funny how Itachi is stronger than most kages of history

more intelligent: Itachi or Gaara?


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Realistically if you don't resort to the usual Itachi in-depth bullshit and focus on his actual role in the manga as a character there are lots of kage who stand a fighting chance and a few who can surely beat him. Itachi IS kage level but that is as far as his character takes him.

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Hashirama & Tobirama could defeat Itachi. Pure and simple, Tobirama is controversial & can't be 100% proven but it is obvious what level a teleporting, badass hokage water master survivor of the early war Senju would be on.

Minato and Itachi isn't a subject I want to talk about because it's cancerous but Minato without KCM seem pretty matched. Both have hax sh*tty instant jutsu and are made for each other.

Now for the ones who just stand a fighting chance. Like someone said already, A & his father are both incredibly huge on power, speed and stamina so unless Itachi can kill them quick, they will play on Itachi's stamina weakness and could potentially win. Onoki & Muu equally can fly and have catastrophic powers, don't count them out so easily. Hanzo, whilst technically not a Kage (more a demikage) could also defeat Itachi.

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So that's:
3 definite wins
1 tie
4 fighting chances

Tobirama struggled to beat izuna and only beat him when it seemed like he was out of chakra. For that matter izuna probably didn't even have amaterasu as there were no black flames for miles, nor did he have spirit weapons.

Anyway, Hashirama is the only guarantee. Simply pout. Uchiha > All clans, and that's the 3 tomoe fodder uchiha's who got them that respect. Therefore, by default, Itachi is already > all these kage who aren't either uchiha or part of the only clan which beat uchiha. That wouldn't be so much of an advantage for itachi if all he had was 3 tomoe, but the guy has MS which is a top-tier ability in a top tier clan. And to make this already skewed battle even MORE skewed, Itachi is a top tier member with this top tier tier ability in this top tier clan - evidenced by the fact that he 3-tomoe fodderized 3 high level uchiha.

Anyway, I don't see Ay or his father remotely beating itachi. Ay couldn't get through susano'o and he's shown to be vulnerable to genjutsu (that's already death for him - same for his father). Only people who can circumvent his genjutsu/sharingan - Tobirama(senju did this shit somehow), Mei (hiddan mist), Trollkage( Clam), Muu to some degree( invisibility ), Gaara( 3rd eye maybe? but that's controversial since it's linked to optic nerve...), - Anyone else gets completely train wrecked by the basic abilities of 3 tomoe sharingan, let alone that of an MS sharingan in the hands of an extremely capable shinobi. Though, i'd have to say minato has a chance simply because of the complexities of FTG.



*this next part is absoutely not directed at you. For that matter, the top bit slightly is. This is directed to all the abundant haters in this thread*

All the people talking about itachi wank. Talking about fanboys and blah blah kage's will shit on him. Please tell me what clan your kage was from? Please tell me if said clan was #1 of the most powerful clans? It's highly doubtful it was. Really, only tobirama could be (featlessly) speculated to beating itachi. Everyone else has a very minor chance. Soon I'll be hearing X and Y Kage beating EMS madara too :|
 

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No i am not disagreeing with the OP about Itachi beating her, but i just dislike people singling her out specifically among the 5 hokage. Each hokage has something unique. Tsunade Creation rebirth and Byakugou is pretty awesome and a good example of her skill in medical ninjutsu. I think she just deserves a little more recognition. She is the only female hokage and i think even then she can hold a decent fight against the others.

she might hold a decent fight but she is weak in ninjutsu!. if u really want tsunade to be great u have to pit her against people like Gai,Leeetc. thus htere are many ninjas stronger than her.the past hokage are stronger than her.the only thing that makes her look good is hte senju-Uzumaki DNA. she is good at healing,medicaljutsus.but when it ocmes to fight,she is weak(not physically) against long-ranged and lethal closerange fighters.
 

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i would say that FTG,wOOD CLONE,enma and FTGSlash look more awesome than bykogou and where is the slug sage mode? until we see that she is potentially below hte 4 hokages.
 

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Again, analytical skills don't add to intelligence and who said Itachi wasn't using the Sharigan? It clearly shows two-three pages before that he had it activated it's an ability not an intelligence feat

Yes they do, being able to analyze the situation quickly & calmly is a feat of intelligence. I'm not going to sit here explaining why that is because it should be obvious.

