[Game] Final Fantasy XV: Return of the True King! #38

[Michelle]

Your insistence that mafia was trying to frame you on Alice is completely nonsensical by the way.

I'm not saying that makes you scum guaranteed but it's outright rediculous.

That is what acum would say

 

[Michelle]

*scum

 

[Ultraviolet]

First off, why does the mafia not simply kill you and frame Alice?

Secondly, why bother with the janitor kill? If they're going to set you up there's no reason to waste that, just kill them normally and then people would naturally suspect you.

And it's still very very convenient that a high threat role was killed off so early in the game when there's very little chance that mafia outside of your chat would have been aware Alice is cop.

It's a bizzare situation, and sometimes these things happen in mafia. But your defense is garbage frankly.

 

[Ultraviolet]

That is what acum would say

See if you were able to outright admit "yeah this looks bad for me and is really strange" I'd probably lend you some points

But what you do here is pretend you have some ironclad logical case for why it's completely normal for mafia to janitor Alice. And posture and shade me for making sense.

 

[Sagebee]

Again with muh info

If I was confident you could game solve with 100% accuracy following my death I'd say go for it. But not confident in that happening.

Hell even if you narrow it down to say 3 people after my death and there's 2 scum in there, the odds still favor mafia winning statistically. If my math is correct.

We hardly have room to be in the wrong. We have one mislynch left. Not sure how many times and in how many different ways I can explain it to you sage. I would bet money a lynch on me here today would result in a town loss. If most of the town were putting in real effort maybe that answer would be different, but you guys aren't really stepping it up.

Even if your not confident in my ability to narrow it down the question still remains removing who is most optimal in narrowing it down.

I think we can pull more information from your allignment than we can status.

Also you say we have to get out scum right now which I'm trying to do who do you think is likelier scum the person participating more and fighting being sussed or the person that doesnt even care to be here. Both you have a case to be sussed but your behavior is more in line with if you were guilty. I would think status would put up more of a fight and he will eventually be lynched by playing like this.

I am thinking about whose more likely scum and not trying to waste a vote either so you seem more optimal on all levels.

Also to your math let's say your town and it narrow down to two scum we would have two phases to guess them right.

Your talking like status is a guaranteed option from my perspective I cant be sure from either but you seem likelier and I can pull more info from you than i could from statusquo.

 

[Ultraviolet]

I would assign probably a 90% chance that you were the only person in the thread to know Alice, a completely background player, was cop. Actually make that 99% because the mafia absolutely did not use N1 role cop on them.

And then, tragically, mysteriously, that player just happens to be cop and dies.

None of your weak sauce accusations even remotely come close to looking as bad as this *and I'm still* being more charitable to you than you are to me. And perhaps I ought to stop that and figure out how to handle you.

 

[Sagebee]

Alice told me in our neighborhood chat. She town read me, is not strange for mafia to try to frame a player

We have 2 shots, no one died
One is yours aimed at Ultra
One is from mafia and was stopped

What tells you could be Ted's shot?
Because if is Ted 's was aimed at me and i was protected

Huh I'm confused why your referencing an outside chat what does have to do with knowing shes a cop. And how can mafia frame you for getting info independently you would have to think they knew you searched her up in night and targeted her for it which makes no sense.

How do you know the other shot was from mafia are you assuming since you trapped ultra it must of come from him? Statusquo said he also has a kill shot.

 

[Michelle]

I think Ultra wants to throw his buddy Ted under the bus, to have a solid defence next day

 

[Ultraviolet]

Even if your not confident in my ability to narrow it down the question still remains removing who is most optimal in narrowing it down.

I think we can pull more information from your allignment than we can status.

Also you say we have to get out scum right now which I'm trying to do who do you think is likelier scum the person participating more and fighting being sussed or the person that doesnt even care to be here. Both you have a case to be sussed but your behavior is more in line with if you were guilty. I would think status would put up more of a fight and he will eventually be lynched by playing like this.

