[Discussion] FTG vs Madara space-time ninjutsu.

[Spartan117]

I personally believe FTG is far better space-time ninjutsu than Madara's-space time ninjutsu. Madara space-time ninjutsu isn't all that only that it can be used with no sutra's other than that its nothing because, of the time limit on it 5mins. I am sure there was no limitations of using FTG for minato.

I think this why Naruto will learn this jutsu intime before he fights madara.

If madara did implant rinnegan he needs to get use to it... like how he told sasuke to wait for him to be sutomed with his new power.

Let me know your thoughts guys.

 

[JR4040]

I think the two are equals and its is as strong as it wielder

 

[Gamemode1992]

To me Minato is a example of the ninja in manga, he got skill, attitude, style, everything, and he is good enought to offer a good fight against Madara, but Madara is also dangerous for what i saw till know.. they're both good, but if i could choose, i would prefer the 5 minuts thing.. but to me, i prefer Minato!

 

[Felixman]

i think that they are both equals since madaras space time is a doujutsu coming from his sharingan it doesnt have a limit of times he can use it. SInce its in his bloodline limit it doesnt cost excessive chakra to use it (like kakashi)...as we have seen the FTG costs immense chakra hence minato running out of chakra so quickly against madara

 

[missing]

i prefer the FTG i really like the jutso but madara's is more....what can i say XD it's more XD FTG needs the kunais and madara's doesn't XD

 

[Sal]

Well,during Kushina's little flashback Minato was shown to have hit Madara(not FTG but the rasengan but you get what i mean).He used a second level to the FTG and if there is anything higher than level two then my money is on the FTG.

 

[Stampy]

FTG is faster than Madara's technique. It's a fact cause when Madara tried to send Minato away he failed cause Minato teleported elsewhere. Madara's teleporte is better in many other ways though (travel wise for example.) But against someone who knows the trade off, it can turn pretty dangerous with madara's... So I would choose the FTG that is (to me) more combat efficient.

 

[Faith]

Personally i like Flying thunder god alot
but each of these jutsu have their advantage.

For FTG - Super Fast o.o
For Madara's Teleport tech - Can travel further then FTG, can absorb attack

but minato beat madara in the battle of speed
so i prefer FTG as the user able to teleport away fast
for example like madara tried to suck minato but he used FTG to escape

 

[Regulus]

FTG, IMO Madara's jutsu is to limited for combat use agasinst skilled/fast shinobi. Konan's final attack against Madara is a great way to defeat it, while if you were using FTG you could of teleported somewhere else and win

 

[Akisha]

i think that they are both equals since madaras space time is a doujutsu coming from his sharingan it doesnt have a limit of times he can use it. SInce its in his bloodline limit it doesnt cost excessive chakra to use it (like kakashi)...as we have seen the FTG costs immense chakra hence minato running out of chakra so quickly against madara

Because of that I will chose Madara...

 

[Regulus]

Because of that I will chose Madara...

but if Naruto uses it the chakra consumption would be minimal compared to Minato's because of their relative chakra compacity

 

[Perkele311]

I like the FTG personally because of the seals they seem useful imho but still a limitation but one that can be worked into seals so its cool too.. But Madara probably has the best Time Space Jutsu because of the ability to travel and appear what appears to be anywhere and sucking people into the crazy space that looks like it came straight from bleach and I am not completely sure if the jutsu is just that bad ass or if Madara is just REALLY good at utilizing it, and a 5 minute limit doesn't sound to terrible unless you go up against Konan and 6 billion explosive tags =P

 

[lord niijima]

FTG in my opinion is better as compared to madara's space-time jutsu. also it can absorb attacks. if you could remember minato's fight with the kyuubi, he teleported a full blast of the full kyuubi...-not the half in naruto-... to a different location. he also teleported the full kyuubi along with himself out of konoha. with respect to speed, no one can doubt that it is ahead of madara's space-time jutsu. the only disadvantage of the FTG is that it requires the the usse of seals. but it has an advantage over the space-time jutsu because it doesn't have any time limit. also you can use so long as you have the chakra's needed. so in my opinion, it is a great combat technique and can be used flawlessly by a very skilled ninja such as namikaze minato.

 

[Regulus]

FTG in my opinion is better as compared to madara's space-time jutsu. also it can absorb attacks. if you could remember minato's fight with the kyuubi, he teleported a full blast of the full kyuubi...-not the half in naruto-... to a different location. he also teleported the full kyuubi along with himself out of konoha. with respect to speed, no one can doubt that it is ahead of madara's space-time jutsu. the only disadvantage of the FTG is that it requires the the usse of seals. but it has an advantage over the space-time jutsu because it doesn't have any time limit. also you can use so long as you have the chakra's needed. so in my opinion, it is a great combat technique and can be used flawlessly by a very skilled ninja such as namikaze minato.

