Full Kurama makes ~ 50 % of Complete Ten tails final form(beast, not tree)

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys, I was a little bored so I came up with idea to make calculation how each Tailed beast could be percent part of The whole Juubi , here I go:

Yang Kurama was matching Chomei, Saiken, Kokuo, Isobu and Matabi combined Tailed beasts bombs while they were under Obito's control:

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^^Assuming Kurama was split in two EQUAL HALVES we got 27% for Yin and Yang Kurama. Full Kurama is 54 % of whole Juubi, yeah full Kurama is around 50% of The Juubi no matter how we look at it.

Thanks to that, we got that Chomei, Saiken, Kokuo, Isobu and Matabi added together have to match 27% or around it power level of Half Kurama.

27% *3(Yin Kurama, Yang Kurama,Chomei and Saiken and Kokuo and Isobu and Matabi ) = 81%

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^^ Gyuuki was afraid of how much even Half Of Kurama posses power, but still Gyuuki is hella strong as well.

Now considering that Shukaku has the smallest amount of chakra, not equaling being the weakest:

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^^ Here Gyuuki by strength means rather skills and use of them are equally or even more important then just sheer amount of chakra that why he said it.

Son Goku le's say has around 5 %
so Shukaku would be really 1%(maybe 2%) of Juubi chakra, it leaves Gyuuki: 100%-81%+5%+1%=13% which is more or less true as Gyuuki could hold his own along with Kurama against Incomplete Juubi who initialy has just ~ 40%(Full seven beasts + a bit of Kurama and Gyuuki chakra) of it full power but taking on nature chakra it most likely increased to even 50% of Juubi power or even more.

but still Full kurama was dangerous for it:

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^^ Obito was forced to relay on God Tree absorbing ability to get rid of Full kurama power output, so putting it little above 50%, less then 60% for sure is right I think.

The result:

Yang Kurama ~ 27% of Juubi
Yin Kurama ~27% of Juubi
Gyuuki ~ 13% of Juubi
Shukaku - 1% of Juubi
Matabi - 2% of Juubi
Isobu - 3% of Juubi
Son Goku - 5% of Juubi
Kokuo - 6% of Juubi
Saiken - 7% of Juubi
Chomei - 8% of Juubi

Thanks for reading U_U

 

[Transcendence]

So if Naruto gets the Full Kurama he's basically Jin Hagoromo level U_U

 

[Torche]

I have always thought this, but I believe it is closer to 40% or so because you have to account for the fact of the Gedou Mazou and how the Juubi naturally draws in more chakra. Also, Perfect Jins >> Controlled or alone Bijuu, so it explains why Naruto and Kurama matched the Bijuudama.

 

[KCMNaruto]

So if Naruto gets the Full Kurama he's basically Jin Hagoromo level U_U

very Close to him, but not yet still

Naruto's juubi power would be around 56% + a bit of each Tailed beasts chakra, let's assume 70%
Hagoromo's Juubi power was 100%, so it would be still quite big gap, but closer then before

I have always thought this, but I believe it is closer to 40% or so because you have to account for the fact of the Gedou Mazou and how the Juubi naturally draws in more chakra.

^^ True, but I meant Full Kurama, not Half of Kurama which would be around 28% of The Juubi.

Gedo mazou is just vessel, so it holds no power on it's own, unless use Rinnegan user chakra if he is connected to it.

The Juubi draws naturally nature energy lol, but the reason Juubi could draws that nature energy and become stronger as time passed was only due to possesing even a bit of Kurama and Gyuuki chakra, if not for this then Juubi would never reach it's final form

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

So what you're saying is: Here are some numbers that i made up on the spot. Enjoy.

 

[Shanks]

Nice Calculation there KCM i always wanted to know how much strength naruto will have if he has full kurama power .

Maybe last movie will show Naruto having full Kurama Power his strength will half of Juubi's Power .

+Rep for for good Presentation .:hooray:

 

[Transcendence]

very Close to him, but not yet still

Naruto's juubi power would be around 56% + a bit of each Tailed beasts chakra, let's assume 70%
Hagoromo's Juubi power was 100%, so it would be still quite big gap, but closer then before

Why do you always scale power based just on the amount of Juubi power they would have?

Even factoring in those numbers, Naruto also has the separate powers of the Bijuu's KKG which in alone is a power Hagoromo doesn't have, and he has the ability to gather more Nature energy further powering up his Senjutsu of the Six Paths to levels beyond Hagoromo's.

So Naruto's 70% as you say, comes with benefits that essentially equalizes him and 100% Hagoromo (Rin'negan is to Hagoromo as what the Bijuu's separate KKG are to Naruto, and the 30% differential between Naruto and Hagoromo can be made up by gathering far more natural energy via Full Kurama, who can gather twice as much as was shown in the recent chapter).

