Fused Momoshiki VS Adult Naruto

[DHOH]

No Restrictions
No intell
Who wins?

 

[Ansatsuken]

Adult Naruto if he no restricted by plot.

 

[KidGamer65]

If Naruto can still utilize the Bijuu's abilities he'd destroy Momoshiki in Taijutsu using Kairiki Musou and he'd wreck his golem w/ that and his Avatar. If not then he'd need Ashura's Avatar, and if he can't use that then he dies on his own as most of his abilities that are strong enough to do anything are chakra based.

 

[ARGUS]

Flash TBB one shots naruto

Any other nuke is just food for momoshiki and in taijutsu he is canonically below him, given he needed Sasuke S help to overpower him

 

[Dizzldot]

Flash TBB one shots naruto

Any other nuke is just food for momoshiki and in taijutsu he is canonically below him, given he needed Sasuke S help to overpower him

Disagree, Momo was using more than taijutsu in that battle canonically he switched to taijutsu and was getting pin balled by the duo for the better part of the fight.

OT: Naruto wins for the sole reason nothing momo did seemed too impressive and Kurama avatar was man handling everything Momo threw at it and could have taken care of the golem for sure if one sword slash did. Also depends on what powers Momo has at his disposal though that shadow power was OP but probably can't contain an avatar from moving and naruto's avatar over momo's

 

[ARGUS]

Disagree, Momo was using more than taijutsu in that battle canonically he switched to taijutsu and was getting pin balled by the duo for the better part of the fight.

Uh no. He was only getting overwhelmed once they were fighting together
Later on, we saw that Sasuke (on par with naruto in CqC) get kicked like a football despite the feint and the ameno switch
So if naruto attacks himself in close quarters, the same happens to him

OT: Naruto wins for the sole reason nothing momo did seemed too impressive and Kurama avatar was man handling everything Momo threw at it and could have taken care of the golem for sure if one sword slash did. Also depends on what powers Momo has at his disposal though that shadow power was OP but probably can't contain an avatar from moving and naruto's avatar over momo's

All of this is baslesss and pure speculation
The only way naruto can actually kill momoshiki is with his nukes, but as shown they're pure food for him, so the more he tries to attack, the worst it gets,
Base momoshiki one shotted naruto with his TBB
Fused momoshiki this time, kills him for good

 

[KidGamer65]

Uh no. He was only getting overwhelmed once they were fighting together
Later on, we saw that Sasuke (on par with naruto in CqC) get kicked like a football despite the feint and the ameno switch
So if naruto attacks himself in close quarters, the same happens to him



All of this is baslesss and pure speculation
The only way naruto can actually kill momoshiki is with his nukes, but as shown they're pure food for him, so the more he tries to attack, the worst it gets,
Base momoshiki one shotted naruto with his TBB
Fused momoshiki this time, kills him for good

Naruto using Kokuo's powers in CQC would molest Momoshiki.

And no, Naruto can kill Momoshiki with physical attacks if they are strong enough, i.e. Kairiki Musou. And Base Momoshiki only "one shotted" Naruto because Naruto wrapped himself around the blow to protect Konoha. Otherwise he simply forms the Ashura Avatar and overpowers the ball and blows Momoshiki to oblivion.

Then we have the fact that Momoshiki can't use that without absorbing a Bijuu Dama from Naruto in the first place, and unless Naruto starts off with a Bijuu Dama he'll figure out that Momoshiki absorbs chakra early on and not ever resort to that.

-Momoshiki can't deal with the Ashura Avatar as a weaker Avatar already killed him.
-Momoshiki can't manhandle Naruto w/ Kairiki Musou in CQC.
-Momoshiki can't use Bijuu Dama unless he absorbs one from Naruto.

 

[lndra]

All of this is baslesss and pure speculation
The only way naruto can actually kill momoshiki is with his nukes, but as shown they're pure food for him, so the more he tries to attack, the worst it gets,
Base momoshiki one shotted naruto with his TBB
Fused momoshiki this time, kills him for good

It was actually stated that

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, but he could not because the surrounding area obviously would be destroyed. So he used the Kyuubi's Avatar to take in the damage from the inside out, resulting in no one in the surrounding area being hurt besides him.

If Naruto was in an area with no one but himself, Momoshiki would never be shown again.

