Fourth Databook Stats!

WyfBath

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What? Are up to date? Also Sasuke ''stupidly wasting chakra'' is a dumb statement, people are referring to his fight with Danzo and that's exactly when Sasuke had to go all out, it was the only way to outsmart Danzo and defeat izanagi.
Yes I am up to date. It doesn't matter that he's back on the fence now, he was still stupid enough to go against his Itachi's wishes. And at what point did I mention Danzou? I'm talking about in general.
He almost went blind because he couldn't adequately monitor his health, a shining example of stupidity.
 

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Yes I am up to date. It doesn't matter that he's back on the fence now, he was still stupid enough to go against his Itachi's wishes. And at what point did I mention Danzou? I'm talking about in general.
He almost went blind because he couldn't adequately monitor his health, a shining example of stupidity.
''Stupid enough to go against Itachi's wishes'' Itachi's wishes = The whole clan's wishes? Itachi was not the only one who had to die because of Konoha, also because of Sasuke's Uchiha blood, hatred easily takes over him as Tobirama explained.

He almost lost his vision because of stupidity? You do understand he fought all the Kages in one day, and before that he had to take on perfect jinchuuriki. Also Sasuke always had the option of implanting Itachi's eyes to obtain EMS as he did.

You're not giving examples of intelligence.
 

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kabuto overration thread? Kabuto overration thread. He has higher nin, gen, stamina, and hand seal than Obito? Rofl.
I smell an Obito fan boy. It took two Uchihas to defeat Kabuto. If Itachi wasn't and Edo during that match, he would have been dead 10 times over. Kabuto would have destroyed Obito, especially with his Edo-Tensei Technique. And let's not forget that Kabuto was compared to Kakashi in part 1. Look at Obito and Kakashi now... they are evenly matched. If you really think Obito is so much stronger than Madara, Hashirama, Kabuto, Itachi, Nagato, The Saanin... you are sadly mistaken.
 

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Nice stats. I'm a fan of the databook stats, so I think you did some over-estimating on some of the stats:

1. Naruto's Genjutsu stats should be higher. 2 points is what he has according to the 3rd databook, but he has become a perfect jinchuuriki since then, which should get him around a 3.5.

2. Sasuke's stamina is a little too high...a 4.5 is just barely below Naruto, which we know has to be wrong because Naruto can outlast Sasuke like 3x in terms of stamina. Kakashi himself said that Naruto had at least 4x his chakra while Sasuke on the other hand had half of Kakashi's chakra in Part 1.

3. I don't mean to sound like a Sakura hater (which I am not) but she was given a 26 in the third databook (which covers the beginning of Shippuden)...this includes stats from her fight with Sasori. Yet you have given her a 32 and so far from what we can see, the only improvement she has gotten is from the last chapter. Not enough to boost ALL of her stats by 1-2 points, which you have done. I'd give her a 29...split 3 points here and there for her last power-up. ***Note that this analysis was made mostly from the information given compared to the other databooks -- we're not talking about your own 'scale' on rating Naruto characters; that being said, I believe 6 points up from the databook covering the beginning of Shippuden for a character with very little development in terms of power is a little overdoing it.

But other than that, good job! I think this has been done before, though.
I have to agree. *_*
 

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''Stupid enough to go against Itachi's wishes'' Itachi's wishes = The whole clan's wishes? Itachi was not the only one who had to die because of Konoha, also because of Sasuke's Uchiha blood, hatred easily takes over him as Tobirama explained.

He almost lost his vision because of stupidity? You do understand he fought all the Kages in one day, and before that he had to take on perfect jinchuuriki. Also Sasuke always had the option of implanting Itachi's eyes to obtain EMS as he did.

You're not giving examples of intelligence.
Neither do you.

HE WAS RECKLESS
TOBI TOLD HIM TO REST
HE DIDN'T WANT
TOBI SAVED HIS ASS OR NARUTO AND CO COULD CAPTURE HIM
/ARGUMENTS

Sorry, but I hate when people doesn't understand logic and go trying acting cool without any proof.
 

