Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

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his base speed is great, but it can be matched especially by jounin. Minato didn't know the third's jutsu so that doesn't matter
and what makes you say that is that jutsu a kekkai genkai??? no he was a genius bro go watch naruto shippuden lost tower movie he uses it in there also when he is figting A and killer be throws lost of kunai thats the first thing he does

and wow so now every is as fast as minato base speed??
no fail bro his base speed is his flash speed and his ftg is instant naruto is as fast as minato base speed his flash speed becasue naruto is not instant its a flash!
 

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let me say this for example

look at the picture where sasuke and itachi are clashing kunai..

ok lets just say that sasuke is minato just for example

so while he is clashing kunai we know minato is faster at throwing them then him

if you seen the last movie of naruto shippuden he does some outrageos kunai tech.

but regardless there clashing and kunai are flying every where one of those kunai are gonna be in itachi blind spot he is not gonna keep all the kunai away from his back you cant just assume that he is like neji and can use kunai like rotaion and even if he keeps it away from his back minato can teleport to a kunai on the side and trhow more to over power that side in which the kunai in front of him are still coming becuz tele porting is instant so it will be a rap cuz if any kunai get close rassengan or tag them with the mark and its over stop underestimating minato!
Omg well put *claps +rep
 

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I agree with the thread maker.

im glad someone actually doesnt believe that Ftg is unbeatable.

no disrespect to you 4th fans though.
or ftg fans. theyre both cool but not unbeatable
 

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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.
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This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
and this is fact??? you are assuming that ppl can just get these off in time like minato is a scrub with ftg...lmao im pretty sure everyone has tried this out in some ways besides maybe chidori and allmighty push and wood style but besides that throwing kunai to deflect other kunai will only get u so far...everyone ran from him cuz he was such a beast and killed u fast he was in and out lmao

did you not wacth kakashi gaiden how he was in 2 battles at the same time he was like kakashi you cool while smoke and ash was still falling from his clothes lmao he is tough and its sad that you even made this thread discrediting a hokage and naruto's dad at that..
 
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err yes But not everyone can use nagashi and not everyone is a prodigy like sasuke also..
ermm this is bullshit u just countered one of his jutsus by so much explanation i am sure he has some other techs up his sleeve to use in combination with the FTG xd
it was his signature jutsu, the greatest in his arsenal. And Nagashi was just an example, I listed alternate types of jutsu in the spoiler. It just has to be similar to Nagashi in nature
 

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and what makes you say that is that jutsu a kekkai genkai??? no he was a genius bro go watch naruto shippuden lost tower movie he uses it in there also when he is figting A and killer be throws lost of kunai thats the first thing he does

and wow so now every is as fast as minato base speed??
no fail bro his base speed is his flash speed and his ftg is instant naruto is as fast as minato base speed his flash speed becasue naruto is not instant its a flash!
Rasengan is not a kekkei genkai, how many people can perform it?

Chidori is not a kekkei genkai, how many people can perform it?

you don't teach people your any of your best jutsu.

And no, the Yellow Flash name stems from his FTG. He's fast, but not ridiculously fast
 

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he does he can use shit to delfect a tbb really.....and that ws the full power nine tails stop sleeping on the 4th imo

the ppl that can maybe beat or have a good chance at beating 4th
so6p
nagato complete
madara present
1st and 2nd hokage

maybe third hokage

kage from cloud stone and mist villages

but if your not a kage you get merked
 

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let me say this for example

look at the picture where sasuke and itachi are clashing kunai..

ok lets just say that sasuke is minato just for example

so while he is clashing kunai we know minato is faster at throwing them then him

if you seen the last movie of naruto shippuden he does some outrageos kunai tech.

but regardless there clashing and kunai are flying every where one of those kunai are gonna be in itachi blind spot he is not gonna keep all the kunai away from his back you cant just assume that he is like neji and can use kunai like rotaion and even if he keeps it away from his back minato can teleport to a kunai on the side and trhow more to over power that side in which the kunai in front of him are still coming becuz tele porting is instant so it will be a rap cuz if any kunai get close rassengan or tag them with the mark and its over stop underestimating minato!
well, first, kunai are much larger, so it would impossible to throw that many at any given time.

No, Minato isn't faster than Itachi. Itachi's hand seal speed, and weapon throwing skills are highly praised, in addition to that he has the Sharingan.

that's why I said you need a defense like Chidori Nagashi, to defend yourself and thwart him off when he nears you.

