Full Kurama makes ~ 50 % of Complete Ten tails final form(beast, not tree)

[Everztar]

Well but considering both facts:

1. Half of Kurama matched five tailed beasts powers
2. Half of Kurama > Gyuuki

It is true, no matter from what perspective you will look at it.

It was not Shukaku but Gyuuki and by this Gyuuki meant that Tailed beasts with lesser tail could beat Tailed beasts with more tails using KKG or special ability of them instead of relaying on just sheer amount of chakra...

this is not entirely true... it's also a manga fact that a bijuu becomes a lot stronger when it has a jinchuuriki controlling the chakra.

okay, so the bijuus are stronger for each tail they have...
what if i said the power increase by tails isn't as high as you believe?
what if is said this is more legit then?

2 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 12 + 14 + 16 + 18 + 20 = 100

Kurama cannot be 53% stronger than Shukaku... that's just super mega wrong

edit;

Despite their close relation to one another, there is a significant amount of friction between the tailed beasts that caused them to part ways. One such cause was due to Kurama's belief that their strength was determined by the number of their tails.

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kurama thinks more tails = stronger
other 8 bijus think otherwise...

there is no mangafact stating that it's true? is there?

 

[VongolaX]

I don't know why people are saying kurama is half of the juubi, he's completely not...

When bm naruto and Hachibi were fighting the juubi, they were using equal amount of ttb's against the beast.

The juubi steamed role them with barely any difficulty, even kurama was afraid of that thing.

There are two important things we need to consider:

1) the bijuus ttb is better of with a jinchuuriki/alone without the control of Obito.
Obito using the five combine bijuu ttb isn't using it to its fullest potential, considering that he's
Using his chakra to output the technique.


2) Naruto recieved Roshi's chakra...


If a 100% kurama that was used by Tobi or Madara wasn't able to display this type of fire power, something must of happened.

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

Rin'negan isn't needed. Bijuu KKG with more chakra make up for it. Plus, superior Senjutsu grants him something above one aspect of Hagoromo's power. Current Naruto is already on Juubi Jin Hagoromo's level. One with more chakra, and therefore the ability to gather double the nature energy he has shown, plus utilize all the Bijuu KKG boosted by said Nature energy is a match for Hagoromo. Don't let KCMNaruto's blind sank for Hagoromo fool you. He still thinks Jin Hagoromo is a close match up for Kaguya, even though it's an evident stomp.

Naruto owns the 9 bijuu, Hagoromo created them.

His mastery of Yin-Yang is no joke¡ Naruto's abilities in this regards are derisory.


Also, I don't get why you say that Naruto has superior senjutsu to Hagoromo.

 

[ultraChalk]

If we're gonna be real here, he really does

 

[KCMNaruto]

this is not entirely true... it's also a manga fact that a bijuu becomes a lot stronger when it has a jinchuuriki controlling the chakra.

okay, so the bijuus are stronger for each tail they have...
what if i said the power increase by tails isn't as high as you believe?
what if is said this is more legit then?

2 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 12 + 14 + 16 + 18 + 20 = 100

Kurama cannot be 53% stronger than Shukaku... that's just super mega wrong

edit;

Despite their close relation to one another, there is a significant amount of friction between the tailed beasts that caused them to part ways. One such cause was due to Kurama's belief that their strength was determined by the number of their tails.

You must be registered for see images

kurama thinks more tails = stronger
other 8 bijus think otherwise...

there is no mangafact stating that it's true? is there?

Well you have point here, we know if it is just Half Kurama chakra or Half kurama chakra blended with Naruto's chakra amount matching Tailed beasts powers... but I do not see as big difference...

I don't know why people are saying kurama is half of the juubi, he's completely not...

When bm naruto and Hachibi were fighting the juubi, they were using equal amount of ttb's against the beast.

The juubi steamed role them with barely any difficulty, even kurama was afraid of that thing.

There are two important things we need to consider:

1) the bijuus ttb is better of with a jinchuuriki/alone without the control of Obito.
Obito using the five combine bijuu ttb isn't using it to its fullest potential, considering that he's
Using his chakra to output the technique.