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Hey there! It's been such a long time since the Third Databook was released. I think that one was released in 2008. We are now in the year 2013 and we still have not had a new databook yet... 5 years, people! I am always curious as to what the stats would be currenly for the characters. For this reason, I have taken it upon myself to create my own stats. I will look at the stats from the Third Databook and raise the numbers up where is needed. Last time I did this, there was some dispute (isn't there always?) about my stats for Team 7. I will redo those and I will put up stats for the Konoha 11, Konohamaru, Nagato, Konan, Obito and Kabuto. My reasoning for not doing Madara, Hashirama and Tobirama is because they would easily be 38-40's at best. If you have any disputes over what I put down, don't tell me to raise up or lower so and so's stats. It it too much work since everyone has different opinions. Also, if a character in the series hasn't had that much screen time or hasn't done that much fighting, it is hard to discern and gauge what their actual stats would be. Again... this is just my opinion. If you think a character's stats should be lower or higher, just create your own table within this thread over what you think that character's stats should be. It would be cool if we can make our own kinda databook for the base. If you guys want, you can add to this with more characters that I haven't listed. Just message me the name of the character you want listed, stats and give me a picture of the character and I will add on to this. Here we go again:


Naruto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth54.524555232.5
That is mine version about possible characters stats in Databook IV:

Naruto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third43.5233.53.551.526
Fourth4(+1)3.5(+1)2(+1.5)3(+1)3.5(+1)3.5(+1.5)51.5(+1)33.5
ExplanationNaruto mastered Rasengan left by Fourth Hokage to him, mastered Shadow clone technique, many varriants of Rasengans, Bijuudama, chakra arms, Sumonning no JutsuAfter Sage treninng in Myobokuzan, Naruto didn't just show new feats in Sage mode but improved almost all his stats in base state. Naruto was keeping his own against Deva Path for moment, then fought against Karui and Omoi and outsmarted them(Kakashi has 4.5 in Taijutsu)Since Kurama agreed to copperate with Naruto, Naruto became perfect Jin, his chakra control improved as well as Kurama won't mess up with Naruto's chakra circular system as before he did.(Gai has 3 in Genjutsu)He grown up a lot in this war, using strategy againt Edo Raikage. Naruto proved to use strategy with clones against Pein. He shown some inteligence where he noticed way to stop Edo Jinchurki Obito's six paths of Pein.Naruto strength increased after Sage trening, besides Naruto was always strong physically. One feat he shown when he free yourself from Preta Path grasp.Naruto's speed increased a lot after Sage trening, proved when Omoi and Karui attacked him, Sakura and Sai. Naruto was able to save Sakura before Kakashi(who suffered some side effects of using Kamui)Pretty obvious, there is nothing need to addNaruto shown to be able summon giant frog without any effort(he was in KCM, but still we can consider that he can). Naruto's chakra control is almost perfect now, so doing handseals would be easier. Besides his intelligence risen up too as well as he calm down yourself thanks to meditating while treining in Sage Arts.Summary of all stats simple.

Remember that I am only talking about base Naruto, no Sage mode or Kyuubi chakra in any form involved, only improvements he got in base state from these special states !

Sasuke:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]35.5[/td]

Sasuke:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third53.543.53.54.53.5431.5
Fourth53.5(+1)4(+0.5)3.5(+1)3.54.53.5(+0.5)4(+0.5)35
ExplanationMany chidori varriants, Sussano, Amaterasu, Tsyukomi(?), Fire release techniques etc.Sasuke was fighting in Taijutsu against Itachi and was able to keep up with him(Although he had Orochimaru absorbed in him). Later Sasuke was able to keep up with Kakashi in taijutsu for brief moment when he was almost blind(Kakashi has 4.5 in Taijutsu)Obito commented that Sasuke's genjutsu may be stronger against Danzo but not on Itachi's level. Sasuke improved in Genjutsu field since he has activated MS.Sasuke is very clever shinobi, he was overloaded with hate which caused that he didn't make use of his mind too often, but now he is good again and lost his hate, burden. He gonna prove that I am sure.Sasuke's physical strength wasn't shown to improved so I didn't change it.Sasuke's speed didn't change as well as in example aboveSasuke's stamina grown up a bit as shown against Raikage then Danzo fight. Sasuke was using so more techniques and was still standingSasuke's hand seals skills improved quite a bit Summary of all stats simple.

