For those who believes itachi scared of jiraiya

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lmao
itachi fights pervy sage who injures him but itachi wins imo
now itachi has to escape bunch load of jounins and anbu
he get's caught or dies
what happens to sauce
 

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@EVani
Sadly no. You see, the samurai were not the intended target-it was Ay. Hence the flames merely travelled to the samurai.(plus the samurai were wearing metal armour........) Sasuke stopped looking at the samurai, hence the amaterasu wasn't focused on them. A focused amaterasu burns at an alarming rate-the frog stomach was burned in an instant, as was Danzo, or even Sasuke's katon. The only time when it burned kind of slow was against bee(but the hachibi is huge, has high durability, and it was sasuke's first use.)

Sasuke used it the first time against the raikage but he dodged it

Also Inferno style was used as a shield after amatersau was used and thats when Cee was surprised he could manipulate it

When he used it in the first scan, Manga makes it clear it was amaterasu

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Against Gaara, Manga makes it clear it was Enton
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Cee explains it clearly here
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ok wait a second, you think attacking/trying to kill Kakashi, Asuma and kurenai (a group of Konoha's strongest) was for his cover and escaping a fight against ONE opponent when they had their target (Naruto) won't blow his cover/you think it's justified ??

you see i seriously considered every possibility here and it appears to me that Kishi was infact implying that it's an even fight.

Kisame is the weakest of the three (admitted inferiority) so there's no point in talking about him.

BTW i was just talking about/discussing what the writer was trying to say (considering everything that happened), and i don't like the excuses that don't apply to what happened/the painful ignoring of some facts.

Huh. On the other hand you think that Itachi+Kisame+other Akatsuki members all together would lose to Jiraiya, the statement that Kakashi made about Itachi not killing him means nothing, and the fact that Obito stated that Itachi was not in Konoha for conflict means nothing. Itachi wasn't there to fight Jiraiya and spared him. That's as factual as it's going to get.

He warned those three twice to stay away from him, and in fact they initiated the fight. They attacked him first. Then he only said that after Kakashi started telling them what he knew. Obviously he would say that in order to not blow his cover, especially when Kisame would think something was wrong, because they were significantly above Kurenai, Kakashi, and Asuma in terms of ability and he wouldn't see the reason for retreating.

Jiraiya on the other hand Kisame was worried about due to hearing about his hype. Itachi didn't want to attract anymore attention to himself, nor did he want to hurt Jiraiya. So he saw the opportune chance for an excuse (and Kisame was even still suspicious as they were leaving) and they left.
 

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Huh. On the other hand you think that Itachi+Kisame+other Akatsuki members all together would lose to Jiraiya, the statement that Kakashi made about Itachi not killing him means nothing, and the fact that Obito stated that Itachi was not in Konoha for conflict means nothing. Itachi wasn't there to fight Jiraiya and spared him. That's as factual as it's going to get.

He warned those three twice to stay away from him, and in fact they initiated the fight. They attacked him first. Then he only said that after Kakashi started telling them what he knew. Obviously he would say that in order to not blow his cover, especially when Kisame would think something was wrong, because they were significantly above Kurenai, Kakashi, and Asuma in terms of ability and he wouldn't see the reason for retreating.

Jiraiya on the other hand Kisame was worried about due to hearing about his hype. Itachi didn't want to attract anymore attention to himself, nor did he want to hurt Jiraiya. So he saw the opportune chance for an excuse (and Kisame was even still suspicious as they were leaving) and they left.

Itachi lied again. He just didn't want to hurt a fly(jiraiya)
 

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Huh. On the other hand you think that Itachi+Kisame+other Akatsuki members all together would lose to Jiraiya, the statement that Kakashi made about Itachi not killing him means nothing, and the fact that Obito stated that Itachi was not in Konoha for conflict means nothing. Itachi wasn't there to fight Jiraiya and spared him. That's as factual as it's going to get.