2) Naruto recieved Roshi's chakra...


If a 100% kurama that was used by Tobi or Madara wasn't able to display this type of fire power, something must of happened.

^^ Good point

The Jinchurki power output > bijuu power output is the point I didn't take into consideration...

Well Idk

 

[Raekwon26]

More like 92% if were being honest.

 

[Benjamin King]

...

There is a difference between Naruto battling 5 Bijuu and Kurama battling them. Naruto was in control of BM, and a Jinchuuriki using the power of a Bijuu is far stronger than a Bijuu itself. There was Hachibi supporting him from 5 Tails and 3 Tails, otherwise, Naruto would have lost. And the Bijuu at the time were having a transmitted Chakra of theirs from the Gedo Mazo, so they were not at full power to be exact. Yin and Yang Kurama merged only gives more access to Chakra, not that it gives Naruto any new power or power comparable to the Juubi's, which is nothing but fallacious.

If you want to calculate the power of the Bijuu, you would look at the extraction used by the Akatsuki, and it took them 3 days to extract the Chakra of each Bijuu. That being said, each Bijuu have an equivalent power from the Juubi.​

 

[Djordje]

full kurama >>> all bijuus in power

 

[Transcendence]

Naruto owns the 9 bijuu, Hagoromo created them.

His mastery of Yin-Yang is no joke¡ Naruto's abilities in this regards are derisory.


Also, I don't get why you say that Naruto has superior senjutsu to Hagoromo.

He created them, but never had them within him to use their separate abilities. He only had the Juubi, therefore he doesn't have the separate powers of the Bijuu like Naruto does. Yin-Yang mastery holds no bearing in this match-up or comparison as besides Shadow Clones (a derivative of Yin-Yang Release) we have yet to see a Yin-Yang Release ability be continuously applied in battle (Well technically Onmyoudon). Naruto has superior Senjutsu. He has Hagoromo's on top of a Bijuu capable of gathering a lot more for him. Hagoromo doesn't have a Bijuu capable of doing that, as the Juubi isn't sentient.

 

[solo king]

Your math doesn't even make sense. 27+27=54 not 50.and this is why people are dubbed narutards

 

[Ashura San]

this is not entirely true... it's also a manga fact that a bijuu becomes a lot stronger when it has a jinchuuriki controlling the chakra.

okay, so the bijuus are stronger for each tail they have...
what if i said the power increase by tails isn't as high as you believe?
what if is said this is more legit then?

2 + 4 + 6 + 8 + 12 + 14 + 16 + 18 + 20 = 100

Kurama cannot be 53% stronger than Shukaku... that's just super mega wrong

edit;

Despite their close relation to one another, there is a significant amount of friction between the tailed beasts that caused them to part ways. One such cause was due to Kurama's belief that their strength was determined by the number of their tails.

You must be registered for see images

kurama thinks more tails = stronger
other 8 bijus think otherwise...

there is no mangafact stating that it's true? is there?

Hachibi says " You shouldn't judge someone's strength by the number of their tails."

Just because he said he shouldn't doesn't mean it's not true.

I wouldn't go as far as saying Full Kuruma = 56% of Juubi but it's foreshadowed the he's stronger than the rest.
The excuse that bijū are stronger w/ a Jin isn't accurate b/c Bee should have been able to do the same thing Naruto and Kurama did w/ Hachibi against the other tailed beast but instead he was appalled by how strong Kurama's TBB was.

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

So what you're saying is: Here are some numbers that i made up on the spot. Enjoy.

this killed me

 

[Nattana]

Kurama is 90%, Hachibi is 5% and leftovers are divided among the rest.

 

[VongolaX]

Well you have point here, we know if it is just Half Kurama chakra or Half kurama chakra blended with Naruto's chakra amount matching Tailed beasts powers... but I do not see as big difference...



^^ Good point

The Jinchurki power output > bijuu power output is the point I didn't take into consideration...

Well Idk

Thank you sir, I'll rep you in your next thread because I need to spread some around

 

[KCMNaruto]

Thank you sir, I'll rep you in your next thread because I need to spread some around

Thanks and no problem