Sakura:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth443.555334.532
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third333.54332.5426
Fourth3(+1)3(+0.5)3.54(+0.5)3(+2)3(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)431
ExplanationMedical techniques, chakra enhanced attacks.Sakura's Taijutsu improved a bit.Sakura's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change for now.Sakura is very clever kunoichi. She was very good at learining in academy and shown as example to class how they should learn by Iruka. Sakura shown great knowledge about Medical herbs, poisons etc. as well as she proved to think clever in battle(against Sasori). Sakura's physical strength was shown to be very great, no doubt that she deserves 5.Sakura's speed may improved a bit, but nothing by far, just plus 0.5 I think.Sakura's stamina may increased a bit, but nothing significant to notice at first look.Sakura's hand seals skills didn't improve at all.Summary of all stats simple.

Hinata:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth3.5
[td]4[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]24[/td]

Hinata:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third33.52.53.51.52.52321.5
Fourth3(+1)3.5(+0.5)2.53.5(+0.5)1.5(+1)2.5(+1)2(+1)3(+0.5)27
ExplanationHinata trained very hard and developed Lion chakra shaped fists, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm. Hinata's Taijutsu improved thanks to her training with Neji.Hinata's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Hinata is clever kunoichi. She was calm, shy and good at learining in academy and shown . Hinata shown good knowledge about chakra, techniques etc.Hinata's physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Hinata's speed may improved, as she was able to jump to protect Naruto while noone noticed it. Hinata was able to place yourself to protect Naruto with her body against Obito's wood release attack sent via JuubiHinata's stamina increased due to very hard training she had to go through against Neji and others etc.Hinata's hand seals skills may improved quite a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Kiba:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth3.5
[td]3[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]24[/td]

Kiba:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.532234.52.51.522
Fourth3.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)22(+0.5)3(+0.5)4.52.5(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)25
ExplanationKiba developed improved and stronger version of Gatsuga.Kiba's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warKiba's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Kiba is goofy and hotheaded as always.Kiba's physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Kiba's speed is high and didn't change at all.Kiba's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Kiba's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Shino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]23[/td]

Shino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third41.5241.533221
Fourth4(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)241.5(+0.5)33(+0.5)2(+0.5)23.5
ExplanationShino developed new technique involving bugs.Shino's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warShino's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Shino is clever shinobi.Shinos physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Shino's speed is average but may improved a bit.Shino's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Shino's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Ino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4.5
[td]2[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]24[/td]

Ino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.51.5332.52.52.52.521
Fourth3.5(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)33(+0,5)2.52.5(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)24
ExplanationIno developed new technique involving mind(mind clone technique).Ino's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warIno's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Ino is average shinobi but she grown up a bit in this war.Ino's physical strength isn't anything special and didn't improve at all .Ino's speed is average but may improved a bit.Ino's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Ino's hand seals skills doesn't change at all.Summary of all stats simple.

Choji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4
[td]3[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]23.5[/td]

Chouji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.53124.523.5120.5
Fourth3.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)12(+0,5)4.52(+0.5)3.5(+0.5)1(+0.5)23.5
ExplanationChouji learned new clan technique, was able to go in butterfly mode(calory technique) .Chouji's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warChouji's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Chouji is average shinobi but he grown up a bit in this war.Chouji's physical strength is very powerfull and didn't change at all .Chouji's speed is quite average but may improved a bit.Chouji's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Chouji's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Shikamaru:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth3.5
[td]2[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]25.5[/td]

Shikamaru:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.523522.53324
Fourth3.5(+0.5)2(+0.5)3522.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)3(+0.5)26.5
ExplanationShikamaru learned some new clan techniques) .Shikamaru's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warShikamaru's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Shikamaru is great strategist and has high IQ.Shikamaru's physical strength is quite average and didn't change at all .Shikamaru's speed is quite average but may improved a bit.Shikamaru's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Shikamaru's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Tenten:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth3.5
[td]4[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]23[/td]

