Gaara vs Minato and Itachi.

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It may be plausible that Sasuke used Genjutsu on the oversized Deidara. It was the only thing in which the eyes were more prone to make contact with someone.

Even though I disagree, wouldn't contradict your claims that Genjutsu wouldn't work on the Third Eye
 

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I believe that genjutsu is categorized as close-range due to close range being the most effective for it to work. Doesn't necessarily mean that genjutsu cannot be used outside this range. I know sasuke did it and didn't shikamarus dad say something about itachi having the ability to pretty much genjutsu snipe outside the range of sensors?
 

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I'd say Gaara wins if it wasn't for Gamabunta. Minato would summon it and have it use Toad Oil Bullet, weakening Gaara's sand. Minato could kill himself with Shiki Fujin, and since Itachi would be alive that would mean their team wins. Itachi's finger genjutsu could trap Gaara as well. Those are the only three things the have on Gaara though.

Outside of that, Gaara wins. Gaara's chakra infused sand is fast enough to block Minato's shunshin blitz since it was fast enough to stop Ay, who has a superior shunshin. Gaara is the perfect counter to Minato's Hiraishin, as his ability to alter the terrain will disrupt the placement of Minato's FTG kunai, meaning Minato can never warp where he wants to. Minato can only warp what he or his chakra touches, and I don't see how he's going to touch an entire desert or connect his chakra to it without some medium. Minato also lacks the power outside of Gamabunta to even touch Gaara.

Gaara's sand can block line of sight with Itachi, which would prevent Amaterasu from tagging him and stop him from falling to Tsukuyomi. Sand sensing also means he doesn't even need to look in Itachi's direction. Flying on his chakra infused sand, which is incredibly fast, would allow him to evade Totsuka and Yasaka Magatama. Gaara could easily sink him beneath the desert. The only thing Itachi would have going for him is his finger genjutsu that Gaara cannot stop and has no feats of breaking a genjutsu of that level.
 

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OP is on that good kush and alcohol.
 

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That's prep..

Having prior seals/kunai during a battle = having prep before hand.

is sasori not allowed to dip all his weapons in poison before going into a battle?
is sasori not allowed to make poison for his weapons before going into a battle?
is nagato not allowed to put chakra receivers inside corpses before going to a battle?
is nagato not allowed to have summons ready to be summoned before going to a battle?
is obito not allowed to store weapons in kamui dimension before going to a battle?

minato used a seal without having a warning about tobi's invasion, he didnt need any prep before going to fight kyuubi and tobi

next you may say that minato is not allowed put his cloak before going to fight or he is not allowed to put seals on his kunais
 
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Minato neg diff soloes U_U

Itachi soloes Med/High Diff U_U
 

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poor Gara :( ..................... they will rip him apart.
 

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I'd say Gaara wins if it wasn't for Gamabunta. Minato would summon it and have it use Toad Oil Bullet, weakening Gaara's sand. Minato could kill himself with Shiki Fujin, and since Itachi would be alive that would mean their team wins. Itachi's finger genjutsu could trap Gaara as well. Those are the only three things the have on Gaara though.

Outside of that, Gaara wins. Gaara's chakra infused sand is fast enough to block Minato's shunshin blitz since it was fast enough to stop Ay, who has a superior shunshin. Gaara is the perfect counter to Minato's Hiraishin, as his ability to alter the terrain will disrupt the placement of Minato's FTG kunai, meaning Minato can never warp where he wants to. Minato can only warp what he or his chakra touches, and I don't see how he's going to touch an entire desert or connect his chakra to it without some medium. Minato also lacks the power outside of Gamabunta to even touch Gaara.

Gaara's sand can block line of sight with Itachi, which would prevent Amaterasu from tagging him and stop him from falling to Tsukuyomi. Sand sensing also means he doesn't even need to look in Itachi's direction. Flying on his chakra infused sand, which is incredibly fast, would allow him to evade Totsuka and Yasaka Magatama. Gaara could easily sink him beneath the desert. The only thing Itachi would have going for him is his finger genjutsu that Gaara cannot stop and has no feats of breaking a genjutsu of that level.

Summons are restricted. Garra never stopped one of ay's blitzes. Guillotine drop is gravity based. Even with that considered the most impressive body flicker comes from minato when he went from 1 side of the village to the other and then proceeded to exit the village to use food cart destroyer and save the 3rd from a tbb.
 

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It may be plausible that Sasuke used Genjutsu on the oversized Deidara. It was the only thing in which the eyes were more prone to make contact with someone.

lmao what a stupid excuse. So, you can use genjutsu on clones now and make it link back to the original? Lol EJBlack just derailed your Wall of Text in two lines. Gaara can't stay far enough to not get hit by genjutsu.

