[Tier] Fleet Admiral Sakazuki vs Gear 4th Luffy

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Then why did he say "ngh" when he was hit? It clearly hurt him.
They clearly hit his lava body not his real body. The damage done is minimal if at all because he transformed into lava as was shown. He is likely groaning because like he said he is irritated that he has to fight haki users which he needs to be careful around and he really didn't want to fight them, he wanted luffy, so he was irritated.
 
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He did infact blitz Doflamingo who is in the same tier if not 1 tier above Jozu just saying.
He barely won against doflamingo who was weakened by law significantly, and luffy had the help of an entire town and his crew to save him from the birdcage and the help of many people keep on doffy at bay. Without that luffy would have lost. Jozu has parasite put on him while distracted by croc and he later was free to fight aokiji and you put doffy above Jozu simply because of that??? He broke out from parasite and his diamond body isn't being broken by the likes of G4 when it stopped Mihawks slash.
 

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He barely won against doflamingo who was weakened by law significantly, and luffy had the help of an entire town and his crew to save him from the birdcage and the help of many people keep on doffy at bay. Without that luffy would have lost. Jozu has parasite put on him while distracted by croc and he later was free to fight aokiji and you put doffy above Jozu simply because of that??? He broke out from parasite and his diamond body isn't being broken by the likes of G4 when it stopped Mihawks slash.
1- OFC he barely won Luffy has drawbacks but if he could keep G4 up without tiring out Doflamingo would lose med diff at best.

2- Quit making up excuses for the guy just saying.

3- I said their on the same tier or Doflamingo is possible stronger.

4- He was never hit with Mihawk blade he grabbed the sides of it. . .


He didn't blitz Doflamingo, plus it was a Doflamingo who's organs were being held together by strIng GTFO.
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People hella underestimating Luffy. I don't know why people bringing up Doffy like unlimited G4 wouldn't have rekt him low diff.

Akainu mid diffs at most.
 

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1- OFC he barely won Luffy has drawbacks but if he could keep G4 up without tiring out Doflamingo would lose med diff at best.

2- Quit making up excuses for the guy just saying.

3- I said their on the same tier or Doflamingo is possible stronger.

4- He was never hit with Mihawk blade he grabbed the sides of it. .
 
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Lol I'm not the only one saying this. Vista and Marco couldn't even touch him. And their haki is arguably better than luffys.
They could touch him, he just has a way of nullifying even haki strikes but Luffy will pwn him because he is the main character who will be pirate king level and once that happens he will be strong enough to one shot admirals.
 

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1- OFC he barely won Luffy has drawbacks but if he could keep G4 up without tiring out Doflamingo would lose med diff at best.

2- Quit making up excuses for the guy just saying.

3- I said their on the same tier or Doflamingo is possible stronger.

4- He was never hit with Mihawk blade he grabbed the sides of it. . .


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Doflamingo was confused on how he got to Dressrosa he pretty much reacted to everyone OTHER ATTACK.
 

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They could touch him, he just has a way of nullifying even haki strikes but Luffy will pwn him because he is the main character who will be pirate king level and once that happens he will be strong enough to one shot admirals.
We call logias intangible meaning they can't be touched. So if akainu remained intangible despite haki, they didn't touch him. And this thread is obviously about current luffy. Not EoS luffy.
 

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Any Haki will in fact bypass any logia user. The bold in your own statement proves it. That's all that matters, if they can make contact with a person while he's using Logia then they have successfully bypassed its intangibility. Their Haki was inferior to Akainu's Haki, not his logia. In no case will Logia ever be superior to Haki, which is exactly what your initial post suggested. Thus it has nothing to do with bypassing Akainu's intangibility, but to do with bypassing his Haki.




Again, it has nothing to do with bypassing Logia intangibility. It has to do with bypassing his Haki, and they couldn't. If Luffy's CoA is inferior to theirs (which is probable) then he won't be able to bypass Akainu's Haki. Stop saying Logia intangibility, it is misleading.
But it isn't misleading, it's exactly what happened. Marco and Vista attacking Akainu was to the same effect as someone without Haki trying to attack him. All they did was slash through magma as the scan depicted. Akainu's real body was completely untouched thus, they did not bypass his intangibility. I don't know how you can claim they bypassed his logia intangibility when the scan specifically shows them failing to do just that. Akainu groaned and was irritated because he had to deal with more Haki users that he had to be somewhat careful of. They didn't harm him whatsoever. If Luffy tries to attack Akainu he will more than likely produce the same result. His hits will go through him (failing to bypass his logia intangibility) and get murdered.
 

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Akainu mid diff. Gear 4 is unlimited but Luffy's haki and stamina isn't. Also if/when Akainu tags Luffy it will do heavy damage unlike Doflamingo. Luffy will still be able to tag Akainu plenty and Akainu will feel the blows. Luffy will force Akainu to be serious.

Nope, Luffy is not top tier.

Luffy couldn't beat Doflamingo (alone). First Doffy was battleworn from his battle against Law who put decent fight to him and was kindy of bad match up for Doffy, considering his room ability. Luffy fought him after that and even then he couldn't win because he run out of time.

Dolfamingo is at best around as strong as admiral. Sakazuki as Fleet Admiral stands even above and on par with a Yonko.

So no Luffy still has way to go before a top tier.
Lol your post contradicts itself. Doflamingo is not as strong as an Admiral, for if he were.....Luffy would be able to beat Akainu given unlimited G4.

Also Luffy might not be top tier, but Luffy during G4 sure as hell is.

He barely won against doflamingo who was weakened by law significantly, and luffy had the help of an entire town and his crew to save him from the birdcage and the help of many people keep on doffy at bay. Without that luffy would have lost. Jozu has parasite put on him while distracted by croc and he later was free to fight aokiji and you put doffy above Jozu simply because of that??? He broke out from parasite and his diamond body isn't being broken by the likes of G4 when it stopped Mihawks slash.
I keep seeing this ridiculous comparison. Mihawk's slashes are almost entirely irrelevant. Jozu is built for cutting attacks, its the same with Mr.1, he said swordsman couldn't beat him. Luffy would've handled him much easier than Zoro could because he was immune to cutting attacks (those who couldn't cut steel).

Not even WB could replicate the feat Jozu did. He would probably need to fend it off with a punch or his Bisento. Jozu > Slashes. Blunt force with strong enough Haki should do damage to Jozu.
 
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We call logias intangible meaning they can't be touched. So if akainu remained intangible despite haki, they didn't touch him. And this thread is obviously about current luffy. Not EoS luffy.
What he did was dodge their strike even though it somewhat hurt
 
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