Hakugeki blinds the enemy with light, Itachi had his eye open but he couldnt see anything because of the brightness, which is the whole point behind his prediction skills.

Even without the aid of his sharingan Itachi is smart enough to know what kabuto is going to do before he doest it. I'm through arguing this point into the ground but If you wanna downplay Itachi's intelligence because you dont believe analytical skills are a part of someone's intelligence, then be my guest.

& im still waiting for that ninja who can dodge a kunai while impaired from all senses.

Hahaha let's not play.dumb,you indirectly tried to say someone else was an idiot, with the whole "Real idiot" comment. Stop it!

No, I called him an idiot, I admit it.

He came out of nowhere to call me an idiot because I didnt reply to your thread right away. I never had a problem with him & he goes to insult me? Of course I'm gonna insult him back. But tell me boy why would you discredit yourself by insultinge me as well? We were having a mature debate & you go on & call me an Idiot because I have a different opinion than you? Nice try but that spells immature to me.

He provided no argument & thought he had the right to call me an idiot, lol please...At least you have some sort of rebuttal, but why would you ruin your credibility by insulting me for no reason?? Please dude, if you wanna insult someone then go do it somewhere else.

So is it predict his movements or his feelings? Make up your mind. Nonetheless, none display intelligence as this would be a skill, as i stated before. Also, from what remember only one eye went blind.
Also, that's the ability to sense an opponent, something other nonsensors can do, relax

Itachi read kabuto's feelings & used that to predict his movements. & this is intelligence. Itachi was able to figure out where kabuto was going to strike before he even did it. He used his logical thinking plus his reading of kabuto to predict what he will do next. He didnt use a damn sensing ability, he used his head.

Stop downplaying Itachi's intelligence :rolleyes:

Why are you stating the obvious as if it's intelligence? !?! Who can't see what C is? He asked naruto how he survived and he gave him the details he needed, how much more straightforward can that be?!?

Drawing into the center is key to the technique -_- lol

Naruto gave an explanation that didnt help Itachi. Everything that naruto said was not new knowledge to him. As I said he immediately figured out that CBT had an attractive force, therefore naruto saying that it "draws" in the opponent would be of no use to him in figuring out the jutsu.

The fact that it took Itachi moments to find a counter for a powerful & terrifying jutsu is also proof of intelligence. He can quickly & calmly assess the situation & come up with a strategy to counter.

Deny facts all you want. Itachi's intelligence >>>>>>> gaara's, manga fact.


I've stated this multiple times, have u not read through the thread?

Garra vs 2Nd mizukage

I dont care, I saw you say that gaara has more intelligence than Itachi, show me some F*cking scans to support your claim, otherwise you are on the severely losing side of this debate.

You havent even given me 1 shred of evidence to support yourself & you expect me to believe you? lol but no Lol

You're not getting the difference between a skill and intelligence

Gai being able to read ones movement only by observing their feet is a SKILL

This being very similar

They are similar because they are predicting movements, but the way both of them predict movements is completely different.

Gai reads the body language of his opponents, thats how he can strike by looking at their feet. If gai was blinded by Hakugeki then he wouldnt be able to fight properly, he wouldnt have that prediction ability.

Now with Itachi, he doesnt read any body language, he read kabuto's feelings, meaning that he is smart enough to know how an enemy would act. The fact that Itachi can find out what a person is going to do without any sort of help from his other senses is pure proof of his intelligence as ive stated multiple times.

Gai's reading & Itachi's reading are different, without his senses then gai wouldnt be able to do what Itachi did, because it requires critical thinking, like a friggin chess game. You must be one step ahead of your opponent. Well Itachi was playing chess with kabuto, & what kind of game is chess? Its is a physical sport, or is it an intellectual sport? Ill let you decide ;)
 
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hokages
Hashirama is the only one Itachi can't beat
genjutsu gg amaterasu gg
thunder god slash rasengan katon jutsus enma are countered with crow clones the onlyone who might cause problem is Minato... they're obviously OP (except Tsunade) but I can't see them win sorry

kazekages
3rd iron sand is way too slow... Itachi could one-shots him 6264 until he could form an absoluty defense
4th & Gaara: Itachi stomps.... no explanation needed here

mizukages
trollkage stands a chance (loses imo but puts up a good fight)
Mei is far below Itachi's level... even a sannin might beat him

tsuchikages
they are the most OP kages after hokages of course
both Muu and Onoki puts up a good fight Muu might beat him (though my money is on Itachi)

raikages
the 3rd Raikage gets defeated by genjutsu
A's only adventage would be speed but since Itachi kept up with KCM Naruto I'm sure A can't "speedblitz" him (as fanboys say) even if he catches him it will be a crow clone or genjutsu... I can't see A win...


