Gaara is Itachi's Worst Match Up(Read)

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Man some people really have a hard time putting 2 and 2 together.

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Oonoki was the only reason Gaara was able to pull him from the sand. They were already fighting in a desert so sand everywhere from the get go. This why Gaara said what he said in that scene of the Manga to him pulling out Madara in the next page.

Making sand light has to do with weight(its even called the light weight technique) but Gaara has shown to be able to manipulate much heavier sand than the quantity he used to pull Madara out of it(the qty he used to save Suna from Deidar's C3 and the quantity he used to save his Division from the Mizukage's exploding clone) so he doesn't need Onoki to do this.
 

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Itachi is out of Gaara's league lol. Deidara even outsmarted Gaara lol :hint:

by saying this I take you you think Deidara is an idiot? he has 4.5 Intelligence dude hes a genius Garra is perhaps the 2nd youngest kage(next to Fourth Mizukage Yagura ) do you think they just let anyone become a kage? no kage is the title given to the strongest in the village garra is very talented I mean he took out his father Fourth Kazekage and the 2nd Mizukage all in one afternoon and yet you still think Garra is not in Itachi's league?
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Making sand light has to do with weight(its even called the light weight technique) but Gaara has shown to be able to manipulate much heavier sand than the quantity he used to pull Madara out of it(the qty he used to save Suna from Deidar's C3 and the quantity he used to save his Division from the Mizukage's exploding clone) so he doesn't need Onoki to do this.

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It does make a difference.
 

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..what you say doesn't make sense at all. Of course Susanoo is covered underground. Without Onoki making Gaara's sand lighter he has no chance of pulling Itachi out of Susanoo. Especially not if the complete version is activated. I don't see how Gaara is supposed to be a bad matchup for Itachi. His incredible speed enables him to dodge Gaara's sand attack without much trouble, though it's useless against him anyway - Susanoo will always protect him. If it's bonded by the sand, Itachi will deactivate it and continue on his own. If it's burried by sand it will simply force its way back out, like Kimimaro did back then.

Itachi's 'incredible speed' can't be more than the Amaterasu Gaara used his sand to block in the Five Kage summit so he'll be caught and crushed.

If Itachi uses the full Susanoo, he'll still be standing on the ground, Gaara can manipulate the sand on that ground to pull him out and when he's out, he'll crush him with sand waiting for him there. His Susanoo will fade like Madara's did and he'll die.

The Light Weight technique reduced the weight of the sand but that doesn't mean Gaara can't manipulate heavy sand, he could manipulate sand large enough to cover his village so he has no problem with sand's weight.
 

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It does make a difference.

What you've shown me is Gaara manipulating sand without Onoki so...what's your point?
 

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dude one touch from itachi's susanoo will rape garra. and by the way why do u think that itachi will stand still and let garra pull him out of his susanoo, (if he couldd ofcourse) and all u are saying are the worst possibilities that can happen to itachi. imagine what would happen if garra ran out of chakra, or if itachi knew some water jutsu, or garra was caught in his genjutsu. i agree that he can block the black flame (sorry cant spell it). but against itachi he is no match.

Gaara on his sand can avoid Susanoo's 'touch' and can block it with sand when neccessary, Itachi can't do anything against the sand that catches him from underneath, and OILY water destroyed the sand, not normal, but oily water, Itachi's genjutsu is short ranged and Gaara is long ranged so its not even a factor.
 

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What you've shown me is Gaara manipulating sand without Onoki so...what's your point?

The point is the sand that's in his gourd is a lot stronger then the sand that isn't. This is why he needed Oonoki to pull Madara out of his Susanoo. Thus why he said what he said right before he used the sand under his feet. It's just common sense why Oonoki made the sand lighter around the battle field.
 

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The point is the sand that's in his gourd is a lot stronger then the sand that isn't. This is why he needed Oonoki to pull Madara out of his Susanoo. Thus why he said what he said right before he used the sand under his feet. It's just common sense why Oonoki made the sand lighter around the battle field.

Can't he just send his gourd sand underneath Itachi then pull him out? then use a buttload of sand to crush him once he's out?
 
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Can't he just send his gourd sand underneath Itachi then pull him out? then use a buttload of sand to crush him once he's out?

Well I don't like to theory craft. If he uses the sand in his gourd to attack then the sand that's left to protect him is lowered if Itachi attacks. Meaning every time he attacks he open up weak spots. I'm not saying Gaara can't beat Itachi or the other way around. I just like to state facts.
 