Teleporting requires chakra, Minato can't teleport indefinitely. Teleporting requires hand seals, you can't teleport and throw several kunai at the same time
 

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Rasengan is not a kekkei genkai, how many people can perform it?

Chidori is not a kekkei genkai, how many people can perform it?

you don't teach people your any of your best jutsu.

And no, the Yellow Flash name stems from his FTG. He's fast, but not ridiculously fast
ok idiot...

kakshi can use rassengan j-man can use it im pretty sure b can use it since he knows tbb
im pretty sure neji can use it since he uses rotaion and they are fundamentally the same thing
but this is a simple tech its not like its hard to use and sasuke and itachi used the 3rds tech when they were clashing kunai and the 4th has used it in the movie and the manga

ok so when something instant do you see it do you even see whats left??
no

when you see a flash u see whats left like an after image

if naruto is called an orange flash bcuz he is instant then he might as well have ftg but if he is called that bcuz he is as fast as his dads physical speed than that makes alot more sense cuz i think it imposible unless your goku to move with your legs as fast as light!
 

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he does he can use shit to delfect a tbb really.....and that ws the full power nine tails stop sleeping on the 4th imo

the ppl that can maybe beat or have a good chance at beating 4th
so6p
nagato complete
madara present
1st and 2nd hokage

maybe third hokage

kage from cloud stone and mist villages

but if your not a kage you get merked
It's called s/t barrier :D
 

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well, first, kunai are much larger, so it would impossible to throw that many at any given time.

No, Minato isn't faster than Itachi. Itachi's hand seal speed, and weapon throwing skills are highly praised, in addition to that he has the Sharingan.

that's why I said you need a defense like Chidori Nagashi, to defend yourself and thwart him off when he nears you.

Teleporting requires chakra, Minato can't teleport indefinitely. Teleporting requires hand seals, you can't teleport and throw several kunai at the same time
ok im bout to prove all this wrong right now ill be back..
 

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You have some good points.

You can prepare a defense
Yes, The best kind of defense for FTG is a static defense (lighting armor/susanoo)

Unless you have super quick reaction speed getting a jutsu off befor minato plants a rasegan in your face will be tough.

"You can anticipate
FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
"

Kinda of hard to anticipate, Also FTG doesn't require any hand seals.
You also think Minato would go for the obvious choice and teleport to the closest kunai knowing thats what his opponent will be expecting it because its the most obvious move.

Also he throws multiple kunai at once, You cannot stop them all, even if you try you are open for a counter attack.
 

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and this is fact??? you are assuming that ppl can just get these off in time like minato is a scrub with ftg...lmao im pretty sure everyone has tried this out in some ways besides maybe chidori and allmighty push and wood style but besides that throwing kunai to deflect other kunai will only get u so far...everyone ran from him cuz he was such a beast and killed u fast he was in and out lmao

did you not wacth kakashi gaiden how he was in 2 battles at the same time he was like kakashi you cool while smoke and ash was still falling from his clothes lmao he is tough and its sad that you even made this thread discrediting a hokage and naruto's dad at that..
I said jounin, not any random ninja.

Again his speed is probably only jounin level, without FTG
 

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ok idiot...

kakshi can use rassengan j-man can use it im pretty sure b can use it since he knows tbb
im pretty sure neji can use it since he uses rotaion and they are fundamentally the same thing
but this is a simple tech its not like its hard to use and sasuke and itachi used the 3rds tech when they were clashing kunai and the 4th has used it in the movie and the manga

ok so when something instant do you see it do you even see whats left??
no

when you see a flash u see whats left like an after image

if naruto is called an orange flash bcuz he is instant then he might as well have ftg but if he is called that bcuz he is as fast as his dads physical speed than that makes alot more sense cuz i think it imposible unless your goku to move with your legs as fast as light!
No, B can't use it. How long did it take Minato to create the Rasengan? and he's a genius

No, Neji can't use it.

the third's technique is probably A or S rank, I doubt it's simple.
where did Minato use it in the manga?

he's using FTG.

sheesh, and I don't you said you weren't a fangirl

wow, butthurt much?
 

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I said jounin, not any random ninja.

Again his speed is probably only jounin level, without FTG
Your assuming that his speed is jonin level.
People gave him that nickname for a reason.
And if he is only jonin level speed then all jonin need to have nickname
Kakashi - white flash
Gai - green flash
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