Gaara vs Itachi

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He was getting trashed until Gaara had to protect the village. Had the village not been a factor, Gaara would have won easily.
That's just plain incorrect lol.

1. Gaara had a village backing him up, and yet the common argument is that he is the disadvantaged one?

2. Deidara had to capture Gaara, not kill him.

3. Deidara stated that he didn't prepare his best explosive jutsu beforehand.

Deidara > Gaara all the way. He's more diverse, has plain better jutsu, and is smarter.
 
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From what i've seen there arn't. Vs. Section especially.



Joki Boy? Had extra Sand. Jin Gaara with extra sand blocked a City Buster.

Meteors? It was disrupted. Its not like its going to actually destroy the grains of Sand.

Susano'O Swords? They broke through, and even then they arn't all that great.



Gaara's Sand as a Jin had Shukaku like apendages, its definately affected.



Im gonna let someone else take care of this. Its common knowledge and I dont have time to explain it.
the meteors werent disrupted,the 2nd crashedi into the first and they both went tumbling down.

Gaara protected the division with extra sand,to protect himself,he blocked the explosion with his own.

The susanoo swords didnt break through,otherwise he'd be dead,the shield was desroyed,but it still protected him.he wasnt even looking anyway.

The shukaku appendages were just gaara's improved sand control,he made his sand look like onoki too,as well as his mum.

That's just plain incorrect lol.

1. Gaara had a village backing him up, and yet the common argument is that he is the disadvantaged one?

2. Deidara had to capture Gaara, not kill him.

3. Deidara stated that he didn't prepare his best explosive jutsu beforehand.

Deidara > Gaara all the way. He's more diverse, has plain better jutsu, and is smarter.
1) gaara didnt have the village backing him up,he was the one protecting it

2) gaara also had to capture deidara too,he didnt want to kill him

3) what?,deidara told sasori he had prepared it,which is what he used to capture him.

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gaara wins. He dosent need to pull itachi out,he can just use the sand beneayh his feet and crush his feet, 3rd eye and sand sensing renders genjutsu nigh useless. Flight and sand defence +long range fighting style renders susanoo's attacks kinda useless. His stamina as a 13 year ols is much higher than itachi's LOL.
 

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Gaara takes this

The sand acts mostly on its own so Gaara doesn't have to look Itachi in the eyes

Sasunoo< Gaara's sand
Genjutsu< Gaara doesn't need to see Itachi
Amaterasu< Gaara's sand
Taijutsu vs Gaara's sand (i'm not sure)
 

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That's just plain incorrect lol.

1. Gaara had a village backing him up, and yet the common argument is that he is the disadvantaged one?

2. Deidara had to capture Gaara, not kill him.

3. Deidara stated that he didn't prepare his best explosive jutsu beforehand.

Deidara > Gaara all the way. He's more diverse, has plain better jutsu, and is smarter.
1. The Village did squat to help him.

2. All of his attacks were still aimed to kill because he knew Gaara could defend.

3. C3 was his strongest attack, and it was blocked.
 

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1. The Village did squat to help him.

2. All of his attacks were still aimed to kill because he knew Gaara could defend.

3. C3 was his strongest attack, and it was blocked.
c4 is Deidara's strongest attack, and it would rape both Gaara and hs entire village.
 

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c4 is Deidara's strongest attack, and it would rape both Gaara and hs entire village.

He doesn't need to prep that.

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After reading that chapter, Deidara was on the run the entire time and couldn't do anything to Gaara. While Gaara on the other hand was tossing him about. Gaara was easily going to win until the village came into play, thats why Deidara did it.
 

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He doesn't need to prep that.

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After reading that chapter, Deidara was on the run the entire time and couldn't do anything to Gaara. While Gaara on the other hand was tossing him about. Gaara was easily going to win until the village came into play, thats why Deidara did it.
Deidara was attacking a village solo in a desert against someone that can control sand. He still didn't even use c4, which Gaara would have no way of even knowing it would kill him, plus Deidara just plain outsmarted him in the end by putting clay in gourd sand. And what would anybody do against Gaara throwing a desert at them? They'd evade. That doesn't indicate anything since Gaara had an overwhelming advantage in that environment.
 

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Deidara was attacking a village solo in a desert against someone that can control sand. He still didn't even use c4, which Gaara would have no way of even knowing it would kill him, plus Deidara just plain outsmarted him in the end by putting clay in gourd sand. And what would anybody do against Gaara throwing a desert at them? They'd evade. That doesn't indicate anything since Gaara had an overwhelming advantage in that environment.
He was attacking the village by himself until Gaara showed up. After that, he was getting Shut down.

C4 wouldn't have mattered, Gaara's shown intelligence thats on par with Sasuke's. He would have realized something was up. Not only that, Gaara was already airborn meaning he would have been above it.

Without the opening in attacking the village he wouldn't have been able to use that set up.
 