 

[Warlocks]

If Naruto can still utilize the Bijuu's abilities he'd destroy Momoshiki in Taijutsu using Kairiki Musou and he'd wreck his golem w/ that and his Avatar. If not then he'd need Ashura's Avatar, and if he can't use that then he dies on his own as most of his abilities that are strong enough to do anything are chakra based.

that ^

 

[Dizzldot]

Uh no. He was only getting overwhelmed once they were fighting together
Later on, we saw that Sasuke (on par with naruto in CqC) get kicked like a football despite the feint and the ameno switch
So if naruto attacks himself in close quarters, the same happens to him



All of this is baslesss and pure speculation
The only way naruto can actually kill momoshiki is with his nukes, but as shown they're pure food for him, so the more he tries to attack, the worst it gets,
Base momoshiki one shotted naruto with his TBB
Fused momoshiki this time, kills him for good

You meant naruto literally surrounded the TBB with his entire avatar which sasuke said he could easily flick away had it not been for the surroundings and then took it to the face? With the tailed beast's KKG like steam release he turns momo into fodder juice. And saying the same happens to naruto as what happened to sasuke is dumb, 1. naruto can't ameno 2. His speed dodged the raikage who in canon has always been portrayed faster than momoshiki
They were always fighting together lol when naruto went RSM they were standing next to each other and simultaneously attacked. Also he one shotted toneri with a punch, he can do the same here and the avatar is not baseless thats literally canon he was destroying the fire bird and wood dragons why should the golem be any different

 

[Ambivalence]

If the fanfic that Momoshiki can absorb multiple extremely high-powered techniques coming at him is considered possible, then he wins. His best feat is absorbing a single BD from Gyuiki, iirc - BDFRS, Flash RSM BD or Dual RS with world's NE are a completely different story. Lol at Momoshiki one-shotting Naruto.

Naruto mid-diffs, imho.

 

[KidGamer65]

It was actually stated that

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, but he could not because the surrounding area obviously would be destroyed. So he used the Kyuubi's Avatar to take in the damage from the inside out, resulting in no one in the surrounding area being hurt besides him.

If Naruto was in an area with no one but himself, Momoshiki would never be shown again.

Damn didn't even know a scan proving that existed. Maybe I should start reading this new Manga. Anyway with this I think it's pretty obvious that Momoshiki doesn't stand a chance.

 

[King Of Pop]

the guy saying momoshiki one shots with a biju dama is pretty funny considering he needs naruto to feed him that. if naruto doesnt use bijuu dama, where is he going to get it from? anyways naruto makes his 3 kurama avatar clones, and in combination with the original they engage momoshiki in cqc and wreck him

 

[lndra]

Damn didn't even know a scan proving that existed. Maybe I should start reading this new Manga. Anyway with this I think it's pretty obvious that Momoshiki doesn't stand a chance.

They added more dialogue to scenes which were not explained thoroughly. I hope they put more information in the next chapter, I think it is going to be promising.

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Free VIZ.

 

[NextGenNinja]

Flash TBB one shots naruto

Any other nuke is just food for momoshiki and in taijutsu he is canonically below him, given he needed Sasuke S help to overpower him

Actually, it seems he has a limited use of jutsu he absorbs or at least according to sasuke.

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I initially thought momoshiki was the superior one here, but these posts changed my mind.

 

[Dizzldot]

Actually, it seems he has a limited use of jutsu he absorbs or at least according to sasuke.

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I initially thought momoshiki was the superior one here, but these posts changed my mind.

I didnt see the scan but I thought that was how it worked and any jutsu he absorbs is doubled in power at least thats what he did to bee's TBB. Why doesnt he just use his own jutsu lol

 

[NextGenNinja]

I didnt see the scan but I thought that was how it worked and any jutsu he absorbs is doubled in power at least thats what he did to bee's TBB. Why doesnt he just use his own jutsu lol

The guy i replied to made it seem like momoshiki can spam the jutsu he absorbed. Anyways, sasuke basically said momo's ability is similar to the kote, even said "but that ammunition is gone once you use it".

Momoshiki is supposed to be a foil to boruto, like using and depending on others strength.

 

[ARGUS]

Naruto using Kokuo's powers in CQC would molest Momoshiki.

Kokuos powers utilize boil release so momoshiki will just absorb them
Doubt that adult naruto even has that much chakra from the bijuu to regularly use them. Not when he almost ran out at Vote and there has been no signs of bijuu giving him their chakra afterwards

And no, Naruto can kill Momoshiki with physical attacks if they are strong enough, i.e. Kairiki Musou.

If even shadow clones were stated to be inaffective, then I doubt km would work as stated above, that's if we assume that adult naruto even has such ability

And Base Momoshiki only "one shotted" Naruto because Naruto wrapped himself around the blow to protect Konoha.

Doesn't change the fact that momo has enough output even in base, to breach his avatar, especially when his elemental attacks were ripping apart the ISO susanoo head
So if naruto shoots any nuke at momo (which he definitely will, given no Intel) then momoshiki this time one shots him for good since momo shot that TBB after absorbing hachibis and spending chakra with the elemental barrage

Naruto nukes would power him up far more, and momo is stronger himself to begin with

Otherwise he simply forms the Ashura Avatar and overpowers the ball and blows Momoshiki to oblivion.

