Gaara and Kankuro vs Sasori and Kakuzu

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sasori stealed 3rd kazekage and iron sand , kankouro stealed sasori .we can't blame kankarou about this.he owned edo sasori and deidara in same time.
by the way if they had to fight again in both prime

kankouro vs sasori

i still think that kankouro wins ,this guy has sasori's puppet and the jutsu to protect against iron sand and has his black secret technique that surpassed sasori's red secret technique (his hundreds puppets is part of red secret technique).
there u are!!! agreed...
but sasori said "" its true kankuro, u have......(surpassed me)... "" before he could say it, he waz dead
 

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Fml , i'm done trying to exlpain anything to you people
wats FML??...n i think u've had enough of this...listen...kankuro is now way more skilled than sasori...its not my fault tht he wasnt summoned without any powers...but didnt u just see...it was 2 against 1....will u also say that deidara also didnt get anything with the edo??...hmph!!...
 

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Fml , i'm done trying to exlpain anything to you people
wats FML??...n i think u've had enough of this...listen...kankuro is now way more skilled than sasori...its not my fault tht he wasnt summoned without any powers...but didnt u just see...it was 2 against 1....will u also say that deidara also didnt get anything with the edo??...hmph!!...
 

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wats FML??...n i think u've had enough of this...listen...kankuro is now way more skilled than sasori...its not my fault tht he wasnt summoned without any powers...but didnt u just see...it was 2 against 1....will u also say that deidara also didnt get anything with the edo??...hmph!!...
2against 1 and what could sasori do? nothing... Thats like making gaara fight someone without any sand, or the gourd on his back..
 

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-.^....really???...lyk why??
Sasori didnt have any of his puppets, not a single one. A puppet master without his puppets is like Uchiha with gauged eyes. Also, pleace notice that Sasori was revived in his human body. When he was turend into puppet, his skills in Kugutsu were way above of any other puppet master, as he was able to control even 100 puppets at once. To put it simply, if this was battle between Sasori and Kankuro in their strongest forms, Kankuro would have been owned.
 
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Sasori didnt have any of his puppets, not a single one. A puppet master without his puppets is like Uchiha with gauged eyes. Also, pleace notice that Sasori was revived in his human body. When he was turend into puppet, his skills in Kugutsu were way above of any other puppet master, as he was able to control even 100 puppets at once. To put it simply, if this was battle between Sasori and Kankuro in their strongest forms, Kankuro would have been owned.
im still curious...why was h summoned without any weapons??...is there a story behind it??
 

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2against 1 and what could sasori do? nothing... Thats like making gaara fight someone without any sand, or the gourd on his back..
naaah...he surely didnt have 3rd and his puppets, BUT HE HAD HIMSELF, HIS FINAL FORM!!!!!

and gaara's example is purely lame.....it shud rather be like ""SUMMONING KAKUZU WITHOUT HIS 2 ELEMENTS, (IN HIS FULL HAIRY FORM)!!!!

THATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!
 

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When kabuto revived him via edo tensei, He did not have his summoning scrolls, or puppets, he had nothing, not a kunai nothing and could do nothing
Thats what m asking...y??...y didn he had anything...didn thy give their best in in war...??...then why bring their good edos go guardless??
 

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im still curious...why was h summoned without any weapons??...is there a story behind it??
Puppets are just things, they dont have any soul. For example, we dont see Madara having his fan.
naaah...he surely didnt have 3rd and his puppets, BUT HE HAD HIMSELF, HIS FINAL FORM!!!!!
Nah, he was revived into his human body, he was far from his prime form.
 

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naaah...he surely didnt have 3rd and his puppets, BUT HE HAD HIMSELF, HIS FINAL FORM!!!!!

and gaara's example is purely lame.....it shud rather be like ""SUMMONING KAKUZU WITHOUT HIS 2 ELEMENTS, (IN HIS FULL HAIRY FORM)!!!!

THATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!
Sasori was brought back in his human body....
 

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Puppets are just things, they dont have any soul. For example, we dont see Madara having his fan.

Nah, he was revived into his human body, he was far from his prime form.
Sasori was brought back in his human body....
well then why the hell did kabuto even summon him in the war??..he couldve just him be at peace already...crap!!..
 

