Gaara vs Itachi

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Compare his feats now with his feats as a Jin. His Jinchuriki feats are far superior, hes always controlling more sand and a faster pace. Its also

Enton is the manipulation of already casted Amaterasu. Look at any feats for Enton and it should be obvious. Not only that, its comonly accepted that its slower (im not trying to give you the run around on this, its just that im short on time at the moment. Replying to KG took up most of my time.)

I dont know where in the world you came up with him being weaker for being a Jinchuriki.



Most sites use the same translation. So when the scanlators mess up, thats usually really bad for us when it comes to something based off a statement.

Though I can't give you any concrete proof without finding the correct one so I wont ask you to believe me based on just word of mouth. Though does it really matter? Gaara's sand should be fast enough to block Enton even without this scan.



Itachi Yasaka arn't Madara's. Plus the fact Gaara's Sand is much more durable when he was a Jin.

Tsukiyomi and Totsuka are both improbable. his fighting style as a Jin was AoE at its best.
what?,blocking 2 c1 bombs dosent equate being more durable!!!,war ac gaara blocked joki boy's explosion,and took 2 meteors,5 susanoo swords and was still standing.

All gaara did at that time,ws his own powr,shukaku had nothing to do with it,gaara himself refused to use shukaku's power. That is all gaara himself. If gaara was using shukaku's power,it would have been a different story.

Feats?


gaara blocks one,then 2 more are shown the next instant. Also i have no idea where it was stated that enton was mich slower,also didnt kakashi say that when a shinobi could combine shape manipulation and nature transformation in a jutsu,the attack power increases by a good scale?.
However,even if enton is slower(if it is),it's not that much slower,as like ama,it is a one panel jutsu
 
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It'd would have been nice to see what MangaFox is like...err, was like.
Imagine.... People like Dr. Proof and Negative Knight would be considered average debaters on there (at least in my day). Thats why I never got why peopled worshiped them on here xD Its also why I sometimes have a superiorty complex about this site and dont bother getting into debates, because Proof, Negative, Waltz, and few others like yourself are the only ones I see as worth my time.
 

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Imagine.... People like Dr. Proof and Negative Knight would be considered average debaters on there (at least in my day). Thats why I never got why peopled worshiped them on here xD Its also why I sometimes have a superiorty complex about this site and dont bother getting into debates, because Proof, Negative, Waltz, and few others like yourself are the only ones I see as worth my time.
Thats a presumption you Shouldnt make my man :/ *just putting my input* there are many and i mean MANY others who are excellent debaters .. you've just named the ones who have the most ... reputation ( not the NB Rep)
 

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Thats a presumption you Shouldnt make my man :/ *just putting my input* there are many and i mean MANY others who are excellent debaters .. you've just named the ones who have the most ... reputation ( not the NB Rep)
From what i've seen there arn't. Vs. Section especially.

what?,blocking 2 c1 bombs dosent equate being more durable!!!,war ac gaara blocked joki boy's explosion,and took 2 meteors,5 susanoo swords and was still standing.
Joki Boy? Had extra Sand. Jin Gaara with extra sand blocked a City Buster.

Meteors? It was disrupted. Its not like its going to actually destroy the grains of Sand.

Susano'O Swords? They broke through, and even then they arn't all that great.

All gaara did at that time,ws his own powr,shukaku had nothing to do with it,gaara himself refused to use shukaku's power. That is all gaara himself. If gaara was using shukaku's power,it would have been a different story.
Gaara's Sand as a Jin had Shukaku like apendages, its definately affected.

Feats?


gaara blocks one,then 2 more are shown the next instant. Also i have no idea where it was stated that enton was mich slower,also didnt kakashi say that when a shinobi could combine shape manipulation and nature transformation in a jutsu,the attack power increases by a good scale?.
However,even if enton is slower(if it is),it's not that much slower,as like ama,it is a one panel jutsu
Im gonna let someone else take care of this. Its common knowledge and I dont have time to explain it.
 
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From what i've seen there arn't. Vs. Section especially.
Maybe i exaggerated on the many But there is .. 6 paths, Owarjji , Rikerslade, Forbidden technique, solo, varrah,Fresco Bunch of others as well .. although some have the same preconception as you that everyone must be an idiot or an exceptional debater U_U Which simply is not true there are plenty of logical people who may not be as good at debating as some others but are logical none the less... And who would be happy to give you a challenge in debating
 

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Maybe i exaggerated on the many But there is .. 6 paths, Owarjji , Rikerslade, Forbidden technique, solo, varrah,Fresco Bunch of others as well .. although some have the same preconception as you that everyone must be an idiot or an exceptional debater U_U Which simply is not true there are plenty of logical people who may not be as good at debating as some others but are logical none the less... And who would be happy to give you a challenge in debating
I'd love to debate, but I don't have internet at the moment. The only reason im on right now is because im filling out work applications at the library.

is it that bad?
On NB? yes. I have high standards for versus forums though, so I might have a hint of bias.
 
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I'd love to debate, but I don't have internet at the moment. The only reason im on right now is because im filling out work applications at the library.



On NB? yes. I have high standards for versus forums though, so I might have a hint of bias.
When you get the chance debate someone logical on the base .. i assure you will not be disappointed
 

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If Gaara's not in a desert (as he was for Madara and Deidara) then he stand absolutely no chance. Itachi is superior to him in every area, and there's nothing stopping him from running up to Gaara and raping him with Susano'o. Unless people on here think gourd sand > Susano'o lol. But Itachi defeating Gaara with genjutsu or Amaterasu is just as likely. And yeah, Itachi beats Shukaku no problem with Amaterasu or Totsuka... or Tsukuyomi-control.
 

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It might be closer than we think ill just say ways Gaara can compete.

Itachi's genjutsu (Tsukoyami)

Not sure but can Gaara's third eye tech counter this technique. He will be looking through his third eye while avoiding direct contact with Itachi's eyes.

Amaterasu
It is a fact that his sand can block amaterasu without getting burned through.

Susano'o
Gaara can avoid yata cuz he can infact pull Itachi out of the Susano'o all together, or use his Ultimate sand funeral seal that he used on madara, the only way madara escaped was through a wood clone.

Mobility
Gaara doesnt move alot but he can travel fast enough on his sand cloud to avoid attacks.

Gaara is capable of winning imo.

Plz dont troll i want an actual debate

Gaara can only pull itachi out of susanoo if Oonoki lightens and enhances the sand. The regular sand that Gaara uses cant pull itachi out. Read the manga people!

Also how can Gaara avoid Yata mirror when it is shapeless and formless that changes at will to block ALL and make ALL attacks lose its meaning. No way gaara can get pass that.

Also when it comes to body flicker Itachi is extremely fast. Faster than Sasuke considering when he body flickered Bee he had to tell Bee he was infront of him and behind him.

Lastly, Itachi genjutsu put Killer bee under influence and he was a Perfect Jin. Gaara was far from being a perfect Jin and Itachi finger genjutsu would easily rape gaara.


Itachi takes this 0 to no difficulty
 
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The Trollery is strong with this one. Lol.

Another thing i've noticed on the base in my 7-8 months here (dont feel like counting) is that everyone always thinks the match is a stomp. Theres never a "close" match.
:O Ive noticed the same thing (although of course of seen many cases when people say its close) the majority is indeed " Ninja X Stomps" Then when i ask how they say .. because the ninja uses his strongest move that puts a great strain on him :|

Ive seen people say Pain stomps with CT for example U_U
 
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