Final word on Chidori vs Rasengan

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3.The Chidori can used only a limited no of times due to excess chakra consumption and has a time limit associated with it.The Rasengan can be use any no of times and becomes self sustaining i.e has no time limit associated with it.Also Chidori requires forming of Handseals while the Rasengan does not.

4.It most be noted that the Rasengan is an incomplete technique whereas the Chidori is a complete one.

5.Nobody without the Sharingan can use the Chidori effectively since it has a major drawback associated with it.The speed at which the attack must be done, combined with the fact that the user must run in a straight line, causes a tunnel vision-like effect for the user. This allows the enemy to easily counter the attack, making it a potentially lethal move for the user.

Rasengan > Chidori, yes. But none of this true.

3- is baseless & a perversion of character - if it was naruto, he would be spamming chidori all day. Sasuke clearly got more stamina when he matured & kakashi was just generalizing himself in terms of chakra reserves, not literally.

4- is just semantics & wordplay...look at feats - its not even a retcon.
It doesn't prove anything either, even if it was true...

5- is actually an indirect retcon, as well as a misinterpretation of Minatos warnings, which were more like guidance ''concerns'' rather than combat ''absolutes''.
Chidori can forego seals & sprinting w/ higher skill level. and sharingan has no effect an ability performing the jutsu, successful or not.
kakashi didn't have sharingan when he created it.

EDIT: somebody already posted something like this^

_but the reason rasengan is superior is because shape manipulation is the basis of elemental ninjutsu & nature manipulation is secondary. this sounds like contradiction but feats demonstrate this.
the jyuken: twin lion fist_ is a perfect example...

its not because of any statements or panels of damage, although they can show evidence.
 
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1.yes
2.yes
3.obviously sasuke doesn't use hand seals anymore for chidori only kakashi does this is flawed. You also forgot that rasengan can be hard to form by yourself as Naruto for the most part before sage power up needed a clone to use rasengan. It's self sustaining yes but it has been shown multiple rasenshurikens or other rasengans. can be chakra taxing.

4.um yes and no rasengan us incomplete....up until the person puts their own chakra nature into it. Naruto has been using wind release rasengan as wind is naruto's chakra nature. Rasengan becomes complete by putting your own chakra nature into it I.e rasenshuriken or wind release rasengan.

5. Than clearly you missed how cursed mark level two sasuke was flying in multiple directions with his, or maybe current sasuke with black chidori? With mastery you don't need to go in a straight line that only applies again to kakashi...not sasuke.

in all no and no rasengan does not have a chakra nature cause it's just base. Until the user puts his own chakra into it than it becomes complete and has a chakra nature so the fact that the rasengan never being complete us semi incorrect. As Naruto doesn't use base rasengan he uses wind release rasengan.

furthermore that's not the reason rasengan and chidori end in a stalemate. It's momentum of two opposite forces. Since rasengan rotates the opposite way and chidori is normal. Than it's a matter of momentum newton's law when two opposing forces of the same speed/power/etc than a stalemate occurs. however if one is stronger than the other than the stronger force wins.

Dude you're putting every point in reference to Sasuke..i'm talking Rasengan vs Chidori not Rasengan(Naruto) vs Chidori( Sasuke,Kaskashi)

Its a rasengan vs Chidori thread. Its about the technique not the user.Nowhere i have mentioned any names of its users

3.Not talking about rasenshuriken or other rasengans.Just base rasengan.

4.I already said that the Rasengan is incomplete.Its the Chidori that is complete.Please re-read

5.I already wrote that this limitation applies only to non-sharingan users.


If they are of the same power which they are not
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Rasengan > Chidori, yes. But none of this true.

3- is baseless & a perversion of character - if it was naruto, he would be spamming chidori all day. Sasuke clearly got more stamina when he matured & kakashi was just generalizing himself in terms of chakra reserves, not literally.

4- is just semantics & wordplay...look at feats - its not even a retcon.
It doesn't prove anything either, even if it was true...

5- is actually an indirect retcon, as well as a misinterpretation of Minatos warnings, which were more like guidance ''concerns'' rather than combat ''absolutes''.
Chidori can forego seals & sprinting w/ higher skill level. and sharingan has no effect an ability performing the jutsu, successful or not.
kakashi didn't have sharingan when he created it.

EDIT: somebody already posted something like this^

_but the reason rasengan is superior is because shape manipulation is the basis of elemental ninjutsu & nature manipulation is secondary. this sounds like contradiction but feats demonstrate this.
the jyuken: twin lion fist_ is a perfect example...

its not because of any statements or panels of damage, although they can show evidence.

Ah...Its not about Naruto,Sasuke or Kakashi.Its about two techniques not its users.

3.Not about the users but about the techniques

4.It is a fact that the Rasengan is incomplete while the chidori is a complete technique.The rasengan was originally designed to combine highest possible shape manipulation along with Nature manipulation.Doing so takes the technique on a whole new level as observed with the rasenshuriken

5.Sharingan plays an important role in implementing an jutsu.Minus the sharingan the chidori user is open to a counter attack and will likely not be able to hit the target accurately.Kakashi didn't have Sharingan while he created it admitted .However when he used it (during his fight with stone ninja minus the sharingan) Minato strongly suggested Kakashi not to use it again.

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Ah...Its not about Naruto,Sasuke or Kakashi.Its about two techniques not its users.


3.Not about the users but about the techniques
4.It is a fact that the Rasengan is incomplete while the chidori is a complete technique.The rasengan was originally designed to combine highest possible shape manipulation along with Nature manipulation.Doing so takes the technique on a whole new level as observed with the rasenshuriken

5.Sharingan plays an important role in implementing an jutsu.Minus the sharingan the chidori user is open to a counter attack and will likely not be able to hit the target accurately.Kakashi didn't have Sharingan while he created it admitted .However when he used it (during his fight with stone ninja minus the sharingan) Minato strongly suggested Kakashi not to use it again.

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3 No, kid sasuke cant spam rasengan. rasengan isn't more chakra efficient than chidori is
''self sustainig'' doesn't mean anything/it has no context...

4 no it isn't a fact, its just doubletalk.

5 ''Minato strongly suggested'' end of argument. every combat situation is different
 

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Dude you're putting every point in reference to Sasuke..i'm talking Rasengan vs Chidori not Rasengan(Naruto) vs Chidori( Sasuke,Kaskashi)

Its a rasengan vs Chidori thread. Its about the technique not the user.Nowhere i have mentioned any names of its users

3.Not talking about rasenshuriken or other rasengans.Just base rasengan.

4.I already said that the Rasengan is incomplete.Its the Chidori that is complete.Please re-read

5.I already wrote that this limitation applies only to non-sharingan users.


If they are of the same power which they are not
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You're just a butthurt Sasuke fanboy
By that scan Chidori pierced the tank(which is what is's suppose to do) and Rasengan blew a hole in it(which it's suppose to do) which is why people said Chidori=piercing Rasengan=brute force. After all Minato did copy it from a TBB.
 
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