For the homophobes

WOULD YOU RATHER

  • Would you rather your 17 year old daughter tell you she's pregnant?

    Votes: 37 52.1%
  • Your 17 year old son tell you he's gay?

    Votes: 34 47.9%

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Enhancement of sexual pleasure. Just as trivial as enhancement of the adrenaline rush and excitement one feels from the fun of scuba diving
The scuba diver still breathes air with his nose. He just does it from a tank. That's biological design. The one in the airplane is exercising his muscles for sitting down in his seat. The only way to equate this to homosexuality is if people somehow used their asses to fly or their eyes to breathe underwater.


Who cares though? Do you not realize that, for human beings who have evolved past being limited and run by instincts, this does not matter?
Does this mean heteorsexuals are a lower order of beings becauuse they do things the good ol' way; being run by instinct?
 
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life so far can't exist without heterosexuality, many fear this hence they fear homosexuality.
Butt eventually "Science" *sigh* as always will find away around it which will either better or destroy humanity(a lot of butt-hurt).
 

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The scuba diver still breathes air with his nose. He just does it from a tank. That's biological design. The one in the airplane is exercising his muscles for sitting down in his seat. The only way to equate this to homosexuality is if people somehow used their asses to fly or their eyes to breathe underwater.
I can do that. You don't want to know how, trust me.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19790577" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19790577">TenseiganFTW said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> No wonder God punishes people with Nature catastrophes.<br /> Cause of gays and evil people. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div></div>
 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=19777977" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-19777977">Aim64C said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> They are both a preference, are they not?<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Who?<br /> <br /> They will be looking for a 'gay' gene for a very long time, because there isn't one.<br /> <br /> Or, to be more scientific with the response - there is no gene that is both common to homosexuals and exclusive of heterosexuals. Worse, the studies are difficult to do in the first place as there are no criteria by which to objectively distinguish someone as 'homosexual.'<br /> <br /> Sounds crazy - but when you look at most of the more thorough studies, the study subjects are asked their sexual preference and there is a course of followup interviews/surveys where, after a few years, a number of homosexuals now identify as heterosexual or bisexual.<br /> <br /> Translated - this means that there exists no way to 'prove' anyone is a homosexual.<br /> <br /> Consider this - let's say there -is- a gay gene. But how can you find it if people who check &quot;homosexual&quot; on the survey are just confused heterosexuals who gave up on women? Now you have contamination of your data set ... and how do you control for that?<br /> <br /> The best way to try and control for that is twin studies. If homosexuality is something governed by genetics, then we would expect identical twins to both be homosexual. Since this is only the case roughly 50% of the time, there are other factors that quite clearly influence this. Further, without digging into each of those studies to see what follow-ups found several years later, it's impossible to declare them definitive. If the study allowed for 18 year old people to respond to the survey, it is likely that the number of people who identify as homosexual decline.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Finding things arousing and sexual preference are two completely different things.<br /> <br /> Just as a dog is likely to get a hard-on when he becomes emotionally excited - men and women are both likely to become stimulated, particularly in their teenage years. Men become very sensitive, and just the presence of their clothing can trigger arousal. It is also common for young men to become aroused in the presence of other men - similar to how a dog contesting another dog will become aroused. It is also common for people entering puberty to engage in exploratory behavior with those whom they trust, regardless of their ***. Close friends are more likely to be chosen to explore sexuality - someone they feel more comfortable with.<br /> <br /> None of those are to be confused for sexual preference. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> There are songs, however, that trigger an immediate response from you. When you listen to some songs, your adrenal glands are stimulated and you are filled with energy. Others that you find more relaxing will trigger a relaxing of your blood vessels and a lowering of your blood pressure (as well as heart rate, breathing, etc).<br /> <br /> You tend to associate songs with the environments where you first encountered them or the people who introduced you to them. While there are sounds and patterns we find inherently stimulating in one way or another, there is a much broader context that ties into our perception of music that then triggers the somatic response.<br /> <br /> There is a reason certain music is called &quot;mood music&quot; and some people play it while engaging in sexual activity to 'enhance' things.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Somewhat.<br /> <br /> Under the Red Queen Hypothesis, the fact that women have these large, fatty masses on the front of their chests is completely unnecessary in terms of classical evolution. It is an increased strain upon the body with little benefit (women with larger breasts don't necessarily have a greater capacity to produce milk, or anything).