TenTen:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third33.51.53.51.53.52220.5
Fourth3(+0.5)3.5(+0.5)1.53.51.53.52(+0.5)2(+0.5)22.5
ExplanationTenTen developed new technique involving weapons.TenTen's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warTenTen's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Tenten is clever kunoichi but it doesn't change .TenTen's physical strength isn't anything special and didn't improve at all .TenTen's speed is average and didn't change at all.TenTen's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.TenTen's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Neji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4.5
[td]5[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]29.5[/td]

Neji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third44.5232.54.53.5327
Fourth4(+0.5)4.5(+0.5)2(+0.5)3(+1.5)2.54.53.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)31
ExplanationNeji learned new clan technique, was called genius in Hyuuga clan as he developed new techniques as well.Nejis Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warNeji's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats but it may improve a bit.Neji is clever shinobi .Neji's physical strength is nothing special and didn't change at all .Neji's speed is very high but didn't change at all.Neji's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Neji's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.

Rock Lee:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth0.5
[td]5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]24.5[/td]

Rock Lee:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third0.55124.54.53.5122
Fourth0.5(+0.5)512(+0.5)4.5(+0.5)4.5+(0.5)3.5(+0.5)124.5
ExplanationRock Lee learned how to walk on water, tree. Jumping through tree to treeRock Lee's Taijutsu is top notch.Rock Lee's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats and it didn't change at all.Rock Lee has average intelect, but he may grown up in this war a bit.Rock Lee's physical strength is very strong due to constant training of his body.Rock Lee's speed is very high and may improve a bit.Rock Lee's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Rock Lee's hand seals was low and didn't change at all.Summary of all stats simple.

Konohamaru:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth2.5
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]18[/td]

Well I would say that this is very hard to judge Konohamaru's skills as he doesn't have any states in previous databook besides his lack of panel screen in manga make it much worse.

I agree with your stats here.

Nagato (Pain):
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]37[/td]



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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4.5
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]30[/td]

I agree completly with these stats you posted, very good stats indeed ;)

Obito:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth4.5
[td]4[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]35[/td]

Obito:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Second3
[td]2[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]18[/td]

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[td]Fourth[/td]
[td]3+(1.5)[/td]
[td]2(+2.5)[/td]
[td]1.5(+3.5)[/td]
[td]1(+4)[/td]
[td]2(+2.5)[/td]
[td]3(+2)[/td]
[td]2.5(+2.5)[/td]
[td]3+(2)[/td]
[td]37.5[/td]
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Kabuto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5
[td]4[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]4[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]36[/td]

Kabuto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third4.5
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]32[/td]

[tr]
[td]Fourth[/td]
[td]4.5(+0.5)[/td]
[td]3.5(+0.5)[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3(+1)[/td]
[td]3.5(+1)[/td]
[td]3(+1)[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[/tr]


These are Kabuto's stats in base state(Kabuchimaru) so he is Orochimaru and yourself hybrid but no in sage mode. Sage mode could rise his stats to be around 38 I think.

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Naruto in Tailed beast mode:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth553.555552.536

Kabuto in Sage mode
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]39.5[/td]



I am done with my own list.

I will admit that you have done great work and put some efforts into doing databook stats ;), Very well done and your stats are still very good even If I don't agree with you. However everyone has right to have it's own opinion, that human's thing :win:

So don't worry =D
 
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I dont understand adister90 stats on naruto. We are talking base stats here, and naruto power and speed are no doubt sage mode power ups. I cant believe naruto is walking around in base stats with 5.0 in power and speed, if thats the case we will never see the degree of his saga mode power up(or his other modes) if naruto is already a 5.0.We have to remember that this is base stats here.
 

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Maybe I'm just unreasonably bias towards Hinata... but how the hell is Sakura's taijutsu rated higher than her's - the Gentle Fist user?
 