He warned those three twice to stay away from him, and in fact they initiated the fight. They attacked him first. Then he only said that after Kakashi started telling them what he knew. Obviously he would say that in order to not blow his cover, especially when Kisame would think something was wrong, because they were significantly above Kurenai, Kakashi, and Asuma in terms of ability and he wouldn't see the reason for retreating.

Jiraiya on the other hand Kisame was worried about due to hearing about his hype. Itachi didn't want to attract anymore attention to himself, nor did he want to hurt Jiraiya. So he saw the opportune chance for an excuse (and Kisame was even still suspicious as they were leaving) and they left.

Itachi lied again. He just didn't want to hurt a fly(jiraiya)
 

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why the hell do you keep mentioning Jiraiya's exposure to Amaterasu (never talked about that) ?? and why would Itachi conserve chakra if Jiraiya is the last opponent standing in their way and can expose them or even worse go after them ?? he used it to escape ......................

and you still didn't answer my question, Itachi was ready to KILL Kakashi and the rest (leaf Shinobi's) and that's a fact that must be considered/you can't ignore that so what stopped him from killing Jiraiya ??

Itachi never minded killing anyone when he had too (for his cover/for the greater good) :

1. technically Killed Gara.

2. killed his clan.

3. was going to kill Kakashi.

Maybe because Jiraiyya WOULDNT be his last opponent? DOn't forget, just after Itachi escaped, Gai came storming in.(if itachi had killed jiraiya with ammy, he would be low on chakra, and having to face gai after that would be dumb...) The uchiha clan massacre was "for the village". He didn't kill gaara directly, and he must have known that someone was nearby. (it's no coincidence that gai showed up straight after itachi ordered the murder) Even kakashi wondered why itachi didn't kill him, and kisame was wondering why itachi fleed from Jiraiya. It's obvious that Itachi didn't kill jiraiya as that would hurt konoha......
 

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One can argue that Itachi was right though. You forget that Jiraiya was a sage and he also has basic knowledge of Itachi as a member of the Uchiha clan. He's extremely intelligent too as a shinobi which made him a formidable person on the battlefield.

Of course Itachi was a double agent for Konoha, but look at the fact that Itachi had to whoop out Amaterasu just to escape Jiraiya. A full on battle with him would've made things worse for the both of them. He has way too much in his arsenal and also the battle experience is a BIG difference.
 

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im just gonna leave this here...

 

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We can only speculate, But Itachi wins imo.
 

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Huh. On the other hand you think that Itachi+Kisame+other Akatsuki members all together would lose to Jiraiya, the statement that Kakashi made about Itachi not killing him means nothing, and the fact that Obito stated that Itachi was not in Konoha for conflict means nothing. Itachi wasn't there to fight Jiraiya and spared him. That's as factual as it's going to get.

He warned those three twice to stay away from him, and in fact they initiated the fight. They attacked him first. Then he only said that after Kakashi started telling them what he knew. Obviously he would say that in order to not blow his cover, especially when Kisame would think something was wrong, because they were significantly above Kurenai, Kakashi, and Asuma in terms of ability and he wouldn't see the reason for retreating.

Jiraiya on the other hand Kisame was worried about due to hearing about his hype. Itachi didn't want to attract anymore attention to himself, nor did he want to hurt Jiraiya. So he saw the opportune chance for an excuse (and Kisame was even still suspicious as they were leaving) and they left.

@Bold
I guess that u were saying that Itachi "wanted" to kill all of them "to protect the secret of Akatsuki", therefore it won't blow his cover by showing his "loyalty to Akatsuki".

If that so, then I don't think so. Because if Kakashi said they knew about Akatsuki, then the elders of Konoha should have known about it as well, especially of the danger they posed when they wanted to capture Jinchuurikis. Jiraiya wouldn't let his information about Akatsuki a secret.

So I see that "protecting the secret of Akatsuki" wasn't the excuse for killing all 3 of them.

But anyway, I'm afraid if I misunderstood of what u were really talking about. Pardon me. I wondered about the rationale between Itachi's action too. I guess your arguments might be kinda right to some degree.
 
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