Flaws in Sasuke's Plan
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Da Best Ever
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Wrong you started off wrong saying the world is finally at peace and that's not true. All we know is kaguya and madara are gone we don't know what the other shinobi are thinking. Sure they all would be friendly now but that won't last because as long as there are people there will be bad people just as much as good people and conflict between people.
Naruto's ideals are a dream and is not possible, there can be no complete peace in the world. Sasuke and Nagato actually had plans that had a very slim chance but more than a dream unlike naruto. Sasuke isn't doing anything wrong. The bijuu are weapons and he is only imprisoning them in ct's and I get killing the kage isn't a good thing since killing is always wrong but even so the reason why he is killing them is right because they are part of the bad the naruto world has endured, albeit he doesn't have to kill them but he could rid them of their title but we know uchiha go to the extreme for a point to be made.
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Naruto's ideals are a dream and is not possible, there can be no complete peace in the world. Sasuke and Nagato actually had plans that had a very slim chance but more than a dream unlike naruto. Sasuke isn't doing anything wrong. The bijuu are weapons and he is only imprisoning them in ct's and I get killing the kage isn't a good thing since killing is always wrong but even so the reason why he is killing them is right because they are part of the bad the naruto world has endured, albeit he doesn't have to kill them but he could rid them of their title but we know uchiha go to the extreme for a point to be made.
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Ageha Jaeger
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Lol
OT: He dove in headfirst without a second thought... smh. We'll see how well his master plan works out.
Darth Uchiha
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There was a man named Adolf that tried to achieve peace Sasuke's way, he failed, and became regarded as one of history's greatest villains.
WalksInShadows
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every last member of the alliance is committed to Naruto's way. And the part where you say Sasuke isn't doing anything wrong is hilarious. Supporters of Sasuke's "jihad" bring up what was done to his clan and others, yet attempt to make Sasuke's agenda out to be perfectly harmless and don't bother mentioning his role in there being a 4th Great Shinobi War in the first place.
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Da Best Ever
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Each of those kage are 50 plus years old so that means they lived through many generations and have been a part of the wars and conflicts between nations. So that means they are a part of the bad things but some are a part of the good like tsunade creating medical ninjutsu for the entire shinobi world and starting the shinobi system. If naruto's dream world comes true then there would actually be no shinobi since the majority of missions revolves around conflict.
Sasuke is not doing what madara did and madara actually wanted peace albeit a forced peace but still peace, sasuke wants peace but he wants the world to be free of the hazardous things like bijuu and dictators like unruly Ay.
Darth Uchiha
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...Gaara is 17, Mei is in her 30s, and only Onoki was hokage during any of the wars.
Oh really, so, he either wants a world with no leaders, or he leads the world (even if he elects rulers under him, he's still the ruler of the world).
Oh, calm down. All you know is that Sasuke wants to break the system before he rebuilds it. U know nothing else about it. Sasuke could very well want the world to plunge into the chaos like before the village system and among the ashes he start his own village that will be an improvement of the current system. He did say that he wants to show the world what a true Kage should be so that means that expects others to follow his example.
Stop comparing him to hitler he is nothing like that hitler wanted to exterminate a whole race and segregate a whole race which tobirama and Danzo did segregate the uchiha to cause all of this in the first place
Darth Uchiha
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Except the Jews weren't dangerous, the Uchiha were, besides which, Sasuke did want to commit genocide on Konoha.
Edit: Also, most of this began with an Uchiha, Madara to be exact, all of this began when the ancestor of the Uchiha had a temper tantrum against his younger brother and started a war.
TrollingSage
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Mei isnt and neither is Gaara. Tsunade was a youngster. The only real bastards among the kage are Oonoki and Ay, but even they have changed their bastardly ways. Anyways Sasuke has no right to take the hhigher moral ground considering his contribution to the problem.
Da Best Ever
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Jihadists really dude really....llab at you
He is not doing something in the name of his god nor is he killing innocent people and babies. He going to get rid of shinobi plague and power temptation by getting rid of the bijuu, the bijuu are nice to naruto they have not nice to anyone else in history aside from killer bee and Rikudo. To other shinobi they are weapons of mass destruction.
The shinobi war was going to happen with or without sasuke in d fact his entire participation he was on the good side.
Uchiha weren't dangerous only madara and obito then they didn't trust uchiha and they pick up on it and didn't like that so they were going to revolt so how before danzo segregated them were they dangerous besides obito and madras who were the bad ones please explain?
Darth Uchiha
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Why would they trust the Uchiha? The Uchiha were all predisposed to be emotional basket cases anyway, and, Tobirama gave them a job head be good at to try and give their negative qualities positive expressions.
Edit: Let's see, first off, most of the villains have been Uchiha, but, if you need a count down, Sasuke, Madara, Obito, Indra, Fugaku (depending on your point of view), and basically those involved in the coup (again, according to your point of view). They were even predisposed towards hatred and madness.
TrollingSage
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And you stop comparing Tobirama's unfair treatment of the Uchiha to the Jews. The jews were hunted down and killed and sent to concentration camps with inhumane conditions. The Uchiha may have been "segregated" but they didnt have their basic human rights taken away from them. They had food, water, education( they were free to join the Academy). kushina and Mikoto were having a friendly conversation right in the middle of the marketplace. This so called mistreatment of the Uchiha is a bit over stated
So, you are saying that is ok to discriminate against ppl just because their family has a bad history. What tobirama did was segregate them from the village and put them in a position in which they would they were outsiders in the village and upon their first failing were turned against by their own village.
Regardless of your suspicions its innocent until proven guilty.
Da Best Ever
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Agreed about gaara but mei is at least over 30 and that means just like kakashi she was a part of the last war. Tsunade is over 50, proof...when orochimaru attacked the leaf and the sound 4 placed the barrier around orochimaru and Hiruzen the anbu chief said that's orochimaru sama but he looks so young and he is at least 50 years old and part 1 happened when naruto was a kid at least 8 years ago.
He has not contributed to the problem he was getting rid of all those that was a part of his mother and father being killed by his brother and for all those manipulating him into thinking his brother was a maniac, for making him think he was alone in this world.
Would you not be mad if you found out the truth? Of course and are those people wrong for what they did? Of course.
That right there that's the reason why the uchiha are like they are because ppl in the ninja world don't trust them like u keep insulting them without coming up with a good nuff example not to trust them they clearly wanted peace the uchiha why do u think they didn't follow madara they wanted peace the ppl like danzo are the reason for the whole uchiha clan massacre