Gaara is Itachi's Worst Match Up(Read)

[ShinobiX]

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I can see how you'd interpret the last bit as only saying he would implying he didn't but the first two pages confirm that he went through with it. itachi didn't solo the clan. He's an amazing shinobi a greater genius not seen since the 4th or Shisui perhaps...but he had help with the clan.

No, you are making stuff up now. Where does it imply or say that TOBI actually HELPED itachi KILL his CLAN?

"I would" doesn't mean that he actually did.

He was sought out so that Itachi could make a deal with him, Itachi kills the clan and helps him get his revenge vs the Uchiha's, in exchange Madara wouldn't do anything vs the leaf.

Quite simple.

 

[Lunir]

No, you are making stuff up now. Where does it imply or say that TOBI actually HELPED itachi KILL his CLAN?

"I would" doesn't mean that he actually did.

He was sought out so that Itachi could make a deal with him, Itachi kills the clan and helps him get his revenge vs the Uchiha's, in exchange Madara wouldn't do anything vs the leaf.

Quite simple.

(Page 1 displayed in previous post)Tobi: "You asked Itachi yourself. About who helped him that night"

(Page 2 displayed in previous post)Tobi: "It was me, Uchiha Madara"

 

[ShinobiX]

(Page 1 displayed in previous post)Tobi: "You asked Itachi yourself. About who helped him that night"

(Page 2 displayed in previous post)Tobi: "It was me, Uchiha Madara"

Helped him that night, with what? with the actual killing of the clan? All we have seen is Itachi killing the clan, if better more accurate proof is provided that Tobi actually helped WITH THE KILLING then I will agree with you, but thats not the case.

"Helped him" can also mean that he was just there to collect eyes and we have seen the large collection of Sharingan eyes tobi has.

 

[Lunir]

Helped him that night, with what? with the actual killing of the clan? All we have seen is Itachi killing the clan, if better more accurate proof is provided that Tobi actually helped WITH THE KILLING then I will agree with you, but thats not the case.

"Helped him" can also mean that he was just there to collect eyes and we have seen the large collection of Sharingan eyes tobi has.

How is hoarding Sharingan eyes for self benefit helping Itachi? Why would Tobi agree not to attack the village in exchange for Itachi killing the clan which he was going to do anyway, and before you say "for the sharingan" Tobi could have collected them after the slaughter with or without Itachi's consent.

But I suppose you're right about one thing, as with many things in the manga not many specifics are given for certain events, but that hurts your case as much as mine. Where as I have little evidence confirming he helped with the slaughter you have little evidence proving other wise.

So we can agree to disagree on this point.

 

[Deadai]

ShinobiX such a fanboy haven't seen a diluted fanboy like you since Uchiha Macho

 

[ShinobiX]

How is hoarding Sharingan eyes for self benefit helping Itachi? Why would Tobi agree not to attack the village in exchange for Itachi killing the clan which he was going to do anyway, and before you say "for the sharingan" Tobi could have collected them after the slaughter with or without Itachi's consent.

But I suppose you're right about one thing, as with many things in the manga not many specifics are given for certain events, but that hurts your case as much as mine. Where as I have little evidence confirming he helped with the slaughter you have little evidence proving other wise.

So we can agree to disagree on this point.

Tobi agreed not to attack the village because Itachi would help him get his revenge on the Uchiha clan that betrayed him.

I agree this can go both ways, if future reverence confirms any of these two possibilities, it would be nice. Not saying you are wrong, saying I am not convinced

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Watch the manga dude, Itachi can use powerful long range control genjutsus. Gaara is no match for Itachi, Itachi is to powerful.

Itachi can use one powerful long range tech(Yasaka Magatama) that Gaara can dodge while riding sand or block with a buttload of sand.

 

[ShinobiX]

Itachi can use one powerful long range tech(Yasaka Magatama) that Gaara can dodge while riding sand or block with a buttload of sand.

No proof for bolded part.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

how can gaara pull itachi out of susanoo don't forget that itachi's susanoo has yata mirror it can repel ALL attack and i don't think susanoo's sword can be blocked by gaara's sand

Yata doesn't cover the ground Itachi's standing on so he'll attackItachi with the sand directly under his feet, pull him out of Susanoo and crush him with sand, he doesn't need to block Totsuka, he'll dodge by riding his sand(fast enough to block Amaterasu)

 

[~Uzumaki~]

No proof for bolded part.

