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I am not claiming the clone techniques are summons. He made the clones before he went to fight pein in Konoha. When he got there he was already in sage mode while the clones he made we were back on the mountain in the frog village. While in the village they stayed in their meditation state to remain in sage mode. When Naruto's sage mode wore off, he would summon one of the clones from the mountain and then end the shadow clone jutsu to regain his sage mode. I did not say that making shadowclones was a summoning.
Like I said though. I don't think your wrong that they are 2 different techniques otherwise everyone would use it. Summoning is super common but FTG isn't and it is incredibly OP. The fact that it doesn't use blood and a person to place their hand on the scroll is enough to prove it isnt the same thing. I just think you are arguing your point the wrong way.
I don't understand what the Yin and Yang thing has to do with anything. From what you are saying the Yin and Yang is purely speculation in the first place and there is no merit to it in the first place.
I am not arguing your point about FTG and summoning because as what you have said that they are two different techniques and you are correct. That is what I am explaining all along and we may be in the same boat.
I'm answering to all questions on the other thread. There are those who say FTG and Summonings are the same so Minato and the other summoners have also the same affinity since they are both using S/T techs.
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