Gaaras sand>Susano'o (Physical attacks; shots fired at Sakura/Tsunade Fans)

[TheTailedSage]

Just read your post. U_U Your saying that even if Tsunade and Sakura manage to crack Gaara's sand he could just add more?

I doubt Tsunade and Sakura even have the strength to make sand "crack". Their fists would either go through it or be stopped by it. I take back my previous statement. Gaara solos Tsunade and Sakura U_U

Hypothetically if it did the crack would be replenished. Regardles of reading this thread you should have known that Gaara destroys lool Sand Funeral or Tsunami solos

 

[Xēnovia.]

Anytime! Thanks for the rep

 

[Bronze]

The only thing i disagree at is its not more durable than susanoo.

 

[Joshutsu]

Tsunade and co's punches are more explosive, in theory they could scatter said sand upon impact. Based on how their CES reacts to other things such as the ground etc.

Doesn't matter if they can or can't, Gaara still beats them.

 

[TheTailedSage]

The only thing i disagree at is its not more durable than susanoo.

IF its thick enough i dont see whats stopping it from being as durable if not more durable than susnao'o. If gaara is in the desert its possible to use as much sand as he did against C3 as a defence as tough and dense as PS . If Danzos broke through susano'o but because of the properties of sand he couldn't do this to sand. Of course Gaara would need an abundance of sand to have a more tougher defence. The more sand he has the better the shield.

Anytime! Thanks for the rep

Its coom man

Tsunade and co's punches are more explosive, in theory they could scatter said sand upon impact. Based on how their CES reacts to other things such as the ground etc.

Doesn't matter if they can or can't, Gaara still beats them.

More explosive than a Village buster attack?? i don't think so. The C3 should have scattered the sand but it didnt due to the density. Agreed that Gaara beats them

 

[Vicen]

Hypothetically if it did the crack would be replenished. Regardles of reading this thread you should have known that Gaara destroys lool Sand Funeral or Tsunami solos

I felt like trolling. U_U

 

[TheTailedSage]

I felt like trolling. U_U

Your troll was very convincing, unless your trying to cover up your flop

 

[Vegeto30294]

I agree with everything except the durability part.

What makes sand so useful is that it absorbs most of the impact, making the force of the attack hit near zero.

With piercing, there is a much lower amount of surface area and much higher cutting power.

Like you said, in order to stop a swords from hitting stand is that you have to actually stop the velocity of the sword.

Basically, Go punch a sand dune and go punch sand stone and see which one you have an easier time breaking

 

[Bronze]

IF its thick enough i dont see whats stopping it from being as durable if not more durable than susnao'o. If gaara is in the desert its possible to use as much sand as he did against C3 as a defence as tough and dense as PS . If Danzos broke through susano'o but because of the properties of sand he couldn't do this to sand. Of course Gaara would need an abundance of sand to have a more tougher defence. The more sand he has the better the shield.

Perfect susanoo's defence capabilities are far greater than what Gaara's sand could ever accomplish. Its not even close to V3.

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It tanked 12 TBB with PS blades + Shinsuusenju 1000 mountain size arms. And guess what, only half of PS cloak was removed:

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Gaara's sand best feat is C3 which doesn't come close to the feats of PS defences.

 

[Ahmed1993]

If Danzos broke through susano'o

He combined his Futon power with the Futon of a Summon to make a hole in V3 MS Susanoo.

 

[TheTailedSage]

I agree with everything except the durability part.

What makes sand so useful is that it absorbs most of the impact, making the force of the attack hit near zero.

With piercing, there is a much lower amount of surface area and much higher cutting power.

Like you said, in order to stop a swords from hitting stand is that you have to actually stop the velocity of the sword.

Basically, Go punch a sand dune and go punch sand stone and see which one you have an easier time breaking

Sand is that material that it absorbs damage because its soft and can become more dense. Have you ever punched sand? by punching it the sand absorbs the impact because of its unique material. Exactly, the velocity has to be reduced to a halt. Sand dune has sand in abundance and thus can block attacks with a higher Shockwave/ crushing factor. The hypothesis of this would be the more sand you have the stronger the attack you can block. It seemed like you begun to answer your own question towards the end of your comment lol but your correct

 

[TheTailedSage]

He combined his Futon power with the Futon of a Summon to make a hole in V3 MS Susanoo.

I know but my point is he was able to break through it. Sand can replenish itself on the spot where as susano'o can not do that straight away, it require a lot of chakra to do so. Sand is more free flowing and it can ajust its density where as susano'o cant so it doesn't have that flexibility

 

[Ahmed1993]

Perfect susanoo's defence capabilities are far greater than what Gaara's sand could ever accomplish. Its not even close to V3.