And Naruto with practice because of his nearly unlimited chakra he shopuld be able to go for a long time using it

 

[silenceofthelambs]

The Flying Thunder God technique does indeed seem to be somewhat faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu. But it also has its limitations; and if we're talking about Minato and Madara, then many seem to forget that the Flying Thunder God technique is worthless in front of Izanagi. No matter how fast a ninja Minato is, if he has no clue as to what the forbidden illusion is (and it is very likely he does not), then he knows no counter to it, and will have a major problem on his hands. But Izanagi aside, just because Minato's Flying Thunder God technique seems to be faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu, doesn't necessarily mean it is better.

You see, it was not so much Minato's victory in chapters 502 and 503, but rather Madara's error. He did not know there was a second level to the Flying Thunder God technique, and it was that one mistake that Minato took great advantage of, allowing him to delay Madara and his plans for a certain time. But even still, both techniques are extraordinary creations, and I enjoyed seeing them used in action.

 

[Regulus]

The Flying Thunder God technique does indeed seem to be somewhat faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu. But it also has its limitations; and if we're talking about Minato and Madara, then many seem to forget that the Flying Thunder God technique is worthless in front of Izanagi. No matter how fast a ninja Minato is, if he has no clue as to what the forbidden illusion is (and it is very likely he does not), then he knows no counter to it, and will have a major problem on his hands. But Izanagi aside, just because Minato's Flying Thunder God technique seems to be faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu, doesn't necessarily mean it is better.

You see, it was not so much Minato's victory in chapters 502 and 503, but rather Madara's error. He did not know there was a second level to the Flying Thunder God technique, and it was that one mistake that Minato took great advantage of, allowing him to delay Madara and his plans for a certain time. But even still, both techniques are extraordinary creations, and I enjoyed seeing them used in action.

agreed, I think its the user of the jutsu that determines the level of said jutsu. PLus each jutsu would be better in different situations

 

[silenceofthelambs]

agreed, I think its the user of the jutsu that determines the level of said jutsu. PLus each jutsu would be better in different situations

I think so too.

 

[apple pie of doom]

In versatility I think Madara's Jutsu is far more advanced than FTG.
Besides even that, I am pretty sure if Madara wanted a fight to the death with Minato, Madara would've proven to be victorious.
But the jutsu itself I think Madara's is better, since it has many, many uses.

 

[Spartan117]

The Flying Thunder God technique does indeed seem to be somewhat faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu. But it also has its limitations; and if we're talking about Minato and Madara, then many seem to forget that the Flying Thunder God technique is worthless in front of Izanagi. No matter how fast a ninja Minato is, if he has no clue as to what the forbidden illusion is (and it is very likely he does not), then he knows no counter to it, and will have a major problem on his hands. But Izanagi aside, just because Minato's Flying Thunder God technique seems to be faster than Madara's space-time ninjutsu, doesn't necessarily mean it is better.

You see, it was not so much Minato's victory in chapters 502 and 503, but rather Madara's error. He did not know there was a second level to the Flying Thunder God technique, and it was that one mistake that Minato took great advantage of, allowing him to delay Madara and his plans for a certain time. But even still, both techniques are extraordinary creations, and I enjoyed seeing them used in action.

Minato has won that fight fair and square. Madara did not know there was lvl 2 to FTG minato did not know nothing about madara before the fight. However madara did. FTG proved to be deadly against madara.... I don't see why it do not stand a chance against izanagi... Izanagi is cast on oneself not the target (minato)... Madara can only use his left since for Izanagi because its a genjutsu. After seeing the fight between Minato and Madara you clearly the analytical skills of minato and how he was able to produce a counter attack.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

Minato has won that fight fair and square. Madara did not know there was lvl 2 to FTG minato did not know nothing about madara before the fight. However madara did. FTG proved to be deadly against madara.... I don't see why it do not stand a chance against izanagi... Izanagi is cast on oneself not the target (minato)... Madara can only use his left since for Izanagi because its a genjutsu. After seeing the fight between Minato and Madara you clearly the analytical skills of minato and how he was able to produce a counter attack.

Izanagi is an illusion cast on oneself; meaning if Minato were to strike Madara with his Flying Thunder God technique, all he would be hitting is his own dream. I'm not saying Minato didn't win, all I'm saying is if Madara used Izanagi, defeating the Fourth would have been much easier.