He is not absorbing all that energy before momoshiki hits him
Apart from world Ne RS, any nukes from naruto would get absorbed anyway

Then we have the fact that Momoshiki can't use that without absorbing a Bijuu Dama from Naruto in the first place, and unless Naruto starts off with a Bijuu Dama he'll figure out that Momoshiki absorbs chakra early on and not ever resort to that.

1. No intel indicates that naruto is bound to shoot off an attack and enable momo to shoot his TBB
2. Naruto won't get a chance to form ashura avatar and this time his TBB one shots him for good
3. Thread stipulations made me believe that momo starts Fresh meaning he has enough chakra to attack

-Momoshiki can't deal with the Ashura Avatar as a weaker Avatar already killed him.

Won't get formed

-Momoshiki can't manhandle Naruto w/ Kairiki Musou in CQC.

Gets absorbed or naruto most likely doesn't even have it

-Momoshiki can't use Bijuu Dama unless he absorbs one from Naruto.

Which he most likely will

 

[KidGamer65]

Kokuos powers utilize boil release so momoshiki will just absorb them
Doubt that adult naruto even has that much chakra from the bijuu to regularly use them. Not when he almost ran out at Vote and there has been no signs of bijuu giving him their chakra afterwards

Lmao I shouldn't have to tell you of all people why this makes no sense. Kokuo heats up Naruto's chakra thus makes him stronger. There is no chakra released or Ninjutsu fired out for Momoshiki to absorb.

And Naruto can get chakra from the Bijuu whenever he wants. Sasuke never said he was running out either. Sasuke said that Naruto only has a small piece of the Bijuu's chakra, thus Naruto can't beat him, who possesses all 9 Bijuu. Nothing more, nothing less. Naruto didn't even use their abilities in that fight so how in the world would he run out?

If even shadow clones were stated to be inaffective, then I doubt km would work as stated above, that's if we assume that adult naruto even has such ability

Addressed. Kairiki Musou and Shadow Clones aren't even close to being similar in terms of how they are used so that's a moot point to make.

Doesn't change the fact that momo has enough output even in base, to breach his avatar, especially when his elemental attacks were ripping apart the ISO susanoo head
So if naruto shoots any nuke at momo (which he definitely will, given no Intel) then momoshiki this time one shots him for good since momo shot that TBB after absorbing hachibis and spending chakra with the elemental barrage

Who cares if he has the power output to breach his Avatar with a direct hit when said direct hit won't ever land? And your line of thinking is beyond flawed here. With no intel why would he go straight for a nuke against a humanoid opponent? When Naruto fights he starts off in his humanoid forms such as Sage Mode, KCM, BSM or RSM and then when that doesn't work he calls on Kurama. Thus he'd fight in his RSM humanoid form for a while, use attacks, figure out that Momoshiki can absorb Ninjutsu and then resort to Taijutsu.

He is not absorbing all that energy before momoshiki hits him
Apart from world Ne RS, any nukes from naruto would get absorbed anyway

Hits him with what? Naruto is canonically stated to be capable of blowing away the strongest attack Momoshiki can muster up nor does Momoshiki even have any attacks of his own besides that giant "Rasengan" like attack he used against Boruto's Rasengan at the end of the movie and the ability to manipulate the surroundings. None of which are Bijuu Dama leveled attacks. The strongest attack Momoshiki can use on his own is something Base Naruto and Boruto overpowered.

1. No intel indicates that naruto is bound to shoot off an attack and enable momo to shoot his TBB

Nope.

2. Naruto won't get a chance to form ashura avatar and this time his TBB one shots him for good

Nope.

3. Thread stipulations made me believe that momo starts Fresh meaning he has enough chakra to attack

Enough chakra doesn't mean he has jutsu preloaded. If he doesn't absorb a Bijuu Dama he can't use it, and Naruto has no reason to start off with a Bijuu Dama against an opponent he knows nothing about.

Which he most likely will

Based on? Genuinely curious how it makes sense for Naruto to jump to Bijuu Mode and use his strongest attack against a humanoid opponent he knows nothing about.

Naruto attacks in his regular form, figures out that Momoshiki can absorb Ninjutsu and either one shots with his Ashura Avatar nuke or he kills him in Taijutsu using Kokuo's powers.

 

[ARGUS]

It was actually stated that

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, but he could not because the surrounding area obviously would be destroyed. So he used the Kyuubi's Avatar to take in the damage from the inside out, resulting in no one in the surrounding area being hurt besides him.

If Naruto was in an area with no one but himself, Momoshiki would never be shown again.

this is not even kishimotos work, so I'll take it with a grain of salt
If the movie deliberately doesn't have this saying then I'll take what's actually shown from kishimotos work well over some underlings filler manga