Flying Susanoo is a big disappointment

[NukaCola]

Kishimoto didn't mention how fast Naruto characters are, it's not anybody's fault to underestimate Naruto characters' speed. If Kishimoto says Naruto is mach 100, nobody will say Naruto characters are slow. From what we have seen, the upper limit of Naruto characters speed isn't too high

The thing is that you can't judge the speed of the characters in a drawing.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

Bait thread?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

The thing is that you can't judge the speed of the characters in a drawing.

Yes you can if it's clearly stated

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[Sonzumaki]

Well, the Flying Susano'o did slice trough several Chibaku Tensei's larger than Nagato's, so...An overall dissapointment? Yes. But fodder/weak? **** no.

 

[BLAZE]

Bait thread

 

[NukaCola]

Yes you can if it's clearly stated

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If it is stated then you are not judging anything.

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Lel, Kishi has shown that Gai bent space to a great extent just through sheer speed which is only possible at sub relativistic to relativistic speed.....Itachi and Kakashi reacted to natural lightning which is mach 280 and above.....ethereal transmission technique is light speed, Gai creates fire just by punching which is only possible at hypersonic punching speed since he doesn't use chakra.....he has stated that Haku moves at light speed while using ice crystal mirror techniques (which makes sense as he moves due to reflection of light).....Naruto's shunshin has always been compared to hirashin which is instant.......genine lee, sasuke and one tailed Naruto have broken sound barrier and... currrent Naruto and Sasuke have speed comparable to juubi jins and Kaguya.
It is actually Bleach that hardly has any quantifiable speed feats ...just because u r faster than the eyes of other opponent doesn't mean that u r faster than another verse....people have this misconception because the animation quality of bleach is better than Naruto's anime...U_U

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Well, the Flying Susano'o did slice trough several Chibaku Tensei's larger than Nagato's, so...An overall dissapointment? Yes. But fodder/weak? **** no.

I didn't say it's a fodder, I expected a lot more from it. But it was nothing impressive...

 

[BLAZE]

Is it only me or nukacola is soloing assumptions of op saying verse1 solos verse2 XD

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Lel, Kishi has shown that Gai bent space to a great extent just through sheer speed which is only possible at sub relativistic to relativistic speed.....Itachi and Kakashi reacted to natural lightning which is mach 280 and above.....ethereal transmission technique is light speed, Gai creates fire just by punching which is only possible at hypersonic punching speed since he doesn't use chakra.....he has stated that Haku moves at light speed while using ice crystal mirror techniques (which makes sense as he moves due to reflection of light).....Naruto's shunshin has always been compared to hirashin which is instant.......genine lee, sasuke and one tailed Naruto have broken sound barrier and... currrent Naruto and Sasuke have speed comparable to juubi jins and Kaguya.
It is actually Bleach that hardly has any quantifiable speed feats ...just because u r faster than the eyes of other opponent doesn't mean that u r faster than another verse....people have this misconception because the animation quality of bleach is better than Naruto's anime...U_U

Reaction feat is not the same as foot speed/flight speed
Space time travel is not the same as foot speed/flight speed

We don't know what speed is required to bend space, and it's been done only once in Naruto.
How fast are Juubi Jin exactly? I don't find any of them too impressive. May we will ge to know once the anime catches up?

Truth is, naruto characters look slow because they are slow...

 

[Joseph Gomes]

If it is stated then you are not judging anything.

What are you getting at? If we don't have statements then we make assumptions. And Naruto characters don't appear too fast based on the manga. Maybe the anime will clarify how fast Naruto characters are in.

If we have statements with proof then it's a fact to be acknowledged...

 

[ethris]

Such bait. Not impressed.

in other words, u cant think of anything to defend your favorite fodder.

 

[BLAZE]

in other words, u cant think of anything to defend your favorite fodder.

so sasuke is fodder wow.What can we say about ur IQ tbh

 

[Sir Cool Blizzard]

Reaction feat is not the same as foot speed/flight speed
Space time travel is not the same as foot speed/flight speed

We don't know what speed is required to bend space, and it's been done only once in Naruto.
How fast are Juubi Jin exactly? I don't find any of them too impressive. May we will ge to know once the anime catches up?

Truth is, naruto characters look slow because they are slow...

Lel.....that gin's Bankai feat was also fighting and reaction feat.....talk about double standards.....anyway I was talking about overall speed which includes everything- travel speed, reaction speed and fighting speed.
Just because u don't find them more impressive doesn't mean anything and actually by calcs juubito and above have speed from four digit mach to sub-relativistic accepted everywhere.....far greater than bleach calcs which yields low result since kubo doesn't draw the terrain properly....his mountains have sizes comparable to trees.....so either way naruto's speed >> bleach verse AS OF NOW.
Oh.....and that bending space thing we can also calculate his speed using the energy required to bend the gudoudama stick(that tanked the juubi dama) which will give us his speed in the lower end ....that is even huge......and seriously speed has never been quantified in Bleach either just because everyone in Bleach fight by blitzing each other doesn't tell us anything about their speed!!

 

[NukaCola]

What are you getting at? If we don't have statements then we make assumptions. And Naruto characters don't appear too fast based on the manga. Maybe the anime will clarify how fast Naruto characters are in.

If we have statements with proof then it's a fact to be acknowledged...

The anime is non-canon

 

[TrollingSage]

What are you getting at? If we don't have statements then we make assumptions. And Naruto characters don't appear too fast based on the manga. Maybe the anime will clarify how fast Naruto characters are in.

If we have statements with proof then it's a fact to be acknowledged...

Bleach characters aren't fast at all. They're only "fast" when they use shunpo, which NV characters call shunshin.