Ftg And Sharigan Apart Sasuke Wins Minato

[manje11]

From what i can see it seems like there are tags on naruto. Possible ftg tags because im not sure why people keep saying that was minato's base speed. It hasnt bee implied in the manga whilst tobi on the other hand actually implies that it was ftg

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Dude, those are explosive tags that tobi put on the sheet don't you see the smoke, that's why it exploded and Minato had to jump, and baby naruto wasn't in a sheet when he was holding him outside. reread chapter 501 and make sure you're paying attention to details. and also check

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. Putting out picture yet you can't see proof, you're such a troll.

 

[Dratasy]

i agree minato wins but u need to realize something. There is no such thing as "teleportation". teleportation is movement which is SO FAST that it appears as if you teleported to the area. it appears as if you never moved from point A to point B. there is no such thing as just dissapearing and reappearing. even tobi uses extremely fast movement to go from one place to another. Remember when zetsu and tobi were going somewhere (i truly cant remember) but zetsu told him "i forgot you are faster than i am" but they both appear to be teleporting. hence teleportation is merely extremely fast movement which cannot be seen with your eyes. Even in dragon ball z gokus instant transmission was shown that he was actually flying at hyper speed while doing so not just appearing and reappeaing. I just wanted to make that clear

Actually yes it is a teleport, teleporting itself is moving from one place to another, Tobi for example does just that, he goes into his ST technique and then pops up wherever he needs to go, Minato's works just the same however it requires seals and reverse summoning, which is also what the frogs did for Naruto and what they did for Tsunade & A in a recent manga chapter, teleporting and moving fast are two different things

As for Instant Transmission in DBZ preformed by Goku, that is also teleporting, the only time it's ever been shown that he moves really quick when doing it was in the movie "The Return Of Cooler" which completely is false when it comes to the show, movies are not the actual storyline, they don't follow it at all, meaning you just provided inaccurate information on Instant Transmission.

One proof I can state as to the movie not following DBZ series storyline, is both Goku & Vegeta can go SSJ1, which means this is sometime after the androids attack which also means this is after Goku's heart virus is better, and we all know the second he got better from his heart virus, Vegeta & Trunks went into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, and let's say they didn't go into it yet (Also Gohan is still a little kid at this point, meaning he hasn't went in the HBTC) which leaves the question as to why they left Earth to leave Trunks to handle the androids and Cell all alone, where as in the movie "Super Android 13" Gohan is still a kid (Meaning no HBTC yet), the androids are all dead, and Trunks is the same age he was when he first arrived to the past. So yeah, movies do not follow DBZ storyline (Oh and Vegeta, Trunks, and Goku can all go SSJ1 in this movie, androids are all gone, yet Gohan can't go SSJ1 or SSJ2, and Trunks+Vegeta+Goku can't go into USSJ1&USSJ2)

 

[-Hades-]

Who says Sasuke can win this is either a fanboy, or a hater...

1.In Sasuke's fight against Itachi, Sasuke had the advantage of fighting in a building, where at one point he lured Itachi on the roof, and he went one level below, making it look like he was targeting Itachi with his fire jutsu, while he was only using it to prepare Kirin. Against Minato, if they are fighting in a plain open field he would just have to shoot fire jutsus at the sky which:1.would be suspicious, and Minato would see he is planning something and 2.he would be opened for attacks.

2.Without the Sharingan he can't use Chidory (he could use variations of it) or rather said he shouldn't, if he tries he's a goner for sure... Minato could easily dodge and counterattack.

3.Don't forget that Minato also has the Toad summons... yea Sasuke does too, but without the Sharingan he can't control Manda (if you were to consider this)

4.You say that Minato only has the rasengan, but you tend to forget just how powerful a regular rasengan is.

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[ex killer]

What i will say is that where did you guys get the idea that minato used his base speed to collect naruto because it isnt implied in the manga and from what i can see its ftg tags on naruto

its a bomb tags put by tobi on naruto not ftg tags.

it looks like your trying to get excuses for minato base speed

 

[sage108]

minato wins notin more

 

[SmartNoob]

lol he wont even see minato coming without sharingan
you need amaterasu for kirin and it takes time to change the weather
he has wind chakra so chidori is no use
minato learned sealing from uzumaki the clan known for their sealing tech (perhaps you dont know what sealing is) hence you say minato's sealing wont affect sasuke
sword tech is beaten by minato's kunai tech
you forgot space time ninjutsu (not ftg) like space time barrier

 

[vinsence]

Even if Minato base speed was not as every one says he still has far more battle experaince the Sasuke. He does not need ftg so summon toads. He does not need it for most of everthing he does, Sasuke on the other hand...

 

[Nick Wolf]

What i will say for a start is that to the people saying without the sharigan sasuke is nothing need to think again. The reason is he activated it at a young age and due to this half of his techniques have been molded around his bloodline limit. If he didnt have the sharigan he would still be strong regardless.

Also the people saying sasuke needs the sharigan to use chidori clearly do not read the manga. He can use them regardless of the sharigan, its just that it leaves the opponent open if it misses. Also not sure where you guys got the idea of him not being able to use kirin.

Anyway minato even without ftg is pretty fast but obviously not as fast. Arguable 4.5/5 similarly sasuke aswell speed stat is 4.5/5, therefore i do not think speed would be an issue.

