Gaara vs Pain

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Location: Desert
Conditions: This is the Gaara that fought Deidara
Restrictions: Chibaku Tensei, Gedo Mazou
Intel: Gaara has all the information SM Naruto had in his fight against Pain. Pain knows everything Deidara knows about Gaara.
Intent: Pain has to capture, Gaara has free reign to kill.

Bonus round: Pain is replaced by Nagato and has the intent to kill, but Gaara is a perfect jin with Shukaku.
 
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Pain mid diff.
Nagato mid diff.
 

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With both ct and gedo restricted,and intent to capture making cst impossible,
gaara takes scenario 1

nagato shitsomps scenario 2
 

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With both ct and gedo restricted,and intent to capture making cst impossible,
gaara takes scenario 1

nagato shitsomps scenario 2
 

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Pain wrecks gaara for many reasons..........
 

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Asura laser, basho tein, shinra tensei on every scale and even multiple boss summon. Make this a mid diff fight for pain. Nagato stomp.
 

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Make it War Arc Gaara with Shukaku then you might have a match
 

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How does Pain actually win this though?

Animal Path summons get sealed with sand pyramids. Invisible chamaleon can be detected with sand sensing.
Asura Path missiles simply get blocked by sand, ultimate defense if necessary.
Human path is non-factor
Preta path is non-factor since Madara canonically couldn't absorb Gaara's sand
Naraka path is non-factor pretty much
Deva Path can be sealed or crushed if Gaara takes advantage of the 5 second interval, using the sand under his feet. Gaara's sand is pretty fast.
 

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Pain wins mid diff at best
 

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I am tempted to say that Gaara wins both scenario's considering that Nagato is going to capture Gaara only.

He without a doubt beats Pein because of this. And a perfect Jin. Gaara's a scary thought.
 

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preta path can absorb gaara sand

pain med-high

nagato low diffs
 

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Pein wins this mid diff at most
Nagato wins this comfortably
 

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Both Nagato and Pein defeat Gaara.
 

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Pain low diffs

Asura and the summoning bird can assault, Bansho tennin pulls Gaara toward pain...
 

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Pain low diffs

Asura and the summoning bird can assault, Bansho tennin pulls Gaara toward pain...

How does a big klutzy bird avoid getting sealed/restrained by sand though? Gaara's dealt with Deidara's bombs, I think he could deal with Asura. And bansho tenin would be suicide since the sand will get to Deva before Gaara will.

Everyone is saying Pain low diff, but no one's really providing an argument :|
 

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How does a big klutzy bird avoid getting sealed/restrained by sand though? Gaara's dealt with Deidara's bombs, I think he could deal with Asura. And bansho tenin would be suicide since the sand will get to Deva before Gaara will.

Everyone is saying Pain low diff, but no one's really providing an argument :|


How is he dealing with a large bird, and multiple missiles from below at the same time? His only option is to use that sand sphere he did in the Chuunin exams, which is futile because he's a sitting duck for Asura.

Already said Pain just uses Bansho Tennin to pull him out of flight, I really don't see how Gaara counters, not only that but has to deal with more Missile barrage from Asura at the same time if need be.
 

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How is he dealing with a large bird, and multiple missiles from below at the same time? His only option is to use that sand sphere he did in the Chuunin exams, which is futile because he's a sitting duck for Asura.

Already said Pain just uses Bansho Tennin to pull him out of flight, I really don't see how Gaara counters, not only that but has to deal with more Missile barrage from Asura at the same time if need be.

Gaara's ultimate defense tanked a point blank C2 bird from Deidara , so Asura's not going to pose a problem. Not to mention his regular sand tanked a village buster C3.

Bird gets dealt with through massive sand tsunamis.

If Deva uses Bansho Tenin, he gets a face full of sand since Gaara will barrage him with sand bullets or sand shuriken while he's getting pulled toward Deva, and Deva won't be able to deflect them due to the 5 second rule.
 

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How does Pain actually win this though?

Animal Path summons get sealed with sand pyramids. Invisible chamaleon can be detected with sand sensing.
Asura Path missiles simply get blocked by sand, ultimate defense if necessary.
Human path is non-factor
Preta path is non-factor since Madara canonically couldn't absorb Gaara's sand
Naraka path is non-factor pretty much
Deva Path can be sealed or crushed if Gaara takes advantage of the 5 second interval, using the sand under his feet. Gaara's sand is pretty fast.

This. Discussing is underrated sometimes...
 
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