<br /> <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--link"> You must be registered for see links </div><br /> <br /> Therefor, under classical evolution, large breasts are unfavorable to the human population and would be selected by the environment for reduction.<br /> <br /> Yet, here they are.<br /> <br /> Why?<br /> <br /> In fact, this is somewhat unique among all other mammals on the planet. It is not as if humans had large boobs to begin with and the smaller breasted among us are the harbingers of evolution.<br /> <br /> The answer is fairly simple within the Red Queen. For whatever reason, men decided they liked women with larger breasts - enough of them to skew things in that direction. Perhaps it was cognitive - men thought that a woman with larger breasts was better suited to child birth - or perhaps it was just a 'that looks different and I like different.'<br /> <br /> The same can be said of the hip-waist ratio in women. It's well beyond what is necessary for healthy childbirth, and actually contributes to the rate of hip fractures for women. In fact, in more egalitarian populations, there is a lower hip/waist ratio among women, as the rate of hip fractures begins to weigh more heavily upon a woman's ability to survive until reproduction.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> It is a broader class of developmental disorder affecting neurology.<br /> <br /> You could say: &quot;It is learned&quot; - but within the context of how neural networks 'learn' in the vein of Pavlov's Dog. Pavlov noticed that a dog would salivate upon being fed, and hypothesized that dogs would be able to salivate simply upon hearing a call to dinner. Sure enough - if one rang a bell before feeding a dog, then the dog could be 'taught' - or 'conditioned' - to salivate simply upon hearing the bell.<br /> <br /> There are higher-order processes involved in this, but they all follow similar patterns that feed into each other.<br /> <br /> This is why those who identify as homosexuals typically have been sexually abused - an incidence vastly greater than 50%. Various forms of abuse interrupt the natural development cycle of our neurology and generate abnormal concepts of identity and association.<br /> <br /> Which is why I believe the haste to &quot;identify&quot; and &quot;celebrate&quot; homosexuals is more damaging than it is helpful. Given the above regarding teenage exploratory behavior, which is well documented in psychology studies looking into human behavior from the 1800s on up, it would be particularly damaging to put it into the heads of children that people &quot;are&quot; homosexual as an irreversible and born identity - as any arousal or behavior including the same *** would be interpreted as a sort of sentencing to homosexuality among people who have not yet developed sexuality in the first place.<br /> <br /> Simply put - these 'mothers' who try to 'celebrate' the 'homosexuality' of their 10 year old child are effectively committing a form of psychological abuse, as sexuality has not even remotely developed in individuals 10 years old. Sexuality is developed between puberty and young adulthood.<br /> <br /> While there may be genetic factors that bias the neurology of individuals toward one disorder or another - genetics do not provide a very strong argument for homosexuality.<br /> <br /> The same liberal groups that argued 'sexuality is fluid' also want to argue that 'homosexuality is a born trait.' You can't have it both ways. Either sexuality is fluid and a concept that develops within the minds of people - or it is a born-in concept that is set by genetics (which is something that is currently proven false by current research).<br /> <br /> Take your pick. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>First of all. I don't even want to think about how long it took to type all of that. Comparing anime to sexual preference is ridiculous. It's like saying scuba diving and eating are equally as important. Heterosexuals that give up on women putting thenselves down for homosexuals despite not originally being sexually attracted to them...? Stahp. Just stahp. Homosexual gene was just an example to show it's deeper than just liking anime. It could be to do with chemical levels during pregnancy or something. No one realky knows.<br /> <br /> Once again. Arousal and sexual preference being less related than you made out to be? Stahp. Just stahp. You gets aroused mainly by your sexual preference as well as a few random boners down the back of the class which you have to beat down with your book before you can get up and leave. <br /> <br /> The song example is irrelevant. It was a poor example/hyperbole. Plenty of things affect you like that, producing seratonin and dopamine. Excercising, eating chocolate etc.<br /> <br /> The attraction to tits bit. Ima just take your word for it. Cba with the link but it's understandable why men tend to be attracted to women with an hourglass figure, just like how women prefer broad shoulders, big chests etc.<br /> <br /> I'm familiar with Pavlov's dog but once again your comparisons..ugh. You also make it sound like most homosexuals are sexually abused to end up the way they are which is totally preposterous. Reminds me of priests tbh. Were they all molested by priests and the circle continued until it was exposed? I can kinda see where you're coming from with the mothers celebrating homosexuality of their kid as my aunt is a single mother and her son carried around a handbag for idek how long but that's part of my argument. Let the child come to terms and find out his own sexuality and be comfortable with the outcome regardless. Don't instill false prejudice and indoctrinate the poor kids with lies. Remain indifferent throughout.<br /> <br /> I think this may be the longest post I've ever seen on here.</div>
 

