Flash vs. Arrow

[chopstickchakra]

Did anyone see the episode last night? I thought it was good, they definitely stepped up Ollie's game which I'm glad to see. Also, Cisco may have said t was a tie but Ollie won the first round, he had him held up and stopped that's a victory as far as I'm concerned and I like Barry more u you gotta admit when you lose.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

That episode was amazing

 

[kmrasengan]

Yeah it was pretty good, and yeah Flash lost, Ollie could just break his neck if he wanted to kill him, can't wait for the Arrow episode.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

also it's funny how lash used the same yellow spin of death as his mother's killer.....maye the killer was The Flash's fanboy???? wink* wink* but no seriously:

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^^^ notice the red eyes....idk why but i found that interesting also there was green lantern easter egg with The Emotional Spectrum

 

[chopstickchakra]

also it's funny how lash used the same yellow spin of death as his mother's killer.....maye the killer was The Flash's fanboy???? wink* wink* but no seriously:

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^^^ notice the red eyes....idk why but i found that interesting also there was green lantern easter egg with The Emotional Spectrum

I didn't catch the Lantern reference, was that when they were talking about the right color can cure the rage? There's a few ways they can go about the man in yellow in the show, his name is Zoom btw or Eobard Thawne. Thawne may sound familiar because Iris' boyfriend now is named Eddie Thawne. Zoom can either be Harrison or Eddie or both because I have a strong feeling Harrison may be future Eddie. If he's not future Eddie, Eddie may be his father and Harrison Wells may just be a fake name.

 

[BlacLord™]

Yeah it was pretty good, and yeah Flash lost, Ollie could just break his neck if he wanted to kill him, can't wait for the Arrow episode.

Wait, they had Flash to loose to the Green Arrow?

This is why I don't pay attention to BS series and movies, maximum nerfing and lots of BS.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Wait, they had Flash to loose to the Green Arrow?

This is why I don't pay attention to BS series and movies, maximum nerfing and lots of BS.

If you had watched it you'd know it wasn't nerfing. Trust me that was my biggest concern with the fight as well, especially with Barry just reaching Mach 1, but they made Oliver a better fighter than he's been in Arrow.

 

[BlacLord™]

If you had watched it you'd know it wasn't nerfing. Trust me that was my biggest concern with the fight as well, especially with Barry just reaching Mach 1, but they made Oliver a better fighter than he's been in Arrow.

If he wasn't nerfed, then the Green Arrow would have been dead before he could lift his bow. Canonically, the Flash has covered the distance of the universe in less than instant.

 

[chopstickchakra]

If he wasn't nerfed, then the Green Arrow would have been dead before he could lift his bow. Canonically, the Flash has covered the distance of the universe in less than instant.

Yeah canonically at the latter stages. The show is starting at day 1 with Barry just getting his powers, and learning how to use them. I've been on a lot of comic vs topics and yes an unreleased, uninhibited, intent to kill Flash is one of the strongest in DC but even the comics limit what he actually does, Barry or Wally could reach into Superman's chest and end his life but he never will unless they do a title like Deadpool kills Marvel and call it Flash kills DC. Plus at this point in the show Oliver had 8 years of experience to Barry's months(at best) and Barry was blinded by rage so to speak.

 

[BlacLord™]

Yeah canonically at the latter stages. The show is starting at day 1 with Barry just getting his powers, and learning how to use them. I've been on a lot of comic vs topics and yes an unreleased, uninhibited, intent to kill Flash is one of the strongest in DC but even the comics limit what he actually does, Barry or Wally could reach into Superman's chest and end his life but he never will unless they do a title like Deadpool kills Marvel and call it Flash kills DC. Plus at this point in the show Oliver had 8 years of experience to Barry's months(at best) and Barry was blinded by rage so to speak.

The comics rarely inhibit him to the point where he can't beat Green Foddrow. And the only Supes they could beat are the likes of GL Superman but any "good" version of Superman would take the Flash quite handily and the former doesn't even have defined upper limits, he's literally just as fast as necessary. He's already got speed feats which compare to the Flash and can become intangible. But if we go for the likes of Prime 1M, Flash would get negged.

 

[chopstickchakra]

The comics rarely inhibit him to the point where he can't beat Green Foddrow. And the only Supes they could beat are the likes of GL Superman but any "good" version of Superman would take the Flash quite handily and the former doesn't even have defined upper limits, he's literally just as fast as necessary. He's already got speed feats which compare to the Flash and can become intangible. But if we go for the likes of Prime 1M, Flash would get negged.

Flash has beaten Superman in a speed race already, plus who could beat who depends on the writer. Wally while going intangible disrupts on a molecular level whatever he phases through resulting in its destruction, all Wally would have to do is run and phase through Clark, disrupting his essence on a molecular level then blammo no more Supes. But this isn't about Wally or Clark it's about Barry and Oliver. Also, the comics rarely, i.e. never, put an experienced and trained Oliver against a fledgling Barry. Ollie beating Barry is the same as Bruce beating Clark, which I'm assuming you also have a problem with.