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Utter rubbish. Pre ms sasuke will beat current gaara.

Nuff said

Now that one is total bullshit. Gaara has improved by leaps and bounds.

Also you SHOULD read the post. He actually had a few DECENT points unlike most of the retards that post on here.
 

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Well I don't like to theory craft. If he uses the sand in his gourd to attack then the sand that's left to protect him is lowered if Itachi attacks. Meaning every time he attacks he open up weak spots. I'm not saying Gaara can't beat Itachi or the other way around. I just like to state facts.

Send a buttload of sand at Itachi, Itachi will attack the buttload, mix in a little gourd sand with the buttload, send that gourd sand to Itachi's feet pull hi m out then use the buttload to crush, every Vs thread has theory crafts. People gather to make assumptions based on manga knowledge.
 

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Send a buttload of sand at Itachi, Itachi will attack the buttload, mix in a little gourd sand with the buttload, send that gourd sand to Itachi's feet pull hi m out then use the buttload to crush, every Vs thread has theory crafts. People gather to make assumptions based on manga knowledge.

I just don't like to theory craft unless its something that has actually happened in the Manga that can be used in a discussion.
 

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Accordijg to this idiots thread I picked up 2 things.
1. According to all the crap he says then part one gaara could beat itachi.
2. He assumes the fighters would be so damn far apaet. What fight have you seen when the opponents weren't far away from itachi except for dieidaras. Gaara stands no chance itachi would destroy him kage or not. You are just one of those people who can't stand itachi being good so you try to think of ways for others to be better than him. If we hadn't seen him fodderize oro then you would prolly say he could kill itachi with 10000 snakes or something
 

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Accordijg to this idiots thread I picked up 2 things.
1. According to all the crap he says then part one gaara could beat itachi.
2. He assumes the fighters would be so damn far apaet. What fight have you seen when the opponents weren't far away from itachi except for dieidaras. Gaara stands no chance itachi would destroy him kage or not. You are just one of those people who can't stand itachi being good so you try to think of ways for others to be better than him. If we hadn't seen him fodderize oro then you would prolly say he could kill itachi with 10000 snakes or something

good observation
 

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I highly doubt his shuriken can outspeed Rock Lee, that's a pretty bogus statement. Anyway, nothing as simple as a shuriken is getting passed Gaara's defense, lets be logical here.

I see this thread as saying that Gaara is a bad match-up for Itachi, and nothing more. I still think Itachi can beat Gaara with high difficulty, but just not in his usual fashion with a genjutsu. Gaara's sand makes it pretty tricky for Itachi to use a lot of his jutsu. Amaterasu wouldn't work because we've seen Gaara block Amaterasu before and Itachi wouldn't spam his MS unless he was sure he could use it to win. Tsukiyomi would prove hard to cast on Gaara but I think it's possible. It is a short ranged attack (Note: for people saying it's stated in the manga that it's long ranged, it's saying that once that person is caught in the genjutsu, he can keep them in the genjutsu from far distances).

But yea, maybe with a little more years under his belt, he could actually beat Itachi with little difficulty, because he has yet to reach his prime, and he is a little more inexperienced, which are the reasons I take him for not eing able to win right now.

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Nothing that's not ridiculously fast gets through the rinnegan's blind spots, try again.

Oh, and for all this 'long range' talk, ppl u do know Deidara is long range? Yet he was pwned by Itachi in 1 hit through genjutsu.
 
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maybe he could beat itachi..unless itachi just use fireball gaara blocked he used haze appeared right infront of him poked his finger out then BAM ..genjutsu..dnt flame me plz :)
 

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also gaara could use a sand eye to look at itachi witout risking getting caught in Tsukuyomi
 

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Itachi pawned Deidara with no effort and Deidara beat Gaara
 

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Accordijg to this idiots thread I picked up 2 things.
1. According to all the crap he says then part one gaara could beat itachi.
2. He assumes the fighters would be so damn far apaet. What fight have you seen when the opponents weren't far away from itachi except for dieidaras. Gaara stands no chance itachi would destroy him kage or not. You are just one of those people who can't stand itachi being good so you try to think of ways for others to be better than him. If we hadn't seen him fodderize oro then you would prolly say he could kill itachi with 10000 snakes or something

Oro was close range, it was his own fault. Gaara and his father were far apart, Gaara and Madara were far apart. To be insulting me, I think you're taking this too seriously, its just manga, jeez.
 
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