He shielded his entire division for 2nd Mizukage's clone's explosion with a buttload of sand.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

This has become a battle of the Itachi fanboys and the Itachi haters.

Truth, Itachi needed help to destroy Chibaku Tensei. Here is another Truth, he came to that battle after Chibaku tensei was being made. Can you use that battle against either Itachi or Nagato? NO because no battle starts with someone doing a move and then the other person arriving to the battle.

So Itachi fanboys, yes he finished off Nagato by himself, but he needed help to destroy Chibaku tensei.

To Itachi haters. Shisui wasn't in that battle. 4vs. 1? Yeah right please stop talking. Secondly no matter what you noobs say Itachi has genjutsu and Gaara is not immune to it. NO ONE IS. And yes Tsukuyomi only lasts one second, so no one is breaking out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi unless they are Sasuke or possibly Madara.

 

[ShinobiX]

Yata doesn't cover the ground Itachi's standing on so he'll attackItachi with the sand directly under his feet, pull him out of Susanoo and crush him with sand, he doesn't need to block Totsuka, he'll dodge by riding his sand(fast enough to block Amaterasu)

Manga fact: Gaara couldn't even beat Deidara...

Keep dreaming bro, keep dreaming.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Exactly what are you basing this off of? Physical attacks are normally repelled by susano'o what makes you think the physical sand can bbypass this without the aid of Oonoki's jutsu? sounds like you're just bending facts to fit theories instead of bending theories to fit facts.

Not really, Onoki made the sand light by reducing its weight, Gaara has manipulated sand large enough to cover his village so weight of sand isn't a problem for him and the sand that removed Madara was under his feet which was why it couldn't be repelled by Susanoo, Susanoo doesn't cover under the users feet.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Manga fact: Gaara couldn't even beat Deidara...

Keep dreaming bro, keep dreaming.

Unless Itachi can somehow get all Deidara's abilities, this doesn't matter. Naruto lost to Mizuki sensei the chunnin academy teacher once, does that mean he can't beat Kakashi, a jounin, now?

 

[Deadai]

Manga fact: Gaara couldn't even beat Deidara...

Keep dreaming bro, keep dreaming.

are you f****** retarded? Deidara mixed Garra's sand with his clay so it could burrow threw garra's Sand and explode Itachi does not have that same ability as Deidara I hate noob logic of "oh if Itachi > Deidara and Deidara > garra then Itachi > garra" it doesn't work like that your logic is failed =_=

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Gaara is not immune to it. NO ONE IS. And yes Tsukuyomi only lasts one second, so no one is breaking out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi unless they are Sasuke or possibly Madara.

Who said Gaara was immune to genjutsu? Why would someone say Gaara is immune? If Gaara was caught in a genjutsu, he's dead but luckily for him Tsukuyomi and Itachi's other genjutsu are short ranged and he's a long range fighter.

 

[FloriGlori]

..what you say doesn't make sense at all. Of course Susanoo is covered underground. Without Onoki making Gaara's sand lighter he has no chance of pulling Itachi out of Susanoo. Especially not if the complete version is activated. I don't see how Gaara is supposed to be a bad matchup for Itachi. His incredible speed enables him to dodge Gaara's sand attack without much trouble, though it's useless against him anyway - Susanoo will always protect him. If it's bonded by the sand, Itachi will deactivate it and continue on his own. If it's burried by sand it will simply force its way back out, like Kimimaro did back then.

 

[ShinobiX]

are you f****** retarded? Deidara mixed Garra's sand with his clay so it could burrow threw garra's Sand and explode Itachi does not have that same ability as Deidara I hate noob logic of "oh if Itachi > Deidara and Deidara > garra then Itachi > garra" it doesn't work like that your logic is failed =_=

Cry more, see if I care xd

Itachi is out of Gaara's league lol. Deidara even outsmarted Gaara lol

 

[Zato]

Man some people really have a hard time putting 2 and 2 together.

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Oonoki was the only reason Gaara was able to pull him with the sand. They were already fighting in a desert so sand everywhere from the get go. This why Gaara said what he said in that scene of the Manga to him pulling out Madara in the next page.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

No blindspot? Dude, Gaara's sand is mobile, if the speed of the attack is fast enuf, u can penetrate it. Both rock lee and Sasuke were able to do that. Itachi's shurikens are faster than the speed of either of them.

I'm not saying Gaara'll lose for sure, i'm just saying he'll be half dead before he can win.

Gaara sand has improved since he was 12, it is now fast enough to block Amaterasu, Itachi won't be using Kunai and Shuriken.