Forgotten fact about MS

[Snape Uchiha]

Sasuke awakened his MS after learning the truth about Itachi, not after killing him.

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Yes, but If he only found out the truth without killing him he would not have awakned it. He killed him, and then found out the truth and realized he killed the closest person to him and awakened MS.

 

[Flawž]

Sasuke awakened his MS after learning the truth about Itachi, not after killing him.

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Yea my bad I was thinking of something else.

 

[chaos control]

Not quite true. If Obito hadn't been there to see Kakashi kill Rin, then Obito would not have awakened it. Only Kakashi would have. Don't say that the sharingans are linked because they are not. The eyes only link in certain situations. Two sharingans of a pair can evolve independently from eachother. Evidence: The fact that in the battle with Haku, one of Sasuke's sharingans had two tomoe while the other only had one. If the eyes were always linked and always evolved as a pair, then both of Sasuke's eyes would have had two tomoe.

Itachi only said that you have to kill your friend yourself because if you don't kill them yourself, then it is likely that you won't be present to witness the death of your friend or that they will just simply die without you. It is also likely that they'll just live a long life and they may even out live you. You can not be sure that you will be able to witness their death. That is why Itachi said that you have to kill them.

 

[Darth Vader]

A non Uchiha can't awaken it. Your theory is wrong, because Obito didn't kill someone close to him, he watched it. Kakashi's Mangekyō awakened because Obito's did, not vice versa.

 

[Xēnovia.]

The more despair an uchiha has the stronger the eyes would become...​

 

[Flawž]

Not quite true. If Obito hadn't been there to see Kakashi kill Rin, then Obito would not have awakened it. Only Kakashi would have. Don't say that the sharingans are linked because they are not. The eyes only link in certain situations. Two sharingans of a pair can evolve independently from eachother. Evidence: The fact that in the battle with Haku, one of Sasuke's sharingans had two tomoe while the other only had one. If the eyes were always linked and always evolved as a pair, then both of Sasuke's eyes would have had two tomoe.

Itachi only said that you have to kill your friend yourself because if you don't kill them yourself, then it is likely that you won't be present to witness the death of your friend or that they will just simply die without you. It is also likely that they'll just live a long life and they may even out live you. You can not be sure that you will be able to witness their death. That is why Itachi said that you have to kill them.

kakashi is not an uchiha, he can't unlock the ms. It was thanks to Obito that kakashi unlocked the Ms. Both eyes are linked.

 

[China IL]

Sasuke awakened his late becassue he still didn't consier Itachi a "friend" even after death. But when he found out the truth, he started to love him again, therefore feeling that he killed Itachi. Then he awakened his MS.

 

[sharingan17]

He thought he awakened it then, but in a flashback we see that he actually awakened it during the Uchiha massacre

Probably miss that part thanks.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

I disagree. I don't think one necessarily needs to kill their loved one to obtain MS. Sasuke didn't REALLY kill Itachi either. Itachi died from his disease and exhaustion, honestly. And apart from that, let's say Sasuke didn't find out the truth about Itachi from Obito, he wouldn't have unlocked MS because he hated Itachi. I believe the trauma from learning the truth made Sasuke unlock his MS, not the fact that he "killed" his brother.

You disagree with everything.

Sasuke killed Itachi, either by Itachi dying MS triggered or by Sasuke killing him. I think its the first one.

Every Uchiha have their own ways of unlocking their true potential.

I agree with the trama thing though because its true, if Sasuke would have already had unlocked MS we would have seen his patterns when he used amaterasu, so that would make my point up top wrong.

Sasuke afterwards when he had that talk with Obtio, Kisame, and Taka I think that's when he first unlocked his MS. ​

 

[chaos control]

kakashi is not an uchiha, he can't unlock the ms. It was thanks to Obito that kakashi unlocked the Ms. Both eyes are linked.

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

Yes the fluck it is dude...its something their born with. Naruto can't just get Sasuke's eyes and get MS or EMS because he goes through something heart breaking.

