ATTENTION: Mihawk fans Fuji is not a pure swordsman hemost of his power comes from his DF...Mihawk being the WGS is irrelevant in this fight even though I believe he would win high diff I just don't like y'all reasoning
[Discussion] fujtora vs mihawk
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A swordsman is anyone who consistently and regularly uses a sword. How does Fujitora use his power? Through a tool. What is his tool? A sword. That makes him a swordsman. I find it funny how people say "Oh a DF is the main thing he's not a swordsman", and yet, Kaku augmented his swordsmanship with his DF and has a completely separate category of ability(Rokushiki, a martial art) that he uses just as much as his swords, and is still considered a swordsman. Daz Bones even commented that his Devil Fruit powers, let me repeat, his DEVIL FRUIT POWERS, qualify him to be a swordsman, but he refuses to accept the title, not because his "swordsmanship" stems from a Devil Fruit, but because he prefers to be called an assassin.
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I refer to you my above post, most specifically, the part about Kaku.
By the way, boxing IS a martial art.
Who cares about titles? The point is if he's a pure SM or not. Having a DF would automatically effect your combat skills and you are obviously not a pure SM no matter how badly you think about it. Kaku with DF is not same as Kaku without DF even if he's a SM.
Just look at the difference b/w Law( without DF) & Zoro and Law (with DF) VS Zoro.
I hope you understand that DF ability can be a deciding factor in a fight.
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The point is there has been no mention of "pure swordsmen" in One Piece, it is a term and concept completely fabricated by this fandom. Oda wrote of Kaku being a swordsman multiple times despite using Rokushiki and his Devil Fruit just as much, and there was no correction. Kaku, nor Zoro, nor anyone period ever alluded to Kaku being unable to be called a swordsman, so that means this whole "pure swordsman" thing is bullshit.
DF can be a deciding factor in a fight, but not for Mihawk. He's the world's strongest swordsman period. That means whether you're a swordsman who uses nothing but a sword, a sword and Haki, a sword and Devil Fruit, a sword with Haki and a Devil Fruit, a sword with a martial art, or a sword with all of the above, Mihawk is better than you because he's just that damn good. End of story.
If you are considered to be the greatest SM then it means that you are better than anyone who depends on their sword play. Nothing implies that he can beat anyone who carries a sword even if they have other means to fight. It is same as saying that if WB went against Mihawk with a sword then he'd lose against him despite of having a DF which is foolish.
Zoro is a better SM than Law yet he'd lose against Law because of his devil fruit same goes for Mihwak.
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Whitebeard isn't a swordsman, so he doesn't apply to that concept. Picking up a sword doesn't make you a swordsman, like I said, it's consistently and regularly using a sword. If WB picked up a sword just to fight Mihawk once, that wouldn't make him a swordsman, so this point of yours falls apart on itself from the get go.
Zoro has better sword play, but he's not a stronger swordsman than Law because of Law's DF. Like I said, the fact that Kaku was called a flat-out swordsman despite using a martial art and a DF with his swords nullifies all of what you're trying to say. Is it or is it not a fact that Kaku was called a swordsman several times by more than one person the same way Zoro, Mihawk and Vista were called swordsmen despite using a DF and Rokushiki profusely with his swords? If you have a problem with it, take it up with Oda at this point.
As Ricky pointed out Fuji uses his sword to use his df power......so this is swordsmanship, I mean look at mihawk he launches sword attacks from a distance and sends slashes through the air so if we can consider this swordplay then we can consider Fuji using df with his sword swordplay as well.
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Exactly. How is launching the air as a projectile any different than launching gravity in concept?
Fujitora brings down one of the moons and crushes Mihawk, lol jk. It's not like Mihawk is going to have it easy either. Like I said before, Mihaw would most likely high-diff or possibly even extreme-diff. him.
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Agree with Cora-san here.
Mihawk against other swordsmen are kind of a bad choice. Since he's WSS and wins by default, not many are gonna bother coming up with HOW he wins cuz everyone just already knows he does.
Here's the thing though, someone might beat mihawk eventually and take his title, saying his is the greatest swordsman in the world just means he is until proven otherwise and series seems to be far from over which means fujitora COULD be stronger he just hasn't faced him in battle (as far as we know) to see if he could win yet. So the debate is can Fuji beat him and become the strongest, instead of saying mihawk wins by default why not try to compare what we've seen of them both so far and decide if he could beat him.
Fuji could be the strongest right now for all we know they just haven't fought yet, I mean one day some swordsman may beat mihawk and so that person could be stronger before they fight, but before they fight mihawk is still considered the strongest because no one has taken his title yet.
Unless of course the swordsman who beats him gains the power to beat him DURING the fight and he was actually weaker prior to engaging him in the specified battle.
