Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

[Anbu Shinobi]

I agree I'm not even a fan of Minatos, he is cool but i would not want his *ick up my ass.....but the thing is there is a ton of strong shinobi who would kick minatos ass in sheer power but the thing is as long as you don't know in detail how the tech works you can't counter it properly for example sasuke had a ton of firepower against bee and A but still he got his ass handed to him y? because power isn't everything and i must say that i acknowledge their strenght, but they couldn't put a finger on minato, FTG isn't perfect not one jutsu is but nobody defeated him ever that is enough for me to accept that it is one of a kind, and as for fanboys who gives a *hit Minato is dead but he did some awesome stuff worth of admiring in his age

Sorry not to mess with you but if you say power isnt everything in battle wouldnt the same be said about speed lee vs gaara my example Anbu Intel!!!!!

 

[mxit]

We all just guessing that Minato can only use rasengan, FTG and Dead Demon Consuming Seal.... Oh ya btw he owned Madara and the Kyuubi...

Yes in theory FTG can be beaten but no one did even Madara........

 

[Anbu Shinobi]

We all just guessing that Minato can only use rasengan, FTG and Dead Demon Consuming Seal.... Oh ya btw he owned Madara and the Kyuubi...

Yes in theory FTG can be beaten but no one did even Madara........

Well if the 4th died and Naruto mom died and so called Madara still alive who really won that bout HMMMM Anbu Intel!!!!! So called madara fail misson lead to them dying and lead to the uchiha being killed off or was that his plan all along

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

dude,take no offense,but go read the manga again,that little skirmish they had was REAL,it's hard to tell from the manga(it's more clearly seen in the anime) but he activated his tsukyomi after the skirmish,I will try to find that page for you if you want but let me run something by you real fast,before that fight was about to start sasuke took off his robe and after he broke the tsyukyomi the robe was gone meaning the fight had already happened and he already used those shuriken he had sealed around his arms,but even if you don't believe that, there is still the evidence that clearly shows you when he activated his tsukyomi, chapter 388 page 14 and it even shows the shuriken on the ground!!

I looked back on it>_>

Sasuke broke Tsukyomi on his one too. Just read it agian and saw that Sasuke had know help from Itachi. It was a test to see was he strong enough

It seem alot of people wish they were naruto mom so they cant get @#%* by the 4th i see.(STOP RIDING @ick) ok hes not the sage of 6 path's he is not the ninja world god figure hes not even as good as the 1st who had the scroll of sealing to.Im not done yet Itachi was skill but remember the ms has a effect that would have weaken the more you use it thats why he was sick and going blind in the sasuke fight meaning hes no god either so stop all the @ick riding Anbu Intel!!!!!

I should bann yo punk ass, but im not snitch, but I ant know B*tch nether.

@ick riding Anbu Intel!!!!!

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I got Real Shinobi intel!!!!!........

Anbo are weak as hell, They get killed by everybody​

U_U

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Sorry not to mess with you but if you say power isnt everything in battle wouldnt the same be said about speed lee vs gaara my example Anbu Intel!!!!!

Anbu intel.....lol Cant lie,that a Nice catch phrase there. lol

 

[Anbu Shinobi]

LOL good one but i tell no lies in what i say Anbu Intel!!!!!

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Thy shall not tell a lie, but women lie men lie....women lie men lie.... women lie men lie........Number dont lie and tthe body count of Aubu Black ops were stagering

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lol​

 

[Anbu Shinobi]

Thy shall not tell a lie, but women lie men lie....women lie men lie.... women lie men lie........Number dont lie and tthe body count of Aubu Black ops were stagering

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[kakarato]

hello

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

minato is not the one who created the death demen seal it was uzumaki clan fuinjutsu but FTG is minato original jutsu

You have no proof of this. It's never stated in the manga, so unless it eventually is it's speculation.

How did the 4th create it?
Obviously the only time he used it was against the Kyuubi, so he most likely made it while researching seals and whatnot. As we know, the seal is an even numbered one since we've seen it on Naruto. This means that Minato knew how to balance it so that it could properly seal chakra/ souls.