This is a sad thread. People are honestly arguing gaara takes on 2 S-Class shinobi at once. Oh NB... y u so funny.
 

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Like he low diffed Deidara, a much weaker character then Itachi?

This time he doesn't have to defed a whole village from massive explosions.

I can see Gaara winning this one, actually.
 

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lmao what a stupid excuse. So, you can use genjutsu on clones now and make it link back to the original? Lol EJBlack just derailed your Wall of Text in two lines. Gaara can't stay far enough to not get hit by genjutsu.

This is a sad thread. People are honestly arguing gaara takes on 2 S-Class shinobi at once. Oh NB... y u so funny.


It's funny because this is actually possible. Remember when Naruto was set under genjutsu by itachi, it was actually a Kage bunshin, the real naruto was after sasuke with Kakashi and sakura [ ] but yet
Itachi was able to put a bunshin under a genjutsu [ ] and give him Shisui's eye. while Itachi was a kage bunshin himself [ ]​
 

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It's funny because this is actually possible. Remember when Naruto was set under genjutsu by itachi, it was actually a Kage bunshin, the real naruto was after sasuke with Kakashi and sakura [ ] but yet
Itachi was able to put a bunshin under a genjutsu [ ] and give him Shisui's eye. while Itachi was a kage bunshin himself [ ]​

Yea, then Naruto got the crow when the bushin expelled.
Now, tell me, how did this disprove my point? At no point there was the original naruto under genjutsu while the bushin was. Therefore, my point still stands. You can't place the original under genjutsu by genjutsu'ing a clone Lol.
 

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Yea, then Naruto got the crow when the bushin expelled.
Now, tell me, how did this disprove my point? At no point there was the original naruto under genjutsu while the bushin was. Therefore, my point still stands. You can't place the original under genjutsu by genjutsu'ing a clone Lol.

My point is that bunshin are connected to the caster since Naruto got the sharingan after the
bunshin expelled.

''you can use genjutsu on clones now and make it link back to the original?''
So youre wrong because it is linked, otherwise naruto wouldn't get the sharingan.

But if you say so what is Gaara holding back to use Daisan no Me for itachi
and focus on Minato, this is sick itachi without susano'o he don't have feats to even pierce through Gaara's sand.
 

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My point is that bunshin are connected to the caster since Naruto got the sharingan after the
bunshin expelled.

''you can use genjutsu on clones now and make it link back to the original?''
So youre wrong because it is linked, otherwise naruto wouldn't get the sharingan.

But if you say so what is Gaara holding back to use Daisan no Me for itachi
and focus on Minato, this is sick itachi without susano'o he don't have feats to even pierce through Gaara's sand.

They are only linked when the bunshin is dispelled/destroyed. Funnily enough, once the bunshin is dispelled, the genjutsu is over and can never link back to the original.
 

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Minato sliced bee's tentacle with just a kunai. I'm sure he can cut off tsunade's arms while she's attacking.
A dismembered tsunade is less a threat.
 

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Jin Gaara may have a chance. Any other Gaara loses.​
 

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As if Shukaku is that powerful to begin with. lol
Gaara in the desert couldn't defeat Mu even with Onoki.
he barely defeat a non-serious Mizukage with the help of Onoki and an army.
he lost against Deidara, and of course against madara with 5 Kages with him.

He does not stand a chance here, Minato can summon Gamapunta (Not as if he need it anyway) and by using the oil, he will make
Gaara completely useless. Gaara's sand couldn't even keep up with the Mizukage's JB. Lol
 

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Incorrect, Genjutsu can't be "prevented" via the use of Sand Shield, and/or Daisan no Me (The Third Eye). However, Genjutsu can be either avoided via LoS (Line of Sight), and/or Keep Range:


Itachi's Utaka (Finger Genjutsu) is also Short-Ranged. Gaara avoiding such tactics as being blitzed via Genjutsu would be no problem at all, due to his versatile aerial fighting-style.


Daisan no Me prevents it they way you explained it. I don't see difference in going long-range combat personally and using a long-range, enhanced vision tool. Measuring that distance analysis you have created, we can assume that the Third Eye has much more distance from the surface than the requirement of distance that Itachi needs/uses. Also, if I remember correct, the vision resembles more of a fish eye.
Fish eye is more of a an inaccurate, tremendously less-powered telescope, which would mean Gaara can still keep them in his sight.

How is my statement incorrect now?​
 
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