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That is mine version about possible characters stats in Databook IV:

Naruto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third43.5233.53.551.526
Fourth4(+1)3.5(+1)2(+1.5)3(+1)3.5(+1)3.5(+1.5)51.5(+1)33.5
ExplanationNaruto mastered Rasengan left by Fourth Hokage to him, mastered Shadow clone technique, many varriants of Rasengans, Bijuudama, chakra arms, Sumonning no JutsuAfter Sage treninng in Myobokuzan, Naruto didn't just show new feats in Sage mode but improved almost all his stats in base state. Naruto was keeping his own against Deva Path for moment, then fought against Karui and Omoi and outsmarted them(Kakashi has 4.5 in Taijutsu)Since Kurama agreed to copperate with Naruto, Naruto became perfect Jin, his chakra control improved as well as Kurama won't mess up with Naruto's chakra circular system as before he did.(Gai has 3 in Genjutsu)He grown up a lot in this war, using strategy againt Edo Raikage. Naruto proved to use strategy with clones against Pein. He shown some inteligence where he noticed way to stop Edo Jinchurki Obito's six paths of Pein.Naruto strength increased after Sage trening, besides Naruto was always strong physically. One feat he shown when he free yourself from Preta Path grasp.Naruto's speed increased a lot after Sage trening, proved when Omoi and Karui attacked him, Sakura and Sai. Naruto was able to save Sakura before Kakashi(who suffered some side effects of using Kamui)Pretty obvious, there is nothing need to addNaruto shown to be able summon giant frog without any effort(he was in KCM, but still we can consider that he can). Naruto's chakra control is almost perfect now, so doing handseals would be easier. Besides his intelligence risen up too as well as he calm down yourself thanks to meditating while treining in Sage Arts.Summary of all stats simple.

Remember that I am only talking about base Naruto, no Sage mode or Kyuubi chakra in any form involved, only improvements he got in base state from these special states !



Sasuke:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third53.543.53.54.53.5431.5
Fourth53.5(+1)4(+0.5)3.5(+1)3.54.53.5(+0.5)4(+0.5)35
ExplanationMany chidori varriants, Sussano, Amaterasu, Tsyukomi(?), Fire release techniques etc.Sasuke was fighting in Taijutsu against Itachi and was able to keep up with him(Although he had Orochimaru absorbed in him). Later Sasuke was able to keep up with Kakashi in taijutsu for brief moment when he was almost blind(Kakashi has 4.5 in Taijutsu)Obito commented that Sasuke's genjutsu may be stronger against Danzo but not on Itachi's level. Sasuke improved in Genjutsu field since he has activated MS.Sasuke is very clever shinobi, he was overloaded with hate which caused that he didn't make use of his mind too often, but now he is good again and lost his hate, burden. He gonna prove that I am sure.Sasuke's physical strength wasn't shown to improved so I didn't change it.Sasuke's speed didn't change as well as in example aboveSasuke's stamina grown up a bit as shown against Raikage then Danzo fight. Sasuke was using so more techniques and was still standingSasuke's hand seals skills improved quite a bit Summary of all stats simple.



Sakura:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third333.54332.5426
Fourth3(+1)3(+0.5)3.54(+0.5)3(+2)3(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)431
ExplanationMedical techniques, chakra enhanced attacks.Sakura's Taijutsu improved a bit.Sakura's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change for now.Sakura is very clever kunoichi. She was very good at learining in academy and shown as example to class how they should learn by Iruka. Sakura shown great knowledge about Medical herbs, poisons etc. as well as she proved to think clever in battle(against Sasori). Sakura's physical strength was shown to be very great, no doubt that she deserves 5.Sakura's speed may improved a bit, but nothing by far, just plus 0.5 I think.Sakura's stamina may increased a bit, but nothing significant to notice at first look.Sakura's hand seals skills didn't improve at all.Summary of all stats simple.