as you see Itachi clearly wins against most of them
the only one who definitely beats him is Hashirama (in my peronal opinion even against him Itachi might stand a chance but I'm way too tired to debate)
Muu Onoki Trollkage stand a chance
by feats everyone else loses

(no trolls / haters / spammers please
and don't call me a fanboy unless you can prove me wrong)

Bahahahah he got banned.

And Minato > Itachi.
 

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Tobirama struggled to beat izuna and only beat him when it seemed like he was out of chakra. For that matter izuna probably didn't even have amaterasu as there were no black flames for miles, nor did he have spirit weapons.

Anyway, Hashirama is the only guarantee. Simply pout. Uchiha > All clans, and that's the 3 tomoe fodder uchiha's who got them that respect. Therefore, by default, Itachi is already > all these kage who aren't either uchiha or part of the only clan which beat uchiha. That wouldn't be so much of an advantage for itachi if all he had was 3 tomoe, but the guy has MS which is a top-tier ability in a top tier clan. And to make this already skewed battle even MORE skewed, Itachi is a top tier member with this top tier tier ability in this top tier clan - evidenced by the fact that he 3-tomoe fodderized 3 high level uchiha.

Anyway, I don't see Ay or his father remotely beating itachi. Ay couldn't get through susano'o and he's shown to be vulnerable to genjutsu (that's already death for him - same for his father). Only people who can circumvent his genjutsu/sharingan - Tobirama(senju did this shit somehow), Mei (hiddan mist), Trollkage( Clam), Muu to some degree( invisibility ), Gaara( 3rd eye maybe? but that's controversial since it's linked to optic nerve...), - Anyone else gets completely train wrecked by the basic abilities of 3 tomoe sharingan, let alone that of an MS sharingan in the hands of an extremely capable shinobi. Though, i'd have to say minato has a chance simply because of the complexities of FTG.



*this next part is absoutely not directed at you. For that matter, the top bit slightly is. This is directed to all the abundant haters in this thread*

All the people talking about itachi wank. Talking about fanboys and blah blah kage's will shit on him. Please tell me what clan your kage was from? Please tell me if said clan was #1 of the most powerful clans? It's highly doubtful it was. Really, only tobirama could be (featlessly) speculated to beating itachi. Everyone else has a very minor chance. Soon I'll be hearing X and Y Kage beating EMS madara too :|

how is it possible Uchiha>all clans when they got fodderized casually from Hashirama and co??
 

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how is it possible Uchiha>all clans when they got fodderized casually from Hashirama and co??

I forgot the 'except senju' part. They were #2 strongest. They're >>>>> all clans except clan at #1 aka senju.
 

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Bahahahah he got banned.

And Minato > Itachi.

Yeah, he got banned because he talked nonsense...he even made a poll itachi vs gaara XDXD accept it people, he was very determined. He pushed the base to the end...with no proofs...until he got bannedXDXD
 

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Yes they do, being able to analyze the situation quickly & calmly is a feat of intelligence. I'm not going to sit here explaining why that is because it should be obvious.

Hakugeki blinds the enemy with light, Itachi had his eye open but he couldnt see anything because of the brightness, which is the whole point behind his prediction skills.

Even without the aid of his sharingan Itachi is smart enough to know what kabuto is going to do before he doest it. I'm through arguing this point into the ground but If you wanna downplay Itachi's intelligence because you dont believe analytical skills are a part of someone's intelligence, then be my guest.

& im still waiting for that ninja who can dodge a kunai while impaired from all senses.



No, I called him an idiot, I admit it.

He came out of nowhere to call me an idiot because I didnt reply to your thread right away. I never had a problem with him & he goes to insult me? Of course I'm gonna insult him back. But tell me boy why would you discredit yourself by insultinge me as well? We were having a mature debate & you go on & call me an Idiot because I have a different opinion than you? Nice try but that spells immature to me.