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It tanked 12 TBB with PS blades + Shinsuusenju 1000 mountain size arms. And guess what, only half of PS cloak was removed:

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Gaara's sand best feat is C3 which doesn't come close to the feats of PS defences.

The first one is Final Susanoo not PS U_U

 

[Bronze]

The first one is Final Susanoo not PS U_U

My badLol.

 

[Ahmed1993]

I know but my point is he was able to break through it. Sand can replenish itself on the spot where as susano'o can not do that straight away, it require a lot of chakra to do so. Sand is more free flowing and it can ajust its density where as susano'o cant so it doesn't have that flexibility

As i said in our discussion , the sand have the potential to be a really good defense , but anything past V3 Susanoo would need colossal amounts of Sand and chakra to match Final Susanoo and PS.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Perfect susanoo's defence capabilities are far greater than what Gaara's sand could ever accomplish. Its not even close to V3.

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It tanked 12 TBB with PS blades + Shinsuusenju 1000 mountain size arms. And guess what, only half of PS cloak was removed:

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Gaara's sand best feat is C3 which doesn't come close to the feats of PS defences.

Gaara had the whole deserts sand at his disposal, he could have used more sand if he wanted to but the sand he used to block it was all he needed. My point is that sand replenishes the moment its been hit where as susano'o cant do that so PS was removed but that wouldn't happen to sand and more to the point the sand cant afford to be broken. If you try and push sand apart by putting two hands together and then moving them apart, the hole will be filled with more sand, that's how the sand would function on attacks. It technically cant be destroyed but can be temporarily breached. and first scan in Complete susano'o not PS

Im not going to say he can block 12 TBB (where did it show PS blocking 12 TBB anyway??) but based on what we have seen already Gaara is capable of blocking a fair amount of damage WITH the right amount of sand and the correct density

As i said in our discussion , the sand have the potential to be a really good defense , but anything past V3 Susanoo would need colossal amounts of Sand and chakra to match Final Susanoo and PS.

I agree

 

[Bronze]

Gaara had the whole deserts sand at his disposal, he could have used more sand if he wanted to but the sand he used to block it was all he needed. My point is that sand replenishes the moment its been hit where as susano'o cant do that so PS was removed but that wouldn't happen to sand and more to the point the sand cant afford to be broken. If you try and push sand apart by putting two hands together and then moving them apart, the hole will be filled with more sand, that's how the sand would function on attacks. It technically cant be destroyed but can be temporarily breached. and first scan in Complete susano'o not PS

Im not going to say he can block 12 TBB (where did it show PS blocking 12 TBB anyway??) but based on what we have seen already Gaara is capable of blocking a fair amount of damage WITH the right amount of sand and the correct density

Susanoo is made from chakra you know. Any user of susanoo can also use their chakra and recreate susanoo again just like Gaara's sand. Gaara's sand couldn't even tank a running from Kimmimaro yet V3 susanoo tanked a punch from Tsunade.

Never said it blocked. It tanked it.

 

[Ahmed1993]

Gaara had the whole deserts sand at his disposal, he could have used more sand if he wanted to but the sand he used to block it was all he needed. My point is that sand replenishes the moment its been hit where as susano'o cant do that so PS was removed but that wouldn't happen to sand and more to the point the sand cant afford to be broken. If you try and push sand apart by putting two hands together and then moving them apart, the hole will be filled with more sand, that's how the sand would function on attacks. It technically cant be destroyed but can be temporarily breached. and first scan in Complete susano'o not PS

Im not going to say he can block 12 TBB (where did it show PS blocking 12 TBB anyway??) but based on what we have seen already Gaara is capable of blocking a fair amount of damage WITH the right amount of sand and the correct density



I agree

PS Susanoo Kyuubi was right next to Shinsusenjuu when the 12 Bijuu Dama with PS sword exploded.


Edit : I have to go to bed now , good night :gn:

 

[TheTailedSage]

Susanoo is made from chakra you know. Any user of susanoo can also use their chakra and recreate susanoo again just like Gaara's sand. Gaara's sand couldn't even tank a running from Kimmimaro yet V3 susanoo tanked a punch from Tsunade.

Never said it blocked. It tanked it.

Its shielding the user so tis the same thing in this scenario :yeah: but wheres the scan please; i dont disbelieve you i just dont remember. and i know that but not as fluently as sand clearly as we could see what damage was done after the attack. IT takes up more chakra to replenish as well. Your talking about when gaara was in Part 1 it has recenlty shown to take a much greater deal of damage.

 

[TheTailedSage]

PS Susanoo Kyuubi was right next to Shinsusenjuu when the 12 Bijuu Dama with PS sword exploded.


Edit : I have to go to bed now , good night :gn:

PS is more suitable for defending as it require little abundance as wouldn't need as much chakra to build i know.Goodnight