[VS] Fourth Kages vs Second Kages

[Bogard]

You have a point, I guess. But even if he found i, he cant destroy it. Clam has good durability, that even Onoki needed his Doton heavy arm to break it.​

I'm pretty sure

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could break it

 

[Bronze]

The Clam can move every time it feels suspicious of Minato. So, every time Minato gets close to its location, Clam moves further away. Not taking account of what the Mizukage would do.​

 

[DMT]

A can win against Mu as he did in the manga by blitzing him every time.

1- muu half power .. didn't use jinton

2- kabuto made him in front of madara to save him ..

 

[KidGamer65]

What else could it possibly be? There's generic chakra sensing, then there's what Tobirama and Minato posses - which by all logic must be some form of contact sensing.

Doesn't change anything anyway.

Don't know, but us not knowing what it is doesn't mean you can assume its contact sensing, especially when he isn't making contact with his target.

 

[Nattana]

Team 2 mid diff.

 

[Bogard]

Don't know, but us not knowing what it is doesn't mean you can assume its contact sensing, especially when he isn't making contact with his target.

One thing is for sure. Tobirama wasn't tailing his targets via their chakra, but their movements

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Notice he says from the way they are tracking us

Tracking is an act or process of following someone. So he supposed they were kumogakure bounty hunters from the way they were following them, in other words, from their movements. It's for that reason i think it's possibly related to ground vibrations

Though Minato was capable to identify the use of shadow clones through this method, which implies he can localise the chakra type as well(considering the shadow clones have equal amount of chakra with the original)

 

[KidGamer65]

One thing is for sure. Tobirama wasn't tailing his targets via their chakra, but their movements

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Notice he says from the way they are tracking us

Tracking is an act or process of following someone. So he supposed they were kumogakure bounty hunters from the way they were following them, in other words, from their movements. It's for that reason i think it's possibly related to ground vibrations

Though Minato was capable to identify the use of shadow clones through this method, which implies he can localise the chakra type as well(considering the shadow clones have equal amount of chakra with the original)

He doesn't need special sensing to know that he's being followed. Chakra sensing allows you to know your enemies position, and if that chakra signature is getting closer and closer, you can conclude that you are being followed.

 

[Bogard]

He doesn't need special sensing to know that he's being followed. Chakra sensing allows you to know your enemies position, and if that chakra signature is getting closer and closer, you can conclude that you are being followed.

But with chakra sensing, you can identify chakra typs. He would not have "guessed" who it was if he was tailing them with chakra sensing considering he knows them and their tracking methods, so must know their chakra typ as well. But here he was only supposing it was them

 

[KidGamer65]

But with chakra sensing, you can identify chakra typs. He would not have "guessed" who it was if he was tailing them with chakra sensing considering he knows them and their tracking methods, so must know their chakra typ as well. But here he was only supposing it was them

You have a point.

 

[Draegod]

Whether he can "track" the clam or not doesn't matter. Why? Because he would still be in a constant genjutsu! The Genjutsu would tell him the clam was some where else. That is what Genjutsu does, it fools the mind. Plus the fact Water bullets will be being fired the moment he lets his guard down to touch the ground, then focus on where every one is. Plus the fact their are multiple OPP's to "track", so how would he know what is what? And Like what's his name said, the clam would move every time, then minato would have to place his finger on the ground again and over and over in an endless cycle because the clam would be moving constantly.

Basically Minato/Tobirama cannot combat the Mizu with that standard tactic and think it would be successful ever! The mizu will not sit and let him keep placing his finger on the ground when he can shoot water bullets constantly and Minato would never know till he is hit.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Second generation wins.

Minato > Mu = 2nd Mizukage >/= Tobirama > A > 4th Kazekage

 

[Gold Lightning]

Whether he can "track" the clam or not doesn't matter. Why? Because he would still be in a constant genjutsu! The Genjutsu would tell him the clam was some where else. That is what Genjutsu does, it fools the mind. Plus the fact Water bullets will be being fired the moment he lets his guard down to touch the ground, then focus on where every one is. Plus the fact their are multiple OPP's to "track", so how would he know what is what? And Like what's his name said, the clam would move every time, then minato would have to place his finger on the ground again and over and over in an endless cycle because the clam would be moving constantly.

Basically Minato/Tobirama cannot combat the Mizu with that standard tactic and think it would be successful ever! The mizu will not sit and let him keep placing his finger on the ground when he can shoot water bullets constantly and Minato would never know till he is hit.

Who said those water bullets can be constantly fired? I only saw one shot fired. Suigetsu needed 2 hands just to fire 2 successive shots. It's not a machine gun. Why can't clones do the sensing? It doesn't have to be minato on his own.

Probably shouldn't have restricted Shima. Didn't think she'd be necessary since I gave them the 4th Kazekage. But for some reason people think he can't find the clam -__-

 

[AizenSosuke]

Team fourth high diff. Minato can probably sense Mū. I don't think Tobirama can blitz Minato and Ay. He could blitz Kazekage but he can use gold dust to defend himself. Fourths will somehow find a way to stop genjutsu. Jinton is a trouble but ay and Minato will dodge it. Minato can mark Kazekage and tele him away if Mū uses jinton on him. Though if Tobirama manages to mark kazekage before Minato can then he can just tele kazekage near Mū and Kazekage will be turned to dust. But yeah, fourths takes this imo.

 

[KingHashirama]

2nd Generation...... dude. Those mofos were too op..

 

[TobiramaWaterStyle]

I'm pretty sure Yagura should be included and if he is it's a pretty lopsided match.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I'm pretty sure Yagura should be included and if he is it's a pretty lopsided match.

Didn't include yagura because a perfect Jin would've been too much

 

[DMT]

Didn't include yagura because a perfect Jin would've been too much

Yes

4 vs 3 not a fair fight ..