Gaara VS Sasuke Taka

[lswhyte123]

Same thread as before but with a slightly upgraded Sasuke.

Gaara: War Arc
Sasuke: Danzo Fight

everything else is the same.

I realise I said Sasuke Taka 1st. Sorry, that's my error.

 

[Pradhan Tuna]

I like Gaara fight. He seems to be cool and unfazed. Sasuke on other hand shows anger and hate in fight.

 

[Owarij]

Sasuke easily...
Why?
Paralyzed permanently from tsukyomi........

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"Your eyes are still the same"

He clearly likes looking at sasukes pretty red eyes,

He'll end up like killer bee, with spikes sent through every part of his body

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Unable to move and control his sand

 

[lswhyte123]

Sasuke easily...
Why?
Paralyzed permanently from tsukyomi........

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"Your eyes are still the same"

He clearly likes looking at sasukes pretty red eyes,

He'll end up like killer bee, with spikes sent through every part of his body

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Unable to move and control his sand

I answered this in my other post. Sasuke hasn't yet shown his Tsukuyomi.

 

[joodaa]

i say it depends if gaara is silly enough to look in sasukes eyes, because theres not other way for sasuke to use genjutsu which would be gaaras main weekness

 

[lswhyte123]

I like Gaara too. But I am shocked he has 3 votes to 0...WOW

I think it could go either way. Gaara is good at wearing down his opponents and stayin alive. Sasuke does have a tendancy to wear himself down. For that reason, I give it to Gaara. Sasuke could of course win though.

 

[lswhyte123]

i say it depends if gaara is silly enough to look in sasukes eyes, because theres not other way for sasuke to use genjutsu which would be gaaras main weekness

Like this post buddy good on ya.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Sasuke easily...
Why?
Paralyzed permanently from tsukyomi........

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"Your eyes are still the same"

He clearly likes looking at sasukes pretty red eyes,

He'll end up like killer bee, with spikes sent through every part of his body

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Unable to move and control his sand

thats not what he meant. remember before, gaara said that he judges people by "eyes", or what they see. basically, he doesnt mean it literally, hes seeing all sasuke can see is hate and darkness

 

[Owarij]

I answered this in my other post. Sasuke hasn't yet shown his Tsukuyomi.

what are you talking about... that was tsukyomi he used on bee -_- , i showed a scan..... Not only that he also used tsukyomi on danzo

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thats not what he meant. remember before, gaara said that he judges people by "eyes", or what they see. basically, he doesnt mean it literally, hes seeing all sasuke can see is hate and darkness

No my friend, you are mistaken....he is literally looking at sasuke's eyes , and seeing the hate inside them... and comparing it to himself/pastself...he told sasuke the same in part 1, and there was a closeup of their eyes -_-

 

[lswhyte123]

To Rikerslade and Owarjid: Neither of those were Tsukuyomi. They were just Genjutsu's. I have the official book and that translation is slightly different.

Danzo says: " I give you credit for placing me under Genjutsu. But It's a far cry from Itachi's Tsukuyomi in which he freely manipulates time within the dreamscape."

Sorry I can't paste my book guys. But I do admit that it is possible that it could have been very weak versions of Tsukuyomi. Also, Gaara is aware of Sasuke's Genjutsu skills. The fact that he looks into his eyes, in my opinion, is reason to believe Gaara is not afraid of Sasuke's Genjutsu.
That being said you both have a strong point and may be correct. Neither is clear atm.

 

[opticsnm]

when they were young garra would win but older sasuke would defeat garra

 

[Owarij]

To Rikerslade and Owarjid: Neither of those were Tsukuyomi. They were just Genjutsu's. I have the official book and that translation is slightly different.

Danzo says: " I give you credit for placing me under Genjutsu. But It's a far cry from Itachi's Tsukuyomi in which he freely manipulates time within the dreamscape."

Sorry I can't paste my book guys. But I do admit that it is possible that it could have been very weak versions of Tsukuyomi. Also, Gaara is aware of Sasuke's Genjutsu skills. The fact that he looks into his eyes, in my opinion, is reason to believe Gaara is not afraid of Sasuke's Genjutsu.
That being said you both have a strong point and may be correct. Neither is clear atm.

Dude are you listening to me? it was tsukyomi.. NO GENJUTSU causes after effects to the eye other than mangekyou techs....