He provided no argument & thought he had the right to call me an idiot, lol please...At least you have some sort of rebuttal, but why would you ruin your credibility by insulting me for no reason?? Please dude, if you wanna insult someone then go do it somewhere else.



Itachi read kabuto's feelings & used that to predict his movements. & this is intelligence. Itachi was able to figure out where kabuto was going to strike before he even did it. He used his logical thinking plus his reading of kabuto to predict what he will do next. He didnt use a damn sensing ability, he used his head.

Stop downplaying Itachi's intelligence :rolleyes:



Naruto gave an explanation that didnt help Itachi. Everything that naruto said was not new knowledge to him. As I said he immediately figured out that CBT had an attractive force, therefore naruto saying that it "draws" in the opponent would be of no use to him in figuring out the jutsu.

The fact that it took Itachi moments to find a counter for a powerful & terrifying jutsu is also proof of intelligence. He can quickly & calmly assess the situation & come up with a strategy to counter.

Deny facts all you want. Itachi's intelligence >>>>>>> gaara's, manga fact.




I dont care, I saw you say that gaara has more intelligence than Itachi, show me some F*cking scans to support your claim, otherwise you are on the severely losing side of this debate.

You havent even given me 1 shred of evidence to support yourself & you expect me to believe you? lol but no Lol



They are similar because they are predicting movements, but the way both of them predict movements is completely different.

Gai reads the body language of his opponents, thats how he can strike by looking at their feet. If gai was blinded by Hakugeki then he wouldnt be able to fight properly, he wouldnt have that prediction ability.

Now with Itachi, he doesnt read any body language, he read kabuto's feelings, meaning that he is smart enough to know how an enemy would act. The fact that Itachi can find out what a person is going to do without any sort of help from his other senses is pure proof of his intelligence as ive stated multiple times.

Gai's reading & Itachi's reading are different, without his senses then gai wouldnt be able to do what Itachi did, because it requires critical thinking, like a friggin chess game. You must be one step ahead of your opponent. Well Itachi was playing chess with kabuto, & what kind of game is chess? Its is a physical sport, or is it an intellectual sport? Ill let you decide ;)

Itachi WASNT BLIND, what are you talking about? He had he sight throughout the entire fight!! Kabuto mentioned that he could see through him, his feelings. This isn't intelligence, this is a personal skill that Itachi possesses, he gained it through experience of life and all the it offers. This is vert much a different type of "intelligence" that you are referring to. People call this a skill set, it's like asking a person what skills/ talents to you have? This is an internal ability that one possesses. Itachi, like Gai, gained certain skills to read an individual on different levels.

Now! Garra, since you want me to go into detail instead of looking it up, fought against Joki Boy. Did you not see the maneuver and and strategic genius displayed in that fight?!?!!

All of his abilities were himdered as being "useless" so not only did he need to find a way to attack successfully and find a weakness in his opponent. Garra didn't use something that he was dependent on (sand, hence Itachi's sharaingeng). But rather used another's instrument against them. He did all this and constructed this plan while fighting and defending others.
Look at that match again and you tell me have you ever seen such a degree of intellig
ence displayed before!!!


Also, i read your comment again and you stated, "lmfao you obviously don't know the real idiot here." Now this was directed towards anyone, but there was only one person opposing your argument and that was myself. Now you can act like that wasn't the case, but i highly doubt it, since you stated you had no issue with Pain.
 
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Naruto stated, that it pulls you in and once you're in you're dead. The only way he escaped was because the Kyuubi was rampage, hence using force to break free from the center. Therefore, this meant that the only way Naruto survived was from an powerful enough attack to actually break CT. However, obviously they wouldn't want to be in C to do this.

Itachi simply stated it had a gravitational pull, this is ambiguous. Obviously C has a strong pull, this wasn't hard to notice

(Note: I've said all along i can't post scans since I'm using my phone. Obviously haven't read through the thread and just wanted to jump into something)

Chapter 557 Garra vs Joki is pure intelligence with all against him while defending others.



This is when Itachi goes blind in ONE and this is after the fight. As the whole blind, non-sharingan argument rebuked easily and was quite obvious
 
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Itachi WASNT BLIND, what are you talking about? He had he sight throughout the entire fight!! Kabuto mentioned that he could see through him, his feelings. This isn't intelligence, this is a personal skill that Itachi possesses, he gained it through experience of life and all the it offers. This is vert much a different type of "intelligence" that you are referring to. People call this a skill set, it's like asking a person what skills/ talents to you have? This is an internal ability that one possesses. Itachi, like Gai, gained certain skills to read an individual on different levels.