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The scuba diver still breathes air with his nose. He just does it from a tank. That's biological design. The one in the airplane is exercising his muscles for sitting down in his seat. The only way to equate this to homosexuality is if people somehow used their asses to fly or their eyes to breathe underwater.
I said breathing underwater, not breathing water(which is kinda impossible). As in, breathing air while simultaneously underwater. That's not biological design(we were biological designed with tanks? Air tanks are suddenly appendages we were born with now?). Biological design says while underwater, human beings are unable to breathe, and we found a loophole around it. The same applies to homosexuality; one can argue that because it goes against being able to reproduce, it is against biological design. But, much like finding the loophole of air tanks to defy biological design, we found a loophole in homosexuality: Simply donate sperm and receive sperm, and you fulfill these imaginary requirements that humans must have children and carry on. Because, let's be real honest right now. Before you guys came to this thread, and shortly after you live, you are not gonna care. I guarantee 99% of the people making the "But, if they don't reproduce, it's not biological design and nature will be angry and evolution and stuffs" don't actually give a shit about any of that. They don't sit around, mulling over that fact, and only care in the time period they need to to make that argument.

However, homosexuality is well within biological design. The reason is, human beings have the capacity to understand and use *** for pleasure. Along with dolphins and certain species of primate(orangutans and I'm almost certain bonobos as well), human beings are one of very few species capable of having *** for pleasure. The fact that human beings can become aroused at any time, have *** at any time, and feel pleasure from it(I'm not sure if the lattermost is also unique/rare, I don't really look up if animals like porking), but a vast majority of other species only have *** while it's their mating season and they're in heat shows that humans don't have the same biological predisposition to only have *** for reproduction. Our natural capacity to understand pleasure and exhibit volition to have *** whenever we want shows we have biologically evolved past having *** only for reproduction. Why do you think the clitoris' only function is pleasure?




Does this mean heteorsexuals are a lower order of beings becauuse they do things the good ol' way; being run by instinct?
No.
 
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I said breathing underwater, not breathing water(which is kinda impossible). As in, breathing air while simultaneously underwater. That's not biological design(we were biological designed with tanks? Air tanks are suddenly appendages we were born with now?). Biological design says while underwater, human beings are unable to breathe, and we found a loophole around it. The same applies to homosexuality; one can argue that because it goes against being able to reproduce, it is against biological design. But, much like finding the loophole of air tanks to defy biological design, we found a loophole in homosexuality: Simply donate sperm and receive sperm, and you fulfill these imaginary requirements that humans must have children and carry on. Because, let's be real honest right now. Before you guys came to this thread, and shortly after you live, you are not gonna care. I guarantee 99% of the people making the "But, if they don't reproduce, it's not biological design and nature will be angry and evolution and stuffs" don't actually give a shit about any of that. They don't sit around, mulling over that fact, and only care in the time period they need to to make that argument.

However, homosexuality is well within biological design. The reason is, human beings have the capacity to understand and use *** for pleasure. Along with dolphins and certain species of primate(orangutans and I'm almost certain bonobos as well), human beings are one of very few species capable of having *** for pleasure. The fact that human beings can become aroused at any time, have *** at any time, and feel pleasure from it(I'm not sure if the lattermost is also unique/rare, I don't really look up if animals like porking), but a vast majority of other species only have *** while it's their mating season and they're in heat shows that humans don't have the same biological predisposition to only have *** for reproduction. Our natural capacity to understand pleasure and exhibit volition to have *** whenever we want shows we have biologically evolved past having *** only for reproduction. Why do you think the clitoris' only function is pleasure?





No.
The clitoris is only for pleasure to promote reproduction. Why do you think cats have barbed penises? Because they're predators and if they ****ed like rabits they would quickly run out of food.