BOTH itachi and sasuke held the eye they cast it with after using it

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And why he compare a normal genjutsu to itachi's tsukyomi , why would he compare specifically itachi's tsukyomi and a normal genjutsu... its obvious a normal genjutsu wouldn't ever stand a match up against tsukomi...

in my opinion, is reason to believe Gaara is not afraid of Sasuke's Genjutsu.

And no, thats what you call not being aware of sasukes capabilities... the only people who really doesnt look into sharingan are people who fought uchihas before.. kakashi learned the hard way with itachi, and we see in part 2 he's learned , and avoid contact, and also told naruto and sakura to do so aswell.....unfortunately even if gaara is able to break normal genjutsu and thus is confident in his abilities.. he will NOT be able to break a tsukyomi , no matter how weak.... unless someone from an external source disrupts his chakra flow

 

[lswhyte123]

Dude are you listening to me? it was tsukyomi.. NO GENJUTSU causes after effects to the eye other than mangekyou techs....

BOTH itachi and sasuke held the eye they cast it with after using it

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And why he compare a normal genjutsu to itachi's tsukyomi , why would he compare specifically itachi's tsukyomi and a normal genjutsu... its obvious a normal genjutsu wouldn't ever stand a match up against tsukomi...

I understand you. But both Genjutsu made by the MS and Tsukuyomi have side effects. The Tsukuyomi though is totally diff. It cannot be broken by anyone other than a blood relative of the caster.
Additionally the reason Danzo said that was to wind Sasuke up. He was doing that through the whole fight. Even Tobi notices that Danzo and Sasuke's fight will be won by the one who outlasts the other.
It was in Danzo's interest to make Sasuke angry and use all his Chakra.

I get your point though. I'm just letting you know that you cannot be certain.
Also, could you show me the image where Sasuke holds his eye after casting this Tsukuyomi on Danzo...?

 

[lswhyte123]

There is doubt over whether or not Sasuke can or has used Tsukuyomi. My argument for why he must at least be able is that he can use Susanoo which requires it. It also mentions on Narutopedia that it's in Sasuke's arsenol.

That being said, it would appear Sasuke's other eye controls Amaterasu instead of having an epic Tsukuyomi.
Zetsu mentions that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by someone of Uchiha & also they need to be the same blood as the caster. So only Sasuke could break Itachi's etcetc...So!!!!
How is it, that all those who have been hit by Sasuke's 'Tsukuyomi' have broken free?

 

[The Eye]

wait if bee was able to escape saskue Tsukuyomi you think naruto can escape itachi's? or itachi is too advance

 

[Owarij]

There is doubt over whether or not Sasuke can or has used Tsukuyomi. My argument for why he must at least be able is that he can use Susanoo which requires it. It also mentions on Narutopedia that it's in Sasuke's arsenol.

That being said, it would appear Sasuke's other eye controls Amaterasu instead of having an epic Tsukuyomi.
Zetsu mentions that Tsukuyomi can only be broken by someone of Uchiha & also they need to be the same blood as the caster. So only Sasuke could break Itachi's etcetc...So!!!!
How is it, that all those who have been hit by Sasuke's 'Tsukuyomi' have broken free?

I Don't believe zetsu ever said that ....
Can you link a scan?

 

[lswhyte123]

wait if bee was able to escape saskue Tsukuyomi you think naruto can escape itachi's? or itachi is too advance

No. I am saying that Bee escaped only because it was not a Tsukuyomi but a Genjutsu.

But also, Yes Itachi's Tsukuyomi is much more advanced than anything Sasuke has been able to do ever.

 

[The Eye]

I Don't believe zetsu ever said that ....
Can you link a scan?

no zetsu didnt say it...itachi did if i can recall

 

[The Eye]

No. I am saying that Bee escaped only because it was not a Tsukuyomi but a Genjutsu.

But also, Yes Itachi's Tsukuyomi is much more advanced than anything Sasuke has been able to do ever.

how can you tell the difference im confused honestly lolz

 

[Owarij]

no zetsu didnt say it...itachi did if i can recall

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Well you must read what itachi said again clearly ^^

He said, some resistance can be made through the sharingan, but not enough

HIS tsukyomi cannot be beaten... remember what i said about itachi's tsukyomi lasting 1 second? no one can cancel it... only a uchiha can beat his....
he then says only a uchiha with his blood can defeat him.....

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3 days instantly...

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"Affect you instantly..... There is NO cancellation of it.... "
Danzo clearly also explains the diff between sasukes and tiachis