 

[KCMNaruto]

So what you're saying is: Here are some numbers that i made up on the spot. Enjoy.

^^ Nope I proved my calculations with manga facts. Of course numbers may slightly differ but it could be still good esitmation.

Nice Calculation there KCM i always wanted to know how much strength naruto will have if he has full kurama power .

Maybe last movie will show Naruto having full Kurama Power his strength will half of Juubi's Power .

+Rep for for good Presentation .:hooray:

Thanks buddy

Yeah I hope we will see that too

Why do you always scale power based just on the amount of Juubi power they would have?

Even factoring in those numbers, Naruto also has the separate powers of the Bijuu's KKG which in alone is a power Hagoromo doesn't have, and he has the ability to gather more Nature energy further powering up his Senjutsu of the Six Paths to levels beyond Hagoromo's.

So Naruto's 70% as you say, comes with benefits that essentially equalizes him and 100% Hagoromo (Rin'negan is to Hagoromo as what the Bijuu's separate KKG are to Naruto, and the 30% differential between Naruto and Hagoromo can be made up by gathering far more natural energy via Full Kurama, who can gather twice as much as was shown in the recent chapter).

First, these are skills which are not counted here as I mean just chakra wise
Well we don't know that about further Senjutsu powering up

If you are right, then yeah it is as you said, but if it is not, then still chakrawise Hagoromo is above in Juubi Jinchurki state.

Also skillwise Rinnegan and others skills put Hagoromo above, but I admit that KKG of Bijuu are really nice additiona and lethal as well.

 

[Torche]

very Close to him, but not yet still

Naruto's juubi power would be around 56% + a bit of each Tailed beasts chakra, let's assume 70%
Hagoromo's Juubi power was 100%, so it would be still quite big gap, but closer then before



^^ True, but I meant Full Kurama, not Half of Kurama which would be around 28% of The Juubi.

Gedo mazou is just vessel, so it holds no power on it's own, unless use Rinnegan user chakra if he is connected to it.

The Juubi draws naturally nature energy lol, but the reason Juubi could draws that nature energy and become stronger as time passed was only due to possesing even a bit of Kurama and Gyuuki chakra, if not for this then Juubi would never reach it's final form

Yeah, badly worded that's what I based the 40%+ off of. I agree.

 

[HashiraMadara SenjUchiha]

I notice a trend: YOU'RE ALWAYS 'BORED' BECAUSE I SEE YOUR THREAD EVERYDAY WITH INTRO "I WAS BORED" :|

 

[KCMNaruto]

I notice a trend: YOU'RE ALWAYS 'BORED' BECAUSE I SEE YOUR THREAD EVERYDAY WITH INTRO "I WAS BORED" :|

Sorry I always copy and paste first line or first two lines and i didn't notice it , anyway nice catch

 

[Nemus Uchiha]

Actually Its 56% if you are right

 

[KCMNaruto]

Actually Its 56% if you are right

Yeah, yeah but I put around 50% in the title to prove my point, but there is always possibility of making measurement error, so I wanted to anticipate it and not make thread stating it has to be as I calculated but the point is same as number can differ just slightly that is my point

 

[lanakui8]

Hello guys, I was a little bored so I came up with idea to make calculation how each Tailed beast could be percent part of The whole Juubi , here I go:

Yang Kurama was matching Chomei, Saiken, Kokuo, Son Goku, Isobu and Matabi combined Tailed beasts bombs while they were under Obito's control:

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^^Assuming Kurama was split in two EQUAL HALVES we got 28% for Yin and Yang Kurama. Full Kurama is 56 % of whole Juubi, yeah full Kurama is around 50% of The Juubi no matter how we look at it.

Thanks to that, we got that Chomei, Saiken, Kokuo, Son Goku, Isobu and Matabi added together have to match 28% or around it power level of Half Kurama.

Naruto didn't match the power of all 6, Son Goku had been sealed prior to the bijuudama clash, so it's BM Naruto matched the power of Chomei, Saiken, kokuo, isobu and matabi.

The result:

Yang Kurama ~ 28% of Juubi
Yin Kurama ~28% of Juubi
Gyuuki ~ 15% of Juubi
Shukaku - 1% of Juubi
Matabi - 2% of Juubi
Isobu - 3% of Juubi
Son Goku - 4% of Juubi
Kokuo - 5% of Juubi
Saiken - 6% of Juubi
Chomei - 7% of Juubi

Thanks for reading U_U

why is Shukaku's percentage 1%?
also, why does the power of the bijuu increase by 1% for each tail until it gets to the hachibi and kyuubi? Shouldn't there be some kind of consistent patter?

Here's what we do know:

1) chakras of all bijuu (1-9) added = 100%
2) chakras increase for each tail added
3) 50% kurama >/= 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7 tailed bijuu
4) 50% kurama > Hachibi

now if we assume that the ratio in which a tail increases chakra is constant from tail to tail +1, then like 50% kurama has far more chakra than the hachibi, the bijuu with one less tail should have less than half the amount of chakra from the next bijuu.