Now! Garra, since you want me to go into detail instead of looking it up, fought against Joki Boy. Did you not see the maneuver and and strategic genius displayed in that fight?!?!!

All of his abilities were himdered as being "useless" so not only did he need to find a way to attack successfully and find a weakness in his opponent. Garra didn't use something that he was dependent on (sand, hence Itachi's sharaingeng). But rather used another's instrument against them. He did all this and constructed this plan while fighting and defending others. Look at that match again and you tell me have you ever seen such a degree of intellig ence displayed before!!!


Also, i read your comment again and you stated, "lmfao you obviously don't know the real idiot here." Now this was directed towards anyone, but there was only one person opposing your argument and that was myself. Now you can act like that wasn't the case, but i highly doubt it, since you stated you had no issue with Pain.

all gaara used was sand so i' mnot sure what that meant, and nothing he did was of much genius. It's only plot that gave him a convinient amount of gold dust. It doesn't take a genius to think to keep cool something that needs to be hot to explode. Even naruto could think up a strategy like that.

Kabuto literally said from the beginning of the fight that his body was designed to GG all of itachi's abilities.
Susano'o - Hydrification GG
Genjutsu - Close eyes
sharingan - White rage
all his jutsu - white rage making it too painful to move.

Itachi had to figure out how to beat a guy who GG'd his entire arsenal. Without killing him. Gaara never had that luxury. He could blow mizukage up and seal him while damaged. The fact is, itachi predicted kabuto's moves while he couldn't hear, see, or feel him. For that matter, that noise and pain would have made it even harder just to simply think...

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all gaara used was sand so i' mnot sure what that meant, and nothing he did was of much genius. It's only plot that gave him a convinient amount of gold dust. It doesn't take a genius to think to keep cool something that needs to be hot to explode. Even naruto could think up a strategy like that.

Kabuto literally said from the beginning of the fight that his body was designed to GG all of itachi's abilities.
Susano'o - Hydrification GG
Genjutsu - Close eyes
sharingan - White rage
all his jutsu - white rage making it too painful to move.

Itachi had to figure out how to beat a guy who GG'd his entire arsenal. Without killing him. Gaara never had that luxury. He could blow mizukage up and seal him while damaged. The fact is, itachi predicted kabuto's moves while he couldn't hear, see, or feel him. For that matter, that noise and pain would have made it even harder just to simply think...

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All of this and you fail tremendously. This is why you don't get involved in other people's arguments.

Kabuto stated that their gnejutsu was useless. Itachi knowing of Iz and it's ability, how ****ing hard was it to figure out to use that technique?

Please remove yourself, even dude knew better to mention something so stupid

Also, Garra used gold dust and his intelligence in knowing not only to slow Joki's boys movements but also from exploding. This is why the 2nd was about to state" how did to can up with such....plan but ended by calling him a Golden Child.

He was ablr to maneuver this while at the same time defending and attacking.
While adding gold dust in his own and converting this.into Joki Boy, while having to think of this cooling it down. This was a lot to think of, while guarding a field of shinobi. Also, his sand was USELESS, this is his offense and defense

And you compare Itachi knowing what technique to use and setting up images the entire fight, alongside Sasuke!!!!!??? Are you serious?? Please dismiss yourself
 
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Can't beat Haishirama, Minato, and we don't even know Tobiramas full power yet.
 

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Itachi WASNT BLIND, what are you talking about? He had he sight throughout the entire fight!!

Yes, hakugeki blinded Itachi for a moment. During that moment Itachi was able to predict where kabuto was going to strike, without the use of his sharingan.

Kabuto mentioned that he could see through him, his feelings. This isn't intelligence, this is a personal skill that Itachi possesses, he gained it through experience of life and all the it offers. This is vert much a different type of "intelligence" that you are referring to. People call this a skill set, it's like asking a person what skills/ talents to you have? This is an internal ability that one possesses. Itachi, like Gai, gained certain skills to read an individual on different levels.