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Thats what m asking...y??...y didn he had anything...didn thy give their best in in war...??...then why bring their good edos go guardless??
not guardless, its that they are not armed... considering the very fact that they are winth infinite chara, and never get killed,!!!
its jux the puppets that are difficult to return!!!!

BECAUSE THE LEGENDRY 7 SWORDMIST MEN WERE ARMED WITH THEIR SPECIFIC SWORDS!!!!!
 

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well then why the hell did kabuto even summon him in the war??..he couldve just him be at peace already...crap!!..
Sasoris DNA was probably easy to get for Kabuto. He han a revide sh*tload of edos, so why the hell not?
there the incomplete sentence, i guess sasori tried to say that kankuro has surpassed. (i think so)
I really dont think that Kankuro can control 100 puppets at once like Sasori did in his prime form. Sasori with his toys is still way more powerful than Kankuro.
 

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I am a Sasori fan and as a whole I don't believe Kankuro has surpassed him.

However, Gaara in a desert is one of the most overpowered characters in the series. I don't think Sasori and Kakuzu would be able to even get at him, let alone kill him.
 

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Kankuro hasn't surpassed sasori yet

look at the facts

Kankuro can only use 3 puppets at once
Sasori can use more then 100 at once

Sasori killed the kazekage at the time and made him a puppet
Kankuro can't touch gaara if he tried or the 3rd

Even if you beat the 3rd kazekage and his 100or more puppets, he himself is a puppet
if you break kankuros puppets he's as good as dead

and don't forget all of anything sasori has is poison

Sasori > Kankuro
 

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My final analysis:

Both of these teams are aware of each others' abilities. Sasori is extremely familiar with Kankuro and both Akatsuki are somewhat familiar with Gaara since he had to be captured. Gaara and Kankuro are familiar with both Akatsuki at this point due to info. the Leaf provided. This hurts Sasori and Kakuzu more because their powers are most effective as an unkown.

In terms of abilities Team Akatsuki is at a disadvantage due to the terrain. Gaara is one of the few people who could easily handle 100 puppets due to the enormity of his jutsus. His sand sensing also makes it impossible to sneak up on him. Kakuzu's iron skin jutsu will protect him from the sand, but his inability to fly quickly will allow Gaara to sink him in the desert like he did Kimimaro. Sasori can fly fairly quickly, but a puppets weakness is its joints and Gaara could easily exploit that by using his sand to clog them up. I am also not sure Team Akatsuki could make a jutsu strong enough to make it through Gaara's defenses.

If this thread had come out before the current arc, I might have been inclined to go with the Akatsuki. But Gaara has been a monster in the war. He has been involved in the defeat of 3 kage (beating 2 by himself) without taking a break, and is now fighting Madara. The jutsus and stamina he has shown in this arc is absolutely godly.

As far as intelligence and experience goes, this is the only category Sasori and Kakuzu have an edge in. The databook gives both Akatsuki a perfect score (5) in intelligence. Gaara and Kankuro have a 4 and a 3.5 respectively. If the Akatsuki are capable of pulling a win out in this setting, it would be due almost entirely to superior intelligence.

Lastly, let's take a last look at the environment. There couldn't be a better spot for Gaara to fight. He borders on invincible in a desert. To have any hope of beating him in a desert it is almost required to be able to fly otherwise he can just grab you with the sand under your feet. Both Akatsuki can fly to some extent, but Kakuzu is very slow while flying and Sasori probably can't control his puppets while flying. This is the biggest advantage there is.

For my final analysis, I would give a huge edge to Gaara and Kankuro. As I said earlier, the only way I can see Sasori and Kakuzu winning this would be if they outsmart their opponents.
 

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sasori stealed 3rd kazekage and iron sand , kankouro stealed sasori .we can't blame kankarou about this.he owned edo sasori and deidara in same time.
by the way if they had to fight again in both prime

kankouro vs sasori

i still think that kankouro wins ,this guy has sasori's puppet and the jutsu to protect against iron sand and has his black secret technique that surpassed sasori's red secret technique (his hundreds puppets is part of red secret technique).
you're right :)
 
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