Hinata:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third33.52.53.51.52.52321.5
Fourth3(+1)3.5(+0.5)2.53.5(+0.5)1.5(+1)2.5(+1)2(+1)3(+0.5)27
ExplanationHinata trained very hard and developed Lion chakra shaped fists, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Wall Palm, Eight Trigrams Vacuum Palm. Hinata's Taijutsu improved thanks to her training with Neji.Hinata's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Hinata is clever kunoichi. She was calm, shy and good at learining in academy and shown . Hinata shown good knowledge about chakra, techniques etc.Hinata's physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Hinata's speed may improved, as she was able to jump to protect Naruto while noone noticed it. Hinata was able to place yourself to protect Naruto with her body against Obito's wood release attack sent via JuubiHinata's stamina increased due to very hard training she had to go through against Neji and others etc.Hinata's hand seals skills may improved quite a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Kiba:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.532234.52.51.522
Fourth3.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)22(+0.5)3(+0.5)4.52.5(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)25
ExplanationKiba developed improved and stronger version of Gatsuga.Kiba's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warKiba's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Kiba is goofy and hotheaded as always.Kiba's physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Kiba's speed is high and didn't change at all.Kiba's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Kiba's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Shino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third41.5241.533221
Fourth4(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)241.5(+0.5)33(+0.5)2(+0.5)23.5
ExplanationShino developed new technique involving bugs.Shino's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warShino's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Shino is clever shinobi.Shinos physical strength isn't anything special but still improved quite a bit .Shino's speed is average but may improved a bit.Shino's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Shino's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Ino:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.51.5332.52.52.52.521
Fourth3.5(+0.5)1.5(+0.5)33(+0,5)2.52.5(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)2.5(+0.5)24
ExplanationIno developed new technique involving mind(mind clone technique).Ino's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warIno's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Ino is average shinobi but she grown up a bit in this war.Ino's physical strength isn't anything special and didn't improve at all .Ino's speed is average but may improved a bit.Ino's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Ino's hand seals skills doesn't change at all.Summary of all stats simple.



Chouji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.53124.523.5120.5
Fourth3.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)12(+0,5)4.52(+0.5)3.5(+0.5)1(+0.5)23.5
ExplanationChouji learned new clan technique, was able to go in butterfly mode(calory technique) .Chouji's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warChouji's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Chouji is average shinobi but he grown up a bit in this war.Chouji's physical strength is very powerfull and didn't change at all .Chouji's speed is quite average but may improved a bit.Chouji's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Chouji's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Shikamaru:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third3.523522.53324
Fourth3.5(+0.5)2(+0.5)3522.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)3(+0.5)26.5
ExplanationShikamaru learned some new clan techniques) .Shikamaru's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warShikamaru's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Shikamaru is great strategist and has high IQ.Shikamaru's physical strength is quite average and didn't change at all .Shikamaru's speed is quite average but may improved a bit.Shikamaru's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Shikamaru's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



TenTen:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third33.51.53.51.53.52220.5
Fourth3(+0.5)3.5(+0.5)1.53.51.53.52(+0.5)2(+0.5)22.5
ExplanationTenTen developed new technique involving weapons.TenTen's Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warTenTen's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats, so it doesn't change.Tenten is clever kunoichi but it doesn't change .TenTen's physical strength isn't anything special and didn't improve at all .TenTen's speed is average and didn't change at all.TenTen's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.TenTen's hand seals skills may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Neji:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third44.5232.54.53.5327
Fourth4(+0.5)4.5(+0.5)2(+0.5)3(+1.5)2.54.53.5(+0.5)3(+0.5)31
ExplanationNeji learned new clan technique, was called genius in Hyuuga clan as he developed new techniques as well.Nejis Taijutsu improved a bit thanks to constant fighting in warNeji's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats but it may improve a bit.Neji is clever shinobi .Neji's physical strength is nothing special and didn't change at all .Neji's speed is very high but didn't change at all.Neji's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Neji's hand seals may improved a bit.Summary of all stats simple.



Rock Lee:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third0.55124.54.53.5122
Fourth0.5(+0.5)512(+0.5)4.5(+0.5)4.5+(0.5)3.5(+0.5)124.5
ExplanationRock Lee learned how to walk on water, tree. Jumping through tree to treeRock Lee's Taijutsu is top notch.Rock Lee's genjutsu didn't shown any new feats and it didn't change at all.Rock Lee has average intelect, but he may grown up in this war a bit.Rock Lee's physical strength is very strong due to constant training of his body.Rock Lee's speed is very high and may improve a bit.Rock Lee's stamina increased a little due to fighting in constant wars.Rock Lee's hand seals was low and didn't change at all.Summary of all stats simple.



Well I would say that this is very hard to judge Konohamaru's skills as he doesn't have any states in previous databook besides his lack of panel screen in manga make it much worse.

I agree with your stats here.