 

[BlacLord™]

Flash has beaten Superman in a speed race already, plus who could beat who depends on the writer. Wally while going intangible disrupts on a molecular level whatever he phases through resulting in its destruction, all Wally would have to do is run and phase through Clark, disrupting his essence on a molecular level then blammo no more Supes. But this isn't about Wally or Clark it's about Barry and Oliver. Also, the comics rarely, i.e. never, put an experienced and trained Oliver against a fledgling Barry. Ollie beating Barry is the same as Bruce beating Clark, which I'm assuming you also have a problem with.

As I already told you, Supes doesn't have a speed limit, he's always been as fast as necessary. Even Pre-Crisis Superman went so fast that Spectre had to intervene. Plus:

a) That wasn't an especially strong form of Superman that the Flash raced against.
b) Going intangible means Superman can't be touched, the molecules aren't there.

Batman's never even beaten Superman canonically. The former has only even been able to gain an advantage in a fight with help, lots of prep and/or kryptonite, but still never won.

Unrestricted Superman in his best form, Prime 1M, murderstomps unrestricted Flash in his best form, Wally West. You seem pretty noobish to DCVerse making comments like Batman can beat Superman.

 

[chopstickchakra]

As I already told you, Supes doesn't have a speed limit, he's always been as fast as necessary. Even Pre-Crisis Superman went so fast that Spectre had to intervene. Plus:

a) That wasn't an especially strong form of Superman that the Flash raced against.
b) Going intangible means Superman can't be touched, the molecules aren't there.

Batman's never even beaten Superman canonically. The former has only even been able to gain an advantage in a fight with help, lots of prep and/or kryptonite, but still never won.

Unrestricted Superman in his best form, Prime 1M, murderstomps unrestricted Flash in his best form, Wally West. You seem pretty noobish to DCVerse making comments like Batman can beat Superman.

" Supes doesn't have a speed limit, he's always been as fast as necessary" So then by your logic the Hulk can beat Superman right because he's described as being limitless, his anger can make him as strong as necessary and his radioactive body will allow him to mutate to survive any environment including space and the ocean floor. Not to mention, since you want to be all cannon with it, how many different times has Flash been shown to be faster than Superman in the comics? And conversely how many for Superman faster than Flash? Thought so.

Winning doesn't mean killing, Batman beat Superman in Dark Knight Returns he chose not to kill him though.

' The former has only even been able to gain an advantage in a fight with help, lots of prep and/or kryptonite," What does that have to do with the outcome, the result is still the same. People act like Kryptonite isn't a viable argument, give me 1 reason why the use of kryptonite would mean someone who beat superman really didn't.

"Unrestricted Superman in his best form, Prime 1M, murderstomps unrestricted Flash in his best form," Why are you so caught up on Superman as I said before this isn't about him or Batman or Wally, it's about Ollie and Barry.

"Even Pre-Crisis Superman went so fast that Spectre had to intervene" Comparing pre-crisis to post crisis seems legit.

"a) That wasn't an especially strong form of Superman that the Flash raced against." It was a typical Superman with no ridiculous power ups, get off it.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

I didn't catch the Lantern reference, was that when they were talking about the right color can cure the rage? There's a few ways they can go about the man in yellow in the show, his name is Zoom btw or Eobard Thawne. Thawne may sound familiar because Iris' boyfriend now is named Eddie Thawne. Zoom can either be Harrison or Eddie or both because I have a strong feeling Harrison may be future Eddie. If he's not future Eddie, Eddie may be his father and Harrison Wells may just be a fake name.

When the lights were used on barry, the four colors flashing were purple blue green and pink to be specific. Compassion, Hope, Will and Love.

also to the guy arguing barry being nerfed: did you watch the episode?? no have you kept up with either of the series?? no than why fuuck are even arguing?!?!?!?

 

[Sweet Pudding]

also it's funny how lash used the same yellow spin of death as his mother's killer.....maye the killer was The Flash's fanboy???? wink* wink* but no seriously:

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^^^ notice the red eyes....idk why but i found that interesting also there was green lantern easter egg with The Emotional Spectrum

Holy f!
Maybe the Reverse Flash is Barry from the future? Or a different dimension

 

[ChrisWolf]

clearly the arrow won I don't know why he said it was a tie.

 

[chopstickchakra]

clearly the arrow won I don't know why he said it was a tie.

Probably to avoid a fan war sort of like what me and tom riddle did.

Holy f!
Maybe the Reverse Flash is Barry from the future? Or a different dimension

He isn't his name is Zoom. He's either Eddie Thawne, Iris's boyfriend or Dr. Harrison Wells the guy from the future because Zoom has power over time.

 

[Korra.]

Cant wait for another team up T__T

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

Probably to avoid a fan war sort of like what me and tom riddle did.



He isn't his name is Zoom. He's either Eddie Thawne, Iris's boyfriend or Dr. Harrison Wells the guy from the future because Zoom has power over time.

haven't you seen the new trailer??? Reverse Flash(that's what they are calling him), Harrison Wells, and Eddie were in the same room

 

[chopstickchakra]

haven't you seen the new trailer??? Reverse Flash(that's what they are calling him), Harrison Wells, and Eddie were in the same room

Reverse Flash is Zoom and I've seen the trailer where Zoom and Eddie are in the lab then Wells' glasses fall on the floor but I don't see him in any of the scenes.