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He was attacking the village by himself until Gaara showed up. After that, he was getting Shut down.

C4 wouldn't have mattered, Gaara's shown intelligence thats on par with Sasuke's. He would have realized something was up. Not only that, Gaara was already airborn meaning he would have been above it.

Without the opening in attacking the village he wouldn't have been able to use that set up.
You realize he was attacking the village to lure Gaara out right?

You realize he owned Gaara don't you?

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Deidara was attacking a village solo in a desert against someone that can control sand. He still didn't even use c4, which Gaara would have no way of even knowing it would kill him, plus Deidara just plain outsmarted him in the end by putting clay in gourd sand. And what would anybody do against Gaara throwing a desert at them? They'd evade. That doesn't indicate anything since Gaara had an overwhelming advantage in that environment.
they didnt fight on the desert,they fought several kilometres above it. Deidara didnt fight him walking on the desert floor thrugh out,if he did he would not last 3 pages. If by outsmart you mean force gaara to choose between himself and his village,then yea he did.

You realize he was attacking the village to lure Gaara out right?

You realize he owned Gaara don't you?

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Deidara was attacking a village solo in a desert against someone that can control sand. He still didn't even use c4, which Gaara would have no way of even knowing it would kill him, plus Deidara just plain outsmarted him in the end by putting clay in gourd sand. And what would anybody do against Gaara throwing a desert at them? They'd evade. That doesn't indicate anything since Gaara had an overwhelming advantage in that environment.
they didnt fight on the desert,they fought several kilometres above it. Deidara didnt fight him walking on the desert floor thrugh out,if he did he would not last 3 pages. If by outsmart you mean force gaara to choose between himself and his village,then yea he did.

You realize he was attacking the village to lure Gaara out right?

You realize he owned Gaara don't you?

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i seem to remeber gaara brushing off anything deidara did until the village came into play. I'd love to see how he would have laid a finger on gaara if there wasnt a village to protect,or if gaara didnt want to capture him
 

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they didnt fight on the desert,they fought several kilometres above it. Deidara didnt fight him walking on the desert floor thrugh out,if he did he would not last 3 pages. If by outsmart you mean force gaara to choose between himself and his village,then yea he did.



i seem to remeber gaara brushing off anything deidara did until the village came into play. I'd love to see how he would have laid a finger on gaara if there wasnt a village to protect,or if gaara didnt want to capture him
He wasn't trying to kill Gaara. He needed him alive. He was trying to force an opening to get some of his explosive inside his sand sheild to just knock him out. If he wanted to kill him he was well capable of a powerful enough explosion. His invisible explosion would be enough to solo the village if he wanted, and kill every man woman and child
 

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Not neccesarily.

Gaara's Sand was much more durable and speedier when he was the Shukaku's container. Also, Itachi's only solid counter to Shukaku is Totsuka no Tsurugi. Even then, He has to be within a close vicinity.

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Gaara's basic ability allows him to turn . Given this was in Part 1, he can convert more sand in Part 2.


Gaara also has the ability to grab hold of him with , then finishing Itachi with .

To counter any of Itachi's Doujutsu, . Using Daisan no Me to keep track of Itachi.

is also a good attack to put Itachi in a rock and a hard place as it would engulf him and Susano'O.

His normal Sand Manipulation was also far Superior while he was a Jinchuriki. is enough to force Itachi into Susano'O.

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All in all, I share his same sentiment. Gaara as a Jinchuriki is superior to Itachi, while his War Arc counterpart is inferior to Itachi.
Yeah...I still Itachi could win this after giving it some more thought.

Getting close to use Totsuka on Shukaku shouldn't be too hard, and Itachi still has Amaterasu, which pretty much is a solid counter to all Full Bijuu forms bar Naruto's, as 1) Big target. 2) Can't evade it. Number 1 also applies with Totsuka's use.

The 3rd eye is still connected to Gaara's optic nerve, so if he brings it out Tsukuyomi is still a viable, and most likely to happen option.

Even if the sand engulfs Susanoo, it should be strong enough to break through it as Kimimaro was able to dig himself from Gaara's sand when they fought during the SRA arc.

Amaterasu is also a viable option at any point of the fight as Gaara can't evade or block it.
 

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Plus Itachi has a big crow summon (like Sasuke's hawk) that could fly him around a bit.

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He wasn't trying to kill Gaara. He needed him alive. He was trying to force an opening to get some of his explosive inside his sand sheild to just knock him out. If he wanted to kill him he was well capable of a powerful enough explosion. His invisible explosion would be enough to solo the village if he wanted, and kill every man woman and child
gaara didnt want to kill him either,which is why he chose to crush his arm rather than his head,and why he chose to use a sand prisn in the air rather than a sand burialwhile deidara was trapped in it.
Invincible bombs are for grounded opponents,gaara is a flying opponent,it wont be of trouble to him.

Plus Itachi has a big crow summon (like Sasuke's hawk) that could fly him around a bit.

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