My guess is it was just made from highly extensive research into seals, or was simply passed down from the generations until it reached Minato, Or maybe it's something they both knew about, but Minato simply had more knowledge of the Jutsu than the 3rd did. Who knows? i think they 3th took it to another level where you did not have to die, if shadow clone's were use, i study the fight between him and orochi and saw that the only reason he died was because his final sealing as himself casting it instead of clone's. but i maybe wrong.(if this is really true Minato committed suicide to die with his wife aww "love". (they must have use clone's to practice's that jutsu anyways) my proof is episode 73

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This is for that guy who made this hopless thread. It is clear that even if Madara wanted to warp Minato as soon as he touched him, Minato will still be able to dodge it. Thats the Diference between those two space-time techs. Madaras' Migrates(With vast distances) through time and space, Minatos' speeds(as in the speed of light) through time and space.(Madara space time is the greatest of the two though.)

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When Minato said '"sealing jutsu only a non-jinjuu can use" we can assume that Kushina new how to use it.

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Ithought that I saw it somewhere where Kushina said that he taught it to Minato bbbbbut I was wrong​

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This pic tells us that the (2) names on the contract were Tasurobi and Minato.It is not clear that those were the only two.Basically, there is no real evidence that proves that Minato created this tech. The evidence for him Learning this from the Uzumaki clan however is not that great. But what we do know is that if He wasnt the one to create it (wich im sure he didnt) Then he is one of the very frew who managed to sign the contract.

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this as nothing to do with situation. This is where Oro states that Tasurobi was the God of shinobi.( a High ass title that refers to a God which is knows know all thing of the world. Like in Full Metal Alkamist,SO6P, and Biblical God) We can also assume that He was cold as Hell and that He was up there with best.(preferably up there on/near Hashirama's level)​

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See pple forget about the past when it tells us so much.....U_U
This Genjutsu is by Hashirama. As you can see, Tasurobi Snifed through it.So this is proff that he Can Sniff, not see, through Genjutsu, and how cold he was. oh need more proff?

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He sniffed out Hashirama with his powerful nose!!

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See, the Monkey new that Tasurobi could of killed Oro, but Tasurobi couldnt kill the student that he loved but couldnt save. So he did the next best thing.He took what was presious to Oro, His jutsu. We can say that it was his age, But the fact that He couldnt kill his Student tell the truth behind that battle.

 

[Anbu Shinobi]

I think it means to not two and i think the contract is the hand seal that set the seal so the contract activtes that when you can see it after the hand seal Anbu Intel!!!!! not a fact but it could be on the 1st scroll of sealing that senju learn from uzumaki they are more or less cousins who traded secrets over time

 

[AGuyWithAMelon]

ITACHI can block kunai. He's the most gifted shuriken ninja EVER. most ninja probably couldn't block minato's kunai

 

[1V4N]

Guys it's not just about blocking the kunai, most of you are arguing on pure speculation of what would one do and we don't even know the full aspect of 4th's power the man who died protecting the konoha, sealing the kyuubi and defeating madara never went full out, no facts needed just think about it you are TRYING to find the crack in ONE of his jutsus and we can only assume how many he had at his disposal, bring the facts or stop hating.

 

[kingkwong]

I think Itachi is very gifted at shuriken throwing but there are no facts that support that other ninjas cannot block the kunai as well. However I believe the kunai being used are specially made.
I think that this could make it:
harder to remover when in stuck in place
Faster to throw
Harder to change course after being thrown
Has a greater mass and therefore less affected when hit by other objects

I'm not a fanboy but I realise the power of TFG because of it simplicity. Minato must have many other jutsus but throwing a kunai and being able to teleport to any marked kunai or marked area is just over powered. I know it doesn't mean instant death but most ninjas are likely to die when they encounter it.
A ninja's greatest weapon is stealth and secrecy. Other ninjas had no idea that he would be able to teleport to a marked kunai. First they think that is some kind of yellow flash jutsu where he is going really fast. Smart ninjas will realise that he is teleporting to his kunais. However he can teleport to any marked place. This will give him a major advantage in any battle, therefore people exaggerate it as being instant death.

Scenario:
Throws kunai near you.
You do not deflect it because its not aimed at you.
He teleports to it and attacks.
You somehow survive.
he has marked you.
he teleports to you and attacks again.
You somehow survive again.
You also somehow remove the marker.
Now that you know his technique, there are still kunai around and you have no idea what areas have been marked or not therefore you decide to move to another location to fight.
Now you have to block all incoming kunai.
Never go anywhere he has been incase it has been marked.
You now have to memorise where every kunai is and marked area, forget and your dead.
Hope that he hasn't hidden one somewhere and hope that he is running out of kunai and cannot summon more.

