Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

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You have some good points.

You can prepare a defense
Yes, The best kind of defense for FTG is a static defense (lighting armor/susanoo)

Unless you have super quick reaction speed getting a jutsu off befor minato plants a rasegan in your face will be tough.

"You can anticipate
FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
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Kinda of hard to anticipate, Also FTG doesn't require any hand seals.
You also think Minato would go for the obvious choice and teleport to the closest kunai knowing thats what his opponent will be expecting it because its the most obvious move.

Also he throws multiple kunai at once, You cannot stop them all, even if you try you are open for a counter attack.
He can't plant a rasengan in your face if you're not tagged and have blocked his kunai. Any jounin can react quickly enough to form a jutsu to then defend against him if does reach you

FTG does use hand seals, remember when Kakashi said that Madara's s/t technique exceeds that of the fourth's?
His hand seals will help you anticipate for an oncoming attack. And no jounin is dumb, they'd obviously know which kunai to react to when he teleports. That is if he can throw a kunai past you

That's why I've placed Nagashi or a jutsu of that nature as a requirement to fight off FTG. So he can't rasengan or kunai, you're always protected from his close range attacks
 

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why minato is such a beast

some of his jutsu that just out weighs many...


not only can he teleport him self he can deflect shit

(you couldnt even see the hand seals)




itachi would have got merked if this was him minato is way faster

with moving speed and attacking



again no hand signs also note how many times he uses ftg
and see how tired he gets


and look 2 fast as shinobi dashing at each other

and he pulls this off in mid dash

something itachi could never drem of

look how close they are 2 each other



minato is smart he always throws his kunai b4 a battle even starts






and again here is him throwing multi kunai



ima bring a link fro the movie right here



bam him using a kunai tech that is a barage



also this is the figth between A and minato

look at him jump at his back


from the tree that took an incredible amount of strength and speed




and then in mid action he doges bee and hits him

something itachi could never do..

the battle would have ended here...


look



point being it takes alot to beat him he isnt some joke that can be beat with mere multi shuriken in which he can also preform
 
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1.Minatos raw speed is the fastest in the naruto world i believe
2.FTG is a haxxed abilty add this to his raw speed and i can only think of two ninja featured in the manga who could beat him.
3.If this is purely about FTG and not about minato i agree with you on some parts about it like that he has to get close to you or get you with his kunai which can be repeled but its a haxxed abilty especially with death reaper seal and his raw speed.
 

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Minato got the title "Yellow flash" because of his speed, Not because of FTG.

Why would they give him a title if his speed is only jounin level?
You underestimate jounin. Jounin are powerful and quick - Kakashi, Gai
those are just a few examples

Your assuming that his speed is jonin level.
People gave him that nickname for a reason.
And if he is only jonin level speed then all jonin need to have nickname
Kakashi - white flash
Gai - green flash
-_____-
Yes, the reason was FTG.

Jounin are indeed fast, but they can't literally teleport like Minato
 

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No, B can't use it. How long did it take Minato to create the Rasengan? and he's a genius

No, Neji can't use it.

the third's technique is probably A or S rank, I doubt it's simple.
where did Minato use it in the manga?

he's using FTG.

sheesh, and I don't you said you weren't a fangirl

wow, butthurt much?
killer bee cant use rassengan lmao

4th learned rassengan from a tailed beast bomb idiot!

im pretty sure if neji put enouh time he can use his knowlege of rotation to use rassengan

your not being open minded your just trying to make it seem like minato isnt that tough in which he is thats why you dont here anything about itachi or sasuke or A or killer saying run dont fight him just run lmao every time the fourth was on the battle field they were like run dont fight just run!
 
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He can't plant a rasengan in your face if you're not tagged and have blocked his kunai. Any jounin can react quickly enough to form a jutsu to then defend against him if does reach you

FTG does use hand seals, remember when Kakashi said that Madara's s/t technique exceeds that of the fourth's?
His hand seals will help you anticipate for an oncoming attack. And no jounin is dumb, they'd obviously know which kunai to react to when he teleports. That is if he can throw a kunai past you

That's why I've placed Nagashi or a jutsu of that nature as a requirement to fight off FTG. So he can't rasengan or kunai, you're always protected from his close range attacks
The whole point in minato creating ftg and making it unique is for it to not have hand seal. Seriously. Do you read the manga. Everytime he used ftg he just telelports. No hand seals. He only uses hand seals with s/t barrier.
 

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killer bee cant use rassengan lmao

4th learned rassengan from a tailed beast bomb idiot!

im pretty sure if neji put enouh time he can use his knowlege of rotation to use rassengan

your not being open minded your just trying to make it seem like minato isnt that tough in which he is thats why you dont here anything about itachi or sasuke or A or killer saying run dont fight him just run lmao every time the fourth was on the battle field they were like run dont fight just run!
why do you keep calling me an idiot? have I offended you?
 

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You underestimate jounin. Jounin are powerful and quick - Kakashi, Gai
those are just a few examples



Yes, the reason was FTG.