Without the sharigan im sure sasuke can react accordingly to minato's base speed and if in contact use chidori nagashi and his other fire/lightning techs. Ill admit sasuke is rather limited, but then again so is minato without ftg.

This fight can go either way imo

That's because u assume that they both have the same base speed. Minato is way faster that sasuke. Also Sasuke's chidori without sharingan is open counter attacks.. just like Kakasi's before he got his sharigan..

 

[danyal]

i am sure minato didnt only use ftg in battles...

 

[Baka Sennin]

this is basically a complete loss for sasuke, taking away the thing that makes a character basic is completely disadvantageous. take away lee's taijutsu, neji's byakugan, sakura;s strength, naruto's bijuu, and shino's bugs. you're left with a bunch of basic ass ninjas..i'm not even sure they're still ninja at that point. why not take ms from sasuke so at least hhe as a chance? this was sooo slated from the beginning lol.

agree, but naruto was still able to destroy 3 of kakuzu's hearts and take pain further than anyone ever had without his bijuu. he would still be an excellent ninja, although nowhere near as powerful as he is now i'm sure.

 

[sunnex]

Sasuke is nothing without his sharigan..

 

[Baldy]

Thunderbolt hater of Minato? Seriously, haters are almost as annoying as fanboys.

 

[Savior..]

Your title makes no fucking sense, come back when you learn proper english.

 

[Arun0707]

Remove ftg and sharigan and sasuke wins minato


Since both of them don’t have their strong powers both are at disadvantages here are my notes why sasuke wins.


1.Kirin;Minato normal average speed is not enough to dodge kirin with ftg it Is Arguable so no he cant kirin beats the speed of noise and zetsu says it is 1000 of a second before it occurs so it is hard to dodge


2.Rasengan :Sasuke has chidori to counter


3.Sasuke and minato base speed wont be that hard apart sasuke was always quick and of good techniques so no body wins this part


4.Barriers:Minato seals were not said to be first class so it can be found or dodged or missed or anything but sasuke wont be affected


5.Kenjutsu:Sasuke sword titled kusanagi minato will have a tough time with that

Don’t assume that minato has hokage has other techniques I can as well say 'sasuke kun has so stop that bull




6.God seal death for them indvidually

well u r somehow 30% right
bt there is more amazing point u left ..
1. kirin is ok bt minato without ftg was also enuf very fast to dodge sasuke as mentioned by kakashi himself to yamato during kakuzu fight,

2. during hospital timings, sasuke himself scared of naruto rasengan when it blows backside of tank

3. minato was sole intelligent person mentioned by third hokage himself.. so minato will come to solution very early to sasuke..

4, barriers were weak for ftg not for others.. yet namikaze clan deatils are not mentioned .. but minato was still expert in barriers.. though becoming hokage...

5. kenjutsu ... u r right.. minato kunai style was very tough to dodge.. minato would have come up with ease solution to counter it.

6. god seal death minato would use if sasuke is 5 to 6 times tougher to minato.. otherwise minato won't use it..

so overall minato would have defeat it to sasuke...

 

[LolaxXx]

as I previously stated...Minato Wins

 

[Naruto UzRinneganMaki]

Remove ftg and sharigan and sasuke wins minato


Since both of them don’t have their strong powers both are at disadvantages here are my notes why sasuke wins.


1.Kirin;Minato normal average speed is not enough to dodge kirin with ftg it Is Arguable so no he cant kirin beats the speed of noise and zetsu says it is 1000 of a second before it occurs so it is hard to dodge


2.Rasengan :Sasuke has chidori to counter


3.Sasuke and minato base speed wont be that hard apart sasuke was always quick and of good techniques so no body wins this part


4.Barriers:Minato seals were not said to be first class so it can be found or dodged or missed or anything but sasuke wont be affected


5.Kenjutsu:Sasuke sword titled kusanagi minato will have a tough time with that

Don’t assume that minato has hokage has other techniques I can as well say 'sasuke kun has so stop that bull




6.God seal death for them indvidually

but the important thing is: Minato has ftg and sasuke has sharingan.
your argument is invalid because you can't just take their ability off as you want in real story

 

[EL MAGNIFICO]

Sasuke will lose cuz he is nowhere near Minato's base speed ...
without sharingan , even lee can defeat sasuke

 

[Onion Soda]

Sasuke will lose cuz he is nowhere near Minato's base speed ...
without sharingan , even lee can defeat sasuke

yup!! even lee!

 

[777skills]

Nice. But...
Minato is called yellow flash because when he moves its lke a flash, if it were a tele that got him that name it would make no sense since when u teleport you dont travel you just disappear then reappear leaving no "flash"

Kirin w/o sharingan is impossible, doing a sht load of fireball jutsu wont burn long enough or be hot enough to create the environment for thunderclouds (i made a thread about this) also lets assume that he could create the environment for it, He NEEDS chidori to do Kirin and Kakashi has stated that the only reason they are able to do chidori is becuase of thier Lightning affinity and Sharingan. Remeber hidori is lighting minipulation and there are extremely few people that can minipulate elemental jutsu w/o a kekegenkai, So no chidori = no karin.

Nice try though, Minoto w/o FTG beats Beats sasuke, infact sasuke stands a better chance w/ sharingan than minato w/o FTG.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

minato's speed is not average ...he is a fastass lol...
how can u conclude that death demon seal's creator(one of the toughest seal to perform) is not good at seals and all