So if shukaku gets 1%, Matabi gets at least 2%. If Matabi gets at least 2%, then Isobu gets at least 4% (since Isobu has at least twice the amount of chakra as Matabi), and so on and so forth.

So 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 + 32 + 64 > 100, and that's only 7 of the beasts. So either Kurama's superiority to the hachibi is a special case, or Shukaku can't make up more than a fourth of a percent of the juubi's chakra.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Naruto didn't match the power of all 6, Son Goku had been sealed prior to the bijuudama clash, so it's BM Naruto matched the power of Chomei, Saiken, kokuo, isobu and matabi.

^^ True !, first for catching that detail and pointing it out me

why is Shukaku's percentage 1%?
also, why does the power of the bijuu increase by 1% for each tail until it gets to the hachibi and kyuubi? Shouldn't there be some kind of consistent patter?

Here's what we do know:

1) chakras of all bijuu (1-9) added = 100%
2) chakras increase for each tail added
3) 50% kurama >/= 2, 3, 5, 6, and 7 tailed bijuu
4) 50% kurama > Hachibi

now if we assume that the ratio in which a tail increases chakra is constant from tail to tail +1, then like 50% kurama has far more chakra than the hachibi, the bijuu with one less tail should have less than half the amount of chakra from the next bijuu.

So if shukaku gets 1%, Matabi gets at least 2%. If Matabi gets at least 2%, then Isobu gets at least 4% (since Isobu has at least twice the amount of chakra as Matabi), and so on and so forth.

So 1 + 2 + 4 + 8 + 16 + 32 + 64 > 100, and that's only 7 of the beasts. So either Kurama's superiority to the hachibi is a special case, or Shukaku can't make up more than a fourth of a percent of the juubi's chakra.

Well Shukaku is just 1 % or maybe 2% as Gyuuki stated that Shukaku hates Kurama for pointing this out every time to Shukaku, which means he has to have really little of Juubi overall chakra.

Well I doubt it is linear power increase, as considering the points you listed, which by the way are correct there is no chance for that to put Half Kurama matching 5 tailed beasts...

@ the bold part is the reason why it would not work... It can not be > 100%, as it does not make sense.

Also there was never shown big difference between other Tailed beasts besides Kurama and Gyuuki.

I fixed my numbers, so you can check it again. SOrry but I can not find better way to estimate their powers like that...

 

[Everztar]

The result:

Yang Kurama ~ 27% of Juubi
Yin Kurama ~27% of Juubi
Gyuuki ~ 13% of Juubi
Shukaku - 1% of Juubi
Matabi - 2% of Juubi
Isobu - 3% of Juubi
Son Goku - 5% of Juubi
Kokuo - 6% of Juubi
Saiken - 7% of Juubi
Chomei - 8% of Juubi

Thanks for reading U_U

what you mean is that...

1%
2%
3%
5%
6%
7%
8%
13%

and then comes kyuubi with 54% since Yin and Yang was once the same entity?

Shukaku said that power of the bijuus doesn't grow stronger by the tails. that they're all equally strong xD

i'd rather say they're 11.1% each

 

[KCMNaruto]

what you mean is that...

1%
2%
3%
5%
6%
7%
8%
13%

and then comes kyuubi with 54% since Yin and Yang was once the same entity?

Shukaku said that power of the bijuus doesn't grow stronger by the tails. that they're all equally strong xD

Well but considering both facts:

1. Half of Kurama matched five tailed beasts powers
2. Half of Kurama > Gyuuki

It is true, no matter from what perspective you will look at it.

It was not Shukaku but Gyuuki and by this Gyuuki meant that Tailed beasts with lesser tail could beat Tailed beasts with more tails using KKG or special ability of them instead of relaying on just sheer amount of chakra...

 

[GamakichiTheUsurper]

So if Naruto gets the Full Kurama he's basically Jin Hagoromo level U_U

Not even close because of the lack of the Rinnegan and mastery of the Rikudō techniques.

 

[KCMNaruto]

Not even close because of the lack of the Rinnegan and mastery of the Rikudō techniques.

^^ Exactly

 

[Transcendence]

Not even close because of the lack of the Rinnegan and mastery of the Rikudō techniques.

Rin'negan isn't needed. Bijuu KKG with more chakra make up for it. Plus, superior Senjutsu grants him something above one aspect of Hagoromo's power. Current Naruto is already on Juubi Jin Hagoromo's level. One with more chakra, and therefore the ability to gather double the nature energy he has shown, plus utilize all the Bijuu KKG boosted by said Nature energy is a match for Hagoromo. Don't let KCMNaruto's blind sank for Hagoromo fool you. He still thinks Jin Hagoromo is a close match up for Kaguya, even though it's an evident stomp.