis the same thing in this scenario :yeah: but wheres the scan please; i dont disbelieve you i just dont remember. and i know that but not as fluently as sand clearly as we could see what damage was done after the attack. IT takes up more chakra to replenish as well. Your talking about when gaara was in Part 1 it has recenlty shown to take a much greater deal of damage.

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Sasuke's susanoo arm was teared in half. Now look at this panel:
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He regenerated that hole back.
 

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Gaara only had access to sand in superabundance because:

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It is no different to combating a Suiton user near an endless water source. Gaara doesn't carry the above quantity of sand within his gourd and if he requires more he would have to fuel his chakra into cultivating more from the terrain, if it is a capable terrain. To use this as an example of Gaara's defenses and to contrast it to the various evolution's of Susano'o and their respective level's of defense is erroneous. The title is a false claim.

In the comments i had established he needs an abundance of sand but the principle is its possible to block almost any attack with sand. The title isn't a false claim because he's shown he is capable of blocking Village buster attack, yes i know he was in the desert and had the sufficient amount of sand to do so. I never once specified the amount of Gaara had i just said the sand is capable of being superior to susano'o due to its properties. Sand absorbs shockwaves fairly well. Susano' being a brick and super condensed sand brick being gaaras defense. Susano'o is going to feel the brunt of the attack more than the sand brick. I can use the same example with clones. a shadow clone once reaching its damage limit dissapears but a sand clone can take damage and regenerate. Thats my point. Susano'o is more efficient don't get me wrong but again im just proving that Sand has the potential to out-rank susano'o if the abundance is available.
 

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Gaara sand was only able to block c3 because he was in the sand village.

His sand was large enough to cover the whole village and then some
 

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Sasuke's susanoo arm was teared in half. Now look at this panel:
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He regenerated that hole back.

im not disputing the fact that it cant regen but it takes up more chakra to do so and in regards to what regenerates faster the sand wins

Gaara sand was only able to block c3 because he was in the sand village.

His sand was large enough to cover the whole village and then some

I forgot to add that in but the principle is that sand has the potential to block that calibur of jutsu
 

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The title: Gaaras sand>Susano'o is false.

Gaara's sand is the limited abundance of sand he wields within the Gourd. Tanking C3 or your wording a 'village busting attack' was entirely subjective to location; which only adheres to the fact that Gaara could have only done so in an advantageous terrain. As regards properties, it is easier to penetrate a sand brick due to the fact that there still lies space between the rock molecules which constitutes the sand. This is why the Mizukage's oil was a perfect counter for Gaara's sand.

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Meaning something such as lava would employ a similar effect. However, it didn't even phase Susanoo's composition:

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The title: Gaaras sand>Susano'o is false.

Gaara's sand is the limited abundance of sand he wields within the Gourd. Tanking C3 or your wording a 'village busting attack' was entirely subjective to location; which only adheres to the fact that Gaara could have only done so in an advantageous terrain. As regards properties, it is easier to penetrate a sand brick due to the fact that there still lies space between the rock molecules which constitutes the sand. This is why the Mizukage's oil was a perfect counter for Gaara's sand.

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Meaning something such as lava would employ a similar effect. However, it didn't even phase Susanoo's composition:

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Looks like Waltz ended it
 

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Looks like Waltz ended it

How?? i ain't finished.

@Waltz: I have to go anyway but to round off a few edges though, Both defenses have a weakness as we have seen. Susano'os is White rage and Gaaras is oil (without the user functioning properly susano'o can not function so its a type of weakness, susnao'o is chakra and doesn't have a element nor does it contain an element e.g. sand having earth in it). I specifically said the principle is that sand has the potential to tank moves, If gaara isn't controlling the sand then its just sand. Saying its Gaaras sand merely means when he's controlled it. I should have worded it more clearer.
 
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Sand Coffin, Sand Burial, Sand Tsunami >>> Tsunade + Sakura

Gaara can make a soft sand shield and then just crush their fists, but then what if they release the chakra from their hands into a mini... explosion? Idk how their focused chakra thing works exactly. But still, Gaara has the advantage due to sand production, proficiency and range. Spam Sand Shower ;) loljk

But seriously, it can potentially leave Sakura or Tsunade in the condition Lee was in after fighting Gaara in Part I Chunin Exams. Just saying lol
 

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Sand Coffin, Sand Burial, Sand Tsunami >>> Tsunade + Sakura

Gaara can make a soft sand shield and then just crush their fists, but then what if they release the chakra from their hands into a mini... explosion? Idk how their focused chakra thing works exactly. But still, Gaara has the advantage due to sand production, proficiency and range. Spam Sand Shower ;) loljk

But seriously, it can potentially leave Sakura or Tsunade in the condition Lee was in after fighting Gaara in Part I Chunin Exams. Just saying lol

I agree, it will cripple them brutally
 

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How?? i ain't finished.