Don't equate butt *** to advancement in human capability. It doesn't increase pleasure as there is already a perfectly working *** organ purpose built for pleasure.

What it i, is people who can't communicate with the other *** so they compensate by forcing a square peg in a round hole so to speak.
 

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The clitoris is only for pleasure to promote reproduction. Why do you think cats have barbed penises? Because they're predators and if they ****ed like rabits they would quickly run out of food.


Don't equate butt *** to advancement in human capability. It doesn't increase pleasure as there is already a perfectly working *** organ purpose built for pleasure.

What it i, is people who can't communicate with the other *** so they compensate by forcing a square peg in a round hole so to speak.
Advancement in the human capacity for pleasure. 2>1.

That makes no sense. If you have the capacity to attract a man, then you have the capacity to attract a woman. If you don't know how to charm and talk to the other ***, how would you do the same to the same ***? "I can't attract people, so I'm gonna go attract people."
 

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The clitoris is only for pleasure to promote reproduction. Why do you think cats have barbed penises? Because they're predators and if they ****ed like rabits they would quickly run out of food.


Don't equate butt *** to advancement in human capability. It doesn't increase pleasure as there is already a perfectly working *** organ purpose built for pleasure.

What it i, is people who can't communicate with the other *** so they compensate by forcing a square peg in a round hole so to speak.
Stop it Riker(knight of hell)is not worth answering...
 

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Lets be honest,you can overcome homosexuality,why follow it?I mean even if you adopt a kid you'll never have the feeling to have you own flesh and blood(real child)and theres nothing better about humans than having a blood child.
Cannibalism is in nature of humans too,but some of them overcome the feelings and some of them choose to practice it,and drinking blood(you know about cannibalism and people that drink blood),the reason why so many people are harmed is becuase many people choose to follow their desires and they give no cr ap about others.
Just like Alchoholists,most of them choose to drink and that's why too many car accidents happen(most of them happen becuase of drunk people,also many rapes happen etc).
I'm against non-sense.
i don't know if you realize this but there are more gay people with biological children than adopted ones. Being gay doesn't mean you are unable to have biological children.

How does this work you may wonder? The same way it does with heterosexuals. The man impregnates a woman either through in vitro fertilization or the traditional way through ***. There are midwives and women who are often willing and paid well to act as the carriers of homosexual couples' children. Both males' sperms are introduced into the female and one of them will be the biological father.

Please wake up from the dark ages of thinking and learn that what you are spouting now is completely incorrect and outdated.

My choice? Doesn't matter they are still my child and I will love them regardless of their f**kups
 

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Who gives a **** about any of this shit.
The question was: "Which would you prefer?"

Since people were willing to say they preferred a pregnant daughter to a homosexual son, the predictable precipitation of "OMG what is wrong with you?"

To which, I explained that there was nothing wrong with the fact that people would prefer to have offspring who are going to procreate.

You want homosexuals to procreate too, they'll accomplish this by donating sperm or receiving sperm.
Only if they choose to do this, and only if their sperm is selected.

It is implied that the girl in question has already reproduced, thereby nullifying the idea that a heterosexual person can choose to not procreate (which is, itself, met with a considerable amount of criticism from society).

What is interesting is how many young people have been raised upon the belief that pregnancy is a punishment that is life-destroying. While the strain it produces cannot be ignored, I find it strange how absolute this is taken - to the degree that this girl is considered to be irreparably broken or is not able to be redeemed. That she is also assumed to be a harlot and thereby a horrible human being is also a strange contrast to the usual liberal message of free *** and non-judgment.

Which just pretty much reinforces my assertion that liberalism is a mental disorder in other threads, and stands as evidence to the claim that liberals are on a never-ending quest to identify 'victim' groups and to strike at any other group claimed to be on equal footing with that group. For the time being, homosexuals have been chosen as the group that has more virtue and woe be to anyone who questions the holy demographic of homosexuality.

Next year, it will be something else, and we will eventually get to the point where a question of: "would you rather have a black son or a homosexual son" ends up landing people in hot water who say they would prefer the homosexual son - because they are obviously racists.

Quit your "but mah evolutions" *****ing
You're the one griping about how people answered a question of preference. I was explaining why that answer was given and why it was natural for that answer to exist.

Now go sit down on your sybian and behave.
 
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