You still don't get it, whether its a skill or not doesn't matter in the slightest. Because it is still part of his intelligence. Being intelligent is a skill/talent, this is blatantly obvious. Being intelligent is an internal skill that one possesses, & you gain intelligence through experience of life...So I dont see your point. You're saying that Itachi hasn't shown any intelligence feats then what do you call it when he's able to predict movement just from the info he has on his enemy? A skill feat (-_-)? A strength feat :)rolleyes:)? A talent feat (U_U)? Itachi is using his brain to work out where kabuto is going to strike next. Gai would be using his eyes still, or his ears, or his other senses to actually predict that way. Predicting through your senses/reflexes & predicting through thought process/memory alone are two completely different things. They both are skills but one is a skill of strength & speed while the other is a skill of intelligence. WHY is it so hard for you to believe this? Are you that much of a hater?

I seriously don't get why you want to continue downplaying Itachi's intelligence, he has a 5 in the databook for a reason.

You don't believe in hype? Well too bad because databook > you

Now! Garra, since you want me to go into detail instead of looking it up, fought against Joki Boy. Did you not see the maneuver and and strategic genius displayed in that fight?!?!!

Lol He put gold dust in his sand, whooptie do.

This still doesn't compare to Itachi's intelligence overall.

All of his abilities were himdered as being "useless" so not only did he need to find a way to attack successfully and find a weakness in his opponent. Garra didn't use something that he was dependent on (sand, hence Itachi's sharaingeng). But rather used another's instrument against them. He did all this and constructed this plan while fighting and defending others.

Look at that match again and you tell me have you ever seen such a degree of intelligence displayed before!!!

As I stated in my first paragraph, Itachi predicted kabuto's movements without his sharingan, he couldn't use his eyes because he was blinded by hakugeki.

Itachi lost his perceptual ability & was still able to figure out kabuto's next move & counter accordingly, gaara still had his senses & his sand & it took him longer to figure out what joki boy was.

Also, i read your comment again and you stated, "lmfao you obviously don't know the real idiot here." Now this was directed towards anyone, but there was only one person opposing your argument and that was myself. Now you can act like that wasn't the case, but i highly doubt it, since you stated you had no issue with Pain.

I wasn't referring to you, go back & read who I was quoting, I was calling the real Idiot the one who called me an Idiot first. I never called you an idiot & if you think I did then you need to read the reply more carefully ;)

Naruto stated, that it pulls you in and once you're in you're dead. The only way he escaped was because the Kyuubi was rampage, hence using force to break free from the center. Therefore, this meant that the only way Naruto survived was from an powerful enough attack to actually break CT. However, obviously they wouldn't want to be in C to do this.

Okay, none of this info is vital to Itachi figuring out how to stop it.


Itachi simply stated it had a gravitational pull, this is ambiguous. Obviously C has a strong pull, this wasn't hard to notice

Its not ambiguous, Itachi realized that there was a shift in gravity, something that bee & natruto couldn't pick up on right away.

The fact that Itachi can immediately figure out the properties of a jutsu with zero info before naruto (who already has info on it), is proof that Itachi can adapt quickly to situations & develop strategies based on what he's got.

Chapter 557 Garra vs Joki is pure intelligence with all against him while defending others.

This feat does not compare to Itachi's intelligence. He is able to counter a person/jutsu almost immediately. Having to protect civilians is not intelligence either..



This is when Itachi goes blind in ONE and this is after the fight. As the whole blind, non-sharingan argument rebuked easily and was quite obvious

If you read my response properly then you would notice that I'm talking about hakugeki, not izanami.



Intelligence is intelligence & there is no "different kind", you are merely making excuses at this point. Itachi's skill at reading an enemy & predicting their movements is a feat of intelligence whether you (or I) want it to be or not.
 

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Do you seriously need to prove him wrong? i would finish him here but i see no point. Itachi can beat some kage but not all that he mentioned
 

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In terms of overall strength, I will show you my point of view.

Hokage
Hashirama - Stronger
Tobirama - Possibly Stronger; By Current Feats, Weaker
Hiruzen - Possibly Stronger; By Current Feats, Weaker
Minato - Possibly Stronger; By Current Feats Weaker

Tsuchikage
Muu - Draw
Onoki - Close; Weaker

Raikage
Sandaime - Close; Weaker
Ay - Weaker

Kazekage
Sandaime - Weaker
Yondaime - Weaker
Gaara - Draw

Mizukage
Nidaime - Close; Weaker
Yagura - Possibly Stronger [Perfect Jin]; Weaker by Current Feats
Mei - Weaker
 
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