@Waltz: I have to go anyway but to round off a few edges though, Both defenses have a weakness as we have seen. Susano'os is White rage and Gaaras is oil (without the user functioning properly susano'o can not function so its a type of weakness, susnao'o is chakra and doesn't have a element nor does it contain an element e.g. sand having earth in it). I specifically said the principle is that sand has the potential to tank moves, If gaara isn't controlling the sand then its just sand. Saying its Gaaras sand merely means when he's controlled it. I should have worded it more clearer.

Um.... White rage? Whats that? Sorry just curious xD
 

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...Nice try..

Senpō Hakugeki didn't affect The Susano'o in any notable way but the user, thought this was readily understood after Itachi protected Sasuke through the jutsu with Susano'o. The Mizukage's oil on the other hand affected Gaara's sand directly. The potential you are referring to are clouded with subjectivity. Simply:

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There's nothing else of interest here.
 
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When the sand is in a harden state it becomes vulnerable to there attacks, so Gaara would have to constantly have the sand soft in order to fight them. While soft they can dodge the sand, Punch the ground causing a shockwave, use explosive tags to escape,ect. The sheild, there fist is getting through, if chidori get they can get through with a their fist.
 

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...Nice try..

White rage didn't affect The Susano'o in any notable way but the user, thought this was readily understood. The Mizukage's oil on the other hand affected Gaara's sand directly. The potential you are referring to are clouded with subjectivity. Simply:

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Thank you but i did once AGAIN specify that in affecting the user it disables susano'o . Since its plain chakra it has no elemental weakness unlike Gaaras sand; either way its a weakness. Like i said to someone earlier on in the thread, Susano'o is more efficient since its much more smaller and can tank something which would take a whole heap of sand to tank. In a nutshell im saying sand has the potential to tank as much as if not more than susano'o but a shiz ton of sand is required to do so so its less efficient than susano'o . (Thought i would stay a little longer to see your reply but im actually going now, reply and ill comment tomorrow. Peace)

When the sand is in a harden state it becomes vulnerable to there attacks, so Gaara would have to constantly have the sand soft in order to fight them. While soft they can dodge the sand, Punch the ground causing a shockwave, use explosive tags to escape,ect. The sheild, there fist is getting through, if chidori get they can get through with a their fist.

Chidori (Raiton) is an elemental advantage to sand since sand is made of earth and fossils. Shockwaves are uselsss against sand ebcause sand is of that material where its a good absorber of impact based attacks. Nice try.
 
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What's the point of this thread? Lol Both Sasuke, Tsunade and Sakura all beat Gaara with no difficulty Lol

Gaara is top 30. :whip:

what is this garbage ? Gaara Godstomps both tsunade and sakura while drinking tea under his umbrella.
 

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Did the title say Gaaras sand> Multiple Mokuton complete susano'o clones??? and furthermore he blocked the swords at close range. If your tryign to say his sand is inferior then your clearly wrong. If your saying the sand is stronger then i apoligize. your giving mixed messages
 
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Susanoo seems to be more akin to a sheet of metal or a substance without tensile plasticity because it shatters. Since sand has the capacity to diffuse the impact through all the sand grains it should technically cope better with an impact type attack such as tsunades punch.
 

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This.......
As you can see gaara was able to block Sasunno sword with relative ease. Then multiple Sasunno swords where add, and the sand did do it's job (it protected gaara and stopped the sword from percing through). Now yes the sand did fall after, but then again, what defense wouldnt (hell I defiantly can't see Sasunno tanking five Sasunno swords).
The thing there are always hater/die hard fans...... People fail to realize how powerful Gaara's sand is, not only is it powerful, reliable, durable, but it is also automatic and doesn't take much chakra (depending on the amount and usage). The sand that gaara uses is infused with his chakra that makes it even more powrful that regular sand that he picks up from the surrounding area. It has already been shown that the Sand can tank heavy and destructive forces, just like the images above, it stopped Sasunno from slashing/perching through the sand ( five of them ).
If someone was to punch through the sand such as tsunade, it would create hole with in the sand (or breach the wall) however the sand would crush the arm and or grab it to give an opening. That sand is also not like Sasunno, the sand is not generalized in one specific area (such as the Sasunno) the sand can deployed all over the battle feild at any range with mulipule and powerful blows/wave/shield etc.

The sand is stronger then Sassuno....... You are naive if you think other wise.
 
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