I agree completly with these stats you posted, very good stats indeed ;)



Obito:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Second3
[td]2[/td]
[td]1.5[/td]
[td]1[/td]
[td]2[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]2.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]18[/td]

[tr]
[td]Fourth[/td]
[td]3+(1.5)[/td]
[td]2(+2.5)[/td]
[td]1.5(+3.5)[/td]
[td]1(+4)[/td]
[td]2(+2.5)[/td]
[td]3(+2)[/td]
[td]2.5(+2.5)[/td]
[td]3+(2)[/td]
[td]37.5[/td]
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Kabuto:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Third4.5
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]3.5[/td]
[td]3[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]32[/td]

[tr]
[td]Fourth[/td]
[td]4.5(+0.5)[/td]
[td]3.5(+0.5)[/td]
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]3(+1)[/td]
[td]3.5(+1)[/td]
[td]3(+1)[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]36[/td]
[/tr]


These are Kabuto's stats in base state(Kabuchimaru) so he is Orochimaru and yourself hybrid but no in sage mode. Sage mode could rise his stats to be around 38 I think.

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Naruto in Tailed beast mode:
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth553.555552.536

Kabuto in Sage mode
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DatabookNinjutsuTaijutsuGenjutsuIntelligenceStrengthSpeedStaminaHand sealsTotal
Fourth5
[td]4.5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]5[/td]
[td]39.5[/td]



I am done with my own list.

I will admit that you have done great work and put some efforts into doing databook stats ;), Very well done and your stats are still very good even If I don't agree with you. However everyone has right to have it's own opinion, that human's thing :win:

So don't worry =D



Thanks for the compliment. I also like some of the revisions you made. I, of course, won't say much. Just because this is an opinion like mine :). Still... pretty good though! Now... if more people edited these stats like you without b*tching, moaning and carrying on, that would be awesome.
 
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Hinata is not Neji, and Sakura is the 5th Hokage Apprentice. Now wonder again.
Hinata = Hyuuga, clan with best taijutsu form in Konoha.

Sakura = medical ninja with super strength, not super taijutsu skills.

Either way you look at it, if there's any stat that should be higher than Sakura's, it should be her taijutsu. The little that Hinata does have on Sakura you are trying to take it away because according to you, her tutelage to be a medical ninja under Tsunade makes her a taijutsu wonder.
 

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Hinata = Hyuuga, clan with best taijutsu form in Konoha.

Sakura = medical ninja with super strength, not super taijutsu skills.

Either way you look at it, if there's any stat that should be higher than Sakura's, it should be her taijutsu. The little that Hinata does have on Sakura you are trying to take it away because according to you, her tutelage to be a medical ninja under Tsunade makes her a taijutsu wonder.
Even if Hinata is from the clan with the best taijutsu moves in Konoha, her development in the discipline is not good enough, that's why I said Hinata is not Neji (and it seems you're assuming both are equals because both are Hyuuga, that lacks of any sense).

In the other hand, Sakura did not only train medical ninjutsu. She trained her strength and her evasion moves, did you see the Tsunade training where everything was explained? As for your arguments, it seems like you did not... come on, Chiyo-ba admitted Sakura was a natural fighter when they were against Sasori. Sakura learns patterns damn fast.
 

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Even if Hinata is from the clan with the best taijutsu moves in Konoha, her development in the discipline is not good enough, that's why I said Hinata is not Neji (and it seems you're assuming both are equals because both are Hyuuga, that lacks of any sense).

In the other hand, Sakura did not only train medical ninjutsu. She trained her strength and her evasion moves, did you see the Tsunade training where everything was explained? As for your arguments, it seems like you did not... come on, Chiyo-ba admitted Sakura was a natural fighter when they were against Sasori. Sakura learns patterns damn fast.
I agree with you. Also, Lets look at Tsunade and Sakura for a moment. They are fighters, primarily using melee instead of using hand seals and other jutsu. If you are a fighter, it is imperative that you must be trained and formidable in taijutsu. Just because Hinata is a Hyuuga does not give her a free pass. While Hinata is a good fighter, she was not trained by a Sannin. Tsunade is a Sannin for a reason -- she is good at medical jutsu and hand to hand combat (Taijutsu)... that is her speciality, something she passed down to Sakura. The only people I could imagine are higher than Sakura in taijutsu would be Rock Lee and Gai... that is all they basically practice.
 
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