For all of Sasuke's supposed genius, why was he so old and still in the Academy?

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Because the village wasn't at war in that age, so they didn't need kids to graduate early to go into the battlefield as soon as possible.

I still can't believe people don't understand that Kakashi was fast-tracked to Jonin.

Kakashi would have been murdered by his first Jonin opponent if it wasn't for Minato and later Obito.
 

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1. Because he failed at working with teammates which is part of the grade

2. He wasn't as intelligent as Itachi but he was more talented, there's a difference

Anyways, this is a reply to my thread... Sasuke is obviously smarter than Neji, don't be an idiot, we don't need talk to prove this, only action.

Created his own jutsu (blaze release enton)
Created Indra's arrow
Don't get me started on chakra control
Somewhat gained knowledge of 6 paths abilities in battle.
His battle with danzo, deidara, and Itachi were all strategic
Etc.

Don't be a fool, and you disregard sasuke's genius but listen to Naruto when he says "kakashi has better sharingan than sasuke..." lmao there's no such thing as a better sharingan my n i g g a

Sasuke is more talented than Itachi, but not smarter... Itachi also learned from Shishui and the third in addition to his father. Sasuke learned a little from kakshi then orochimaru then the rest was himself.

Because the village wasn't at war in that age, so they didn't need kids to graduate early to go into the battlefield as soon as possible.

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Nope.. you're forgetting Sasuke and Tobirama

I was talking about inteligence . Sasuke isnt smart Sakura was smartest member of team 7 and in Kishi databook Sasuke only has 3.5 and having more power doesnt make you smarter no matter what.

It was also said that Kakashi and Itachi are both smarter than Sasuke.
 

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Anyways, this is a reply to my thread... Sasuke is obviously smarter than Neji, don't be an idiot, we don't need talk to prove this, only action.

Created his own jutsu (blaze release enton)
Created Indra's arrow
Don't get me started on chakra control
Somewhat gained knowledge of 6 paths abilities in battle.
His battle with danzo, deidara, and Itachi were all strategic
Etc.

Don't be a fool, and you disregard sasuke's genius but listen to Naruto when he says "kakashi has better sharingan than sasuke..." lmao there's no such thing as a better sharingan my n i g g a

Sasuke is more talented than Itachi, but not smarter... Itachi also learned from Shishui and the third in addition to his father. Sasuke learned a little from kakshi then orochimaru then the rest was himself.

It's crazy that you say that Sasuke is smarter than Neji. During the Chunin Exams, Neji's stats in the databook proved that he was stronger, faster and smarter than Sasuke. Take a look at the databook.
 

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I still can't believe people don't understand that Kakashi was fast-tracked to Jonin.

Kakashi would have been murdered by his first Jonin opponent if it wasn't for Minato and later Obito.

Agreed and Kakashi is my favorite. Look what happened with Madara and Hashirama's siblings. They were all murdered at a very young age save for Tobirama and Izuna. Wartime is not good for the youngins.

If not for Minato as you pointed out, Team Minato would have been annihilated.
 

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Yo fun fact. Characters who graduated academy or became Chunnin at a young age were accelerated through the process due to the village being in a war period.

Also Sasuke might've had a little bit of the 'OH MY GOD MY FAMILY HAVE BEEN KILLED' trauma to deal with. Can't blame it affecting his grades man.
 

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Thanks for the conformation eddevil.. that's your 3rd or 4th lol

I love how now you look stupid af being convinced Im an alt and like you solved a mystery
 

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Don't be a fool, and you disregard sasuke's genius but listen to Naruto when he says "kakashi has better sharingan than sasuke..." lmao there's no such thing as a better sharingan my n i g g a
if my memory of that occasion serves me correct, Kakashi had MS and Sasuke still only had a 3T Sharingan. That would mean Kakashi did in fact have a better Sharingan.

Sasuke is more talented than Itachi, but not smarter... Itachi also learned from Shishui and the third in addition to his father. Sasuke learned a little from kakshi then orochimaru then the rest was himself.
who learned what from who wasn't the point of Black Zetsu's comparison as to him judging their inherent intellect. It doesn't exactly say a lot abut Sasuke's intellect that he actually had to ask why Kaguya wanted to create soldiers.
2. He wasn't as intelligent as Itachi but he was more talented, there's a difference
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I was talking about inteligence . Sasuke isnt smart Sakura was smartest member of team 7 and in Kishi databook Sasuke only has 3.5 and having more power doesnt make you smarter no matter what.

It was also said that Kakashi and Itachi are both smarter than Sasuke.

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Talking about p1 right. I think Sauce had better feats but early part 1 told a different story I think because Kishi had to give Sakura something before he decided to roid up Naruto & Sasuke.
 
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Talking about p1 right. I think Sauce had better feats but early part 1 told a different story I think because Kishi had to give Sakura something before he decided to roid up Naruto & Sasuke.

Do you have special method to measure characters inteligence ? If you answer is no than I am going with Kishimoto stats in databook 3 where Sakura have higher inteligence.
 
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Talking about p1 right. I think Sauce had better feats but early part 1 told a different story I think because Kishi had to give Sakura something before he decided to roid up Naruto & Sasuke.


Uhm...Sakura has had the highest intelligence stat of team 7 from early part I until present. Even during the chunin exam Sakura was the one being used for answers. Ino took control of Sakura just to get her answers. Sasuke used copywheel to get his from another student.

Sasuke is concidered a genius for his battle prowess and bloodline. He isn't superior in every aspect of the word just when it comes to combat.
 