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[AlphaScythian]

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

Its uchihas KKG to turn regular eyes into sharingan not any1 else. Kakashi couldnt awaken MS

 

[VongolaX]

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

Obito saw Rin die

Non-uchiha's can't awaken the MS

It's genetics...

 

[China IL]

Yes the fluck it is dude...its something their born with. Naruto can't just get Sasuke's eyes and get MS or EMS because he goes through something heart breaking.

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Its uchihas KKG to turn regular eyes into sharingan not any1 else. Kakashi couldnt awaken MS

Obito saw Rin die

Non-uchiha's can't awaken the MS

It's genetics...

Thats not neccessarily true. If Kakashi can use MS techniques, why not be able to awaken it?

 

[theacknowledgedone]

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

No, Kakashi cannot unlock the MS ability. The only reason it was unlocked was because Obito watched his lover die by the hand of his best friend. Obito just didn't know that even without having his other eye that it would awaken the other.

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[Flawž]

There is nothing suggesting that a non-Uchiha can't awaken it. In fact, Obito even expressed surprise that Kakashi awakened the mangekyou sharingan. If the eyes were always linked, then there would be no reason for Obito to be surprised because he would know that Kakashi automatically awakened it the moment that he awakened it. Plus, reread my statement about Sasuke's eyes in the battle with Haku.

You need to be an uchiha to be able to awaken the MS. Tobirama explained this clearly stated that they have special chakra in their brain that reacts to emotion. Normal people don't have that chakra inside their brain meaning they cannot unlock the sharingan unless they are uchiha.

Obito was surprised because it's not possible for kakashi to awaken the MS, Obito knew That kakashi unlocked it because he did as well, since both eyes are connected.

 

[Silent Phantom]

Two sharingans of a pair can evolve independently from eachother. Evidence: The fact that in the battle with Haku, one of Sasuke's sharingans had two tomoe while the other only had one. If the eyes were always linked and always evolved as a pair, then both of Sasuke's eyes would have had two tomoe.

I never understood that with Sasuke's eyes how did they even back out so both were 3T?

 

[Zavage10]

Actually sasuke awakened his magekyo right when itachi died. Notice the blood leaking out of sasuke's eye, and the deliberate scene focus on his mouth.

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[VongolaX]

Thats not neccessarily true. If Kakashi can use MS techniques, why not be able to awaken it?

Nagato can use Rinnegan techniques and he didn't awaken them. :|

 

[xxSAGExx]

Its uchihas KKG to turn regular eyes into sharingan not any1 else. Kakashi couldnt awaken MS

But Kakashi not turning Obito's regular eye to the Sharingan, it's always active and goes to MS. If Kakashi can activate MS from 3 tomoes then why can't he awaken it? There were no chakra from Obito's brain flowing into Kakashi's Sharingan but both Kakashi and Obito saw someone they cared about died, we even see Kakashi crying as it happens. They eye might have been connected by that doesn't connect their chakra.

Obito saw Rin die

Non-uchiha's can't awaken the MS

It's genetics...

If that was true then Kakashi shouldn't be able to go from 3 Tomoes to MS on his own either since it's chakra from the brain that does that. I believe non-Uchihas can awaken the MS only if they already have the 3 tomoes and experience the required pain. Both Kakashi and Obito were feeling the pain of losing someone, Kakashi was even crying.

Actually sasuke awakened his magekyo right when itachi died. Notice the blood leaking out of sasuke's eye, and the deliberate scene focus on his mouth.

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That wasn't the MS, that was blood that ran from his forehead to his eyes which are normal. He would have to be using Amaterasu to have his eye bleed like that with the MS.

Nagato can use Rinnegan techniques and he didn't awaken them. :|

Well the Rinnegan is how Nagato got the eyes, he couldn't deactivate it to EMS, MS or 3 tomoes. Kakashi on the other hand stays in 3 tomoes and he can freely go from 3 tomoes to MS. He shouldn't be able to since it takes chakra to do so, so how can he activate MS without having Uchiha's special chakra? The eyes being connected wouldn't put Obito's chakra into Kakashi's to make it go MS.