Jounin are indeed fast, but they can't literally teleport like Minato
You need to go look up ftg.
Minato used what kushina taught him to make his ftg tech unique. Unique as in no hand seals. And no smoke while he's teleporting. How can you see a yellow flash when HE NOT THERE. It's called SPACE TIME NINJUTSU! That is proof that his regular speed it above others. Ex: in kakashi gaiden when he saved kakashi. She used ftg. Did you see a yellow flash? No you just saw him appear there and grab kakashi
 

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He can't plant a rasengan in your face if you're not tagged and have blocked his kunai. Any jounin can react quickly enough to form a jutsu to then defend against him if does reach you

FTG does use hand seals, remember when Kakashi said that Madara's s/t technique exceeds that of the fourth's?
His hand seals will help you anticipate for an oncoming attack. And no jounin is dumb, they'd obviously know which kunai to react to when he teleports. That is if he can throw a kunai past you

That's why I've placed Nagashi or a jutsu of that nature as a requirement to fight off FTG. So he can't rasengan or kunai, you're always protected from his close range attacks
Do you know Nagashi costs chakra aswell.

No ftg doesn't use hand seals.

A attacks minato, Look at minato he was 1free hand and in the other a kunai


Also minato though a kunai at madara

Then formed a rasengan

Teleports and hits madara with it




Unless you can link minato using handseals befor he teleports you are wrong.

Unless he can form hand seals with 1hand in an instant.

P.S

Yes he used hand seals to teleport the Fox's beast bomb but that was a S/T barrier.
 

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why do you keep calling me an idiot? have I offended you?
no dude cuz your a hater

and you said that bee cant use rassengan when the moved came from what he can do lmao

thats why i call u an idiot

but other than that u made the thread to hate on a dope character why?

the way i see is there are some characters you can debate and there are some you cant in naruto there is alot you cant debate are tough thats why i dont like discrediting the ones who are tough like most kage!

i love all naruto characters but some you can just know they would get merked its called being logical but other than that i love all naruto characters
 

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He can't plant a rasengan in your face if you're not tagged and have blocked his kunai. Any jounin can react quickly enough to form a jutsu to then defend against him if does reach you

FTG does use hand seals, remember when Kakashi said that Madara's s/t technique exceeds that of the fourth's?
His hand seals will help you anticipate for an oncoming attack. And no jounin is dumb, they'd obviously know which kunai to react to when he teleports. That is if he can throw a kunai past you

That's why I've placed Nagashi or a jutsu of that nature as a requirement to fight off FTG. So he can't rasengan or kunai, you're always protected from his close range attacks
No it doesn't. Minato has never used hand seals for his FTG jutsu. God some of you have no clue what you're talking about.
 

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why minato is such a beast

some of his jutsu that just out weighs many...


not only can he teleport him self he can deflect shit

(you couldnt even see the hand seals)




itachi would have got merked if this was him minato is way faster

with moving speed and attacking



again no hand signs also note how many times he uses ftg
and see how tired he gets


and look 2 fast as shinobi dashing at each other

and he pulls this off in mid dash

something itachi could never drem of

look how close they are 2 each other



minato is smart he always throws his kunai b4 a battle even starts






and again here is him throwing multi kunai



ima bring a link fro the movie right here



bam him using a kunai tech that is a barage



also this is the figth between A and minato

look at him jump at his back


from the tree that took an incredible amount of strength and speed




and then in mid action he doges bee and hits him

something itachi could never do..

the battle would have ended here...


look



point being it takes alot to beat him he isnt some joke that can be beat with mere multi shuriken in which he can also preform
man, arguing with you is exhausting

let's see, the first pic was of Minato transporting tbb - that has no relevance

okay, then the next few were of Minato fighting Tobi. Fine, his speed feats are impressive but they can be matched by several characters. And the point remains that his base speed was really only jounin level. his reflexes, perhaps may have been even a little better

anyway, I said you have to block the kunai to stop them from going past you. This would avoid an attack from the rear

then you need a defensive jutsu like nagashi, to stop him from harming you if
he manages to teleport close to you
 

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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.
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This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
you gained my respect man , mad mad respect , you had that post at its best with a respective tone, detailed explanations and 0% assumption/fantasising/bullsh*t . you did well with that, and i couldnt be bothered to explain to people that minato/ftg is being overhyped , but you done it well xd . any fanboy opinions are objective and dont change the facts in your post.
 

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ok you know what ill say this if some scrub had ftg he would get beat but minato with ftg is damn near immposible to beat lmao

and ill even say this

theoretical ways to beat him

1.by over powering the shit out of him and making all his attacks like ftg kunai stab
ftg rassengan useless

2.moving his kunai with gravity wood style or any other land scape changing techs to where you can trap him and kill him

3.being just as fast as him

4.a combination of 1 and 3
(in my opinon if A continued that fight with minato he would have eventually won since ration armor eats rassengans)
 

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2 things, ftg doesn't require hand seals and he can copy one kunai into hundreds with shadow clone shuriken and he can teleport any elements you fire at him away so hard to kill him with that even with his kunai far from you/close to him.
 

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man, arguing with you is exhausting

let's see, the first pic was of Minato transporting tbb - that has no relevance

okay, then the next few were of Minato fighting Tobi. Fine, his speed feats are impressive but they can be matched by several characters. And the point remains that his base speed was really only jounin level. his reflexes, perhaps may have been even a little better

anyway, I said you have to block the kunai to stop them from going past you. This would avoid an attack from the rear

then you need a defensive jutsu like nagashi, to stop him from harming you if
he manages to teleport close to you
You really need to stop because you have no clue what you're talking about. Minato got his nickname from his base speed, not his FTG jutsu. Meaning his base speed is considerably above jounin level. Here's an example of it right here( ).
 
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