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Sasuke faps salty af, but sasuke was called a genius for his bloodline not what he worked for lol

Because the ppl who credited Sasuke had never seen an Uchiha before :lol

OT:
Minato: all rounder genius
Itachi: Genius in All rounder excelling in genjutsu and tactics.
Kakashi: genius All rounder specializing in tactics and with the exception of chidori and sharingan I can't really think of anything extraordinary

Sasuke: Well unlike Itachi Sasuke didn't have anyone to learn from so taking into account that Sasuke is self taught I would put him around Neji as far as most of his abilities, and after the timeskip above Orochimaru even though Orochimaru had more knowledge and experience. Where Sasuke shines is in Ninjutsu and chakra, by EoS I can't really say there is anyone that touches him in that area besides the Sage. Shikamaru is above Sasuke in tactics, and so are all the others that I have mentioned and Itachi is #1 in genjutsu (behind him is Orochimaru)
 
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Because the ppl who credited Sasuke had never seen an Uchiha before :blank

OT:
Minato: all rounder genius
Itachi: Genius in All rounder excelling in genjutsu and tactics.
Kakashi: genius All rounder specializing in tactics and with the exception of chidori and sharingan I can't really think of anything extraordinary

Sasuke: Well unlike Itachi Sasuke didn't have anyone to learn from so taking into account that Sasuke is self taught I would put him around Neji as far as most of his abilities, and after the timeskip above Orochimaru even though Orochimaru had more knowledge and experience. Where Sasuke shines is in Ninjutsu and chakra, by EoS I can't really say there is anyone that touches him in that area besides the Sage. Shikamaru is above Sasuke in tactics, and so are all the others that I have mentioned and Itachi is #1 in genjutsu (behind him is Orochimaru)

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Different times , Sasuke left the village anyways. He was considered as Rogue - Later S class , which is far better then anbu fodders.
 

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Because the ppl who credited Sasuke had never seen an Uchiha before :lol

OT:
Minato: all rounder genius
Itachi: Genius in All rounder excelling in genjutsu and tactics.
Kakashi: genius All rounder specializing in tactics and with the exception of chidori and sharingan I can't really think of anything extraordinary

Sasuke: Well unlike Itachi Sasuke didn't have anyone to learn from so taking into account that Sasuke is self taught I would put him around Neji as far as most of his abilities, and after the timeskip above Orochimaru even though Orochimaru had more knowledge and experience. Where Sasuke shines is in Ninjutsu and chakra, by EoS I can't really say there is anyone that touches him in that area besides the Sage. Shikamaru is above Sasuke in tactics, and so are all the others that I have mentioned and Itachi is #1 in genjutsu (behind him is Orochimaru)

Sasuke to me is definitely very proficient in ninjutsu but I can't give him the top spot because he never displayed all 5 elements even though he can now with rinnegan and most of his jutsu all stem from one ability like chidori or amaterasu. He's like anruto with rasengan except his variations are more clever and he has more like example: chidori senbon, spear, shuriken, kirin(mix of fireball and chidori guidance), amaterasu: flame control sword, flame control spikes, flame control yasaka magatama, indra's arrow. They're all basically the same technique with different shape manipulation, Im not hating but he recycle's technique just like naruto except his are way more edgy and flashy so they please the audience.
I have to disagree after the timeskip he was more powerful than Oro if thats what you meant, imo a healthy orochimaru would slaughter him at that point and even until he got his developed susanoo. Itachi, given sasuke's health and abilities would be far better imo because itachi is arguably top 10 with just MS and a debilitating illness
 

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Viz: "You are even dumber than Itachi."

At least, get correct translations if you want to bash someone.

And Kakashi is so much better. The same guy whose Chidori was improved beyond what Kakashi could himself do. Not to mention the sole Fuinjutsu feat was reversed with perfection by Sasuke after only seeing it once.

Because the ppl who credited Sasuke had never seen an Uchiha before :lol

OT:
Minato: all rounder genius
Itachi: Genius in All rounder excelling in genjutsu and tactics.
Kakashi: genius All rounder specializing in tactics and with the exception of chidori and sharingan I can't really think of anything extraordinary

Sasuke: Well unlike Itachi Sasuke didn't have anyone to learn from so taking into account that Sasuke is self taught I would put him around Neji as far as most of his abilities, and after the timeskip above Orochimaru even though Orochimaru had more knowledge and experience. Where Sasuke shines is in Ninjutsu and chakra, by EoS I can't really say there is anyone that touches him in that area besides the Sage. Shikamaru is above Sasuke in tactics, and so are all the others that I have mentioned and Itachi is #1 in genjutsu (behind him is Orochimaru)

Neither Shikamaru nor Kakashi are above Sasuke in tactics. I will throw in Minato as well.
 
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Viz: You are even dumber than Itachi.

At least, get correct translations if you want to bash someone.

And Kakashi is so much better. The same guy whose Chidori was improved beyond what Kakashi could himself do. Not to mention the sole Fuinjutsu feat was reversed with perfection by Sasuke after only seeing it once.



Neither Shikamaru nor Kakashi are above Sasuke in tactics. I will throw in Minato as well.

Wait, so you're saying Kakashi couldn't manipulate the Lightning Blade like Sasuke? You are kidding, right? Lightning Blade, Lightning Clone, Lightning Beast, Lightning transmission, and continuous channel of lightning through a blade even after it's discarded from the user--all of those are feats from Kakashi.
 
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