This is all based on he assumption that Minato is alone, your on level with him and can keep up with him, he isn't using other jutsus and that he hasn't already set up the area beforehand. Can people see how why this is "instant death"? It's such a basic move yet so effective. Anyone else with a better scenario?

EDIT!!
Just found proof that the custom kunai is heavier.

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[xxSAGExx]

There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:

1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed

Granted he won't throw the kunai

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, but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
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This is to:

1. Avoid being tagged
2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan

You can anticipate

1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you

Also:

1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai

In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):

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Highest ranking jutsu

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Their use is quite self-explanatory

• Izanagi
• Susano’o
• Amaterasu
• Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

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High-class ninjutsu

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Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:

1. Diversionary tactic
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Wind affinity

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High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

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Water affinity

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Medical ninjutsu/Healing

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Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

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• Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

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1. Gate release
2. Lightning Armour technique
3. Senjutsu augmented speed
4. Jinchuriki speed
5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
6. Swift release
7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility

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3. Kamui
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Flight

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1. Oonoki
2. Muu
3. Gaara’s sand
4. Deidara’s clay
5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
   --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
6. Nagato
7. …

Kekkei genkai

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Targetting the kunai

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1. Amaterasu kunai
2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

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Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings

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To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain

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Water –

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or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

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Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).

1. Minato can't harm you
2. Minato can't outpace you
3. Minato can't get near you

please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.

I don't remember Minato having to do hand signs for his FTG, so unless you have proof he does you point is invalid there. You didn't input the fact that Minato can summon toads to his aid. As for Minato's chakra, we saw him using a high level sealing jutsus on kushina while she was having Naruto so he was using alot of chakra to hold Back the fox. We don't know if Minato have fire, wind, water, earth, or lightning jutsus or if he can use sage mode since he can summon toads and surpassed Jiraiya. Ninjas were told to flee if they saw Minato in the war with the rock ninjas which is where we see Minato teleported between his kunias and take out multiple enemies. Here's a question, why couldnt the rock ninjas use jutsus or throw their kunias at minato's to counter when they had a army of them?

 

[Anbu Shinobi]

Guys it's not just about blocking the kunai, most of you are arguing on pure speculation of what would one do and we don't even know the full aspect of 4th's power the man who died protecting the konoha, sealing the kyuubi and defeating madara never went full out, no facts needed just think about it you are TRYING to find the crack in ONE of his jutsus and we can only assume how many he had at his disposal, bring the facts or stop hating.

im still confused on this the fight with 4th and so called madara, if the 4th died and naruto mom died and that event lead to the uchiha one of the most powerful bloodline being killed off really weakening the leaf and create a rift in the village who really won that fight Anbu Intel!!!!!

 

[gaarasama]

well lets see althouhg you can block all the kunai of the he still cuold set a mark on the ground or even in itachis kunai+minato was the hokage meaning he read the scroll wich contains all the jutsu in the village,so he can easly do copies of his special kunai.
dont get me wrong itachi is really stron one of the strongest of all bot he is still no match for minato who would have rasengan FTGTand all the jutsus of the village

 

[Disquiet]

lol i wasnt talking about you i more or less been saying what you been saying but in a different way Anbu Intel!!!!

oh, okay

 

[Disquiet]

let me put this a different way, I'm going to use orochimaru, raikages, and kisame, what would the ftg "alone" do to them? once he teleports he must then use an attack and we know that these shinobi can take a lot of physical abuse, so then he must use stronger attacks that would consume chakra, my point is he can't beat everyone with ftg ALONE! I really do hope that you guys can see this point, the ftg is unbelievably strong but it's not unstoppable. notice I didn't use itachi, I didn't want to start that again xd

 

[1V4N]

let me put this a different way, I'm going to use orochimaru, raikages, and kisame, what would the ftg "alone" do to them? once he teleports he must then use an attack and we know that these shinobi can take a lot of physical abuse, so then he must use stronger attacks that would consume chakra, my point is he can't beat everyone with ftg ALONE! I really do hope that you guys can see this point, the ftg is unbelievably strong but it's not unstoppable. notice I didn't use itachi, I didn't want to start that again xd

I agree but you did not bring any facts saying how to stop FTG you just stated he needs some firepower with FTG to take them down.