I am thinking about whose more likely scum and not trying to waste a vote either so you seem more optimal on all levels.

Also to your math let's say your town and it narrow down to two scum we would have two phases to guess them right.

Your talking like status is a guaranteed option from my perspective I cant be sure from either but you seem likelier and I can pull more info from you than i could from statusquo.

I'll keep this short. I'm town. All lynches today will lead to additional info - mislynches or not. Your primary consideration should therefore be who is the most scummy, period. If I am your best answer, you've got more work to do.

 

[Ultraviolet]

I think Ultra wants to throw his buddy Ted under the bus, to have a solid defence next day

You're really phoning it in here, and calling us buddies to the point of redundancy. Tut tut

 

[Sagebee]

I'll keep this short. I'm town. All lynches today will lead to additional info - mislynches or not. Your primary consideration should therefore be who is the most scummy, period. If I am your best answer, you've got more work to do.

Then give me a case why I should find someone else scummier.

Between you and status you look scummier to me.

If we are talking michelle both of you look super scummy and thinking you guys are partners.

Also ever kill doesnt bring back the same amount information who can status be tied back to?

 

[Michelle]

Huh I'm confused why your referencing an outside chat what does have to do with knowing shes a cop. And how can mafia frame you for getting info independently you would have to think they knew you searched her up in night and targeted her for it which makes no sense.

How do you know the other shot was from mafia are you assuming since you trapped ultra it must of come from him? Statusquo said he also has a kill shot.

I claimed all that happened, i said all my actions and you didn't read.

I said i had in N1 the JK on Ultra and one shot day neighborizer i used on Alice she claimed for me.

Is normal for mafia to have a night kill, that's why
He claimed to have a shot because he thought he could get away by killing anyone with it, but the other shot is the mafia kill, this is how the game goes.
If he were legit town, wouldn't he be here scumhunting?

 

[Michelle]

I would assign probably a 90% chance that you were the only person in the thread to know Alice, a completely background player, was cop. Actually make that 99% because the mafia absolutely did not use N1 role cop on them.

And then, tragically, mysteriously, that player just happens to be cop and dies.

None of your weak sauce accusations even remotely come close to looking as bad as this *and I'm still* being more charitable to you than you are to me. And perhaps I ought to stop that and figure out how to handle you.

Simple things have simple explanations, you made it too complicated to be a real thought
You streching things to fit your narrative

 

[Michelle]

I'll be inactive today and will come few hours before EoD so won't be able to answer questions or provide a vote count until then. Might come active in-between. Sorry for the inconvenience.​

Let's make the VC ourselves, we need it

 

[Sagebee]

I claimed all that happened, i said all my actions and you didn't read.

I said i had in N1 the JK on Ultra and one shot day neighborizer i used on Alice she claimed for me.

Is normal for mafia to have a night kill, that's why
He claimed to have a shot because he thought he could get away by killing anyone with it, but the other shot is the mafia kill, this is how the game goes.
If he were legit town, wouldn't he be here scumhunting?

You're going to break this down to me since I'm not familiar with mafia terms so when you say you neighbored alice I'm assuming your saying you visited her in the night and she told you?

Also confused who your referencing in the last part you mean statusquo or ultra isnt scumhunting.

It's TRUE neither are putting much effort scumhunting which is interesting how ultra is desperately saying we cant be wrong but his actions doesnt seem aligned with this.

 

[Ultraviolet]

If we are talking michelle both of you look super scummy and thinking you guys are partners.

What the **** are you smoking dude.

There has never been a more clear non association between two plates in this game, except for Ratchet/Soul.

You're not thinking badly, unfortunately, it seems like you're not thinking at all. And this is probably being exploited right in front of your very face.

 

[Ultraviolet]

Simple things have simple explanations, you made it too complicated to be a real thought
You streching things to fit your narrative

*You* are the one making it complicated, my conclusion is very simple.

 

[Sagebee]

What the **** are you smoking dude.

There has never been a more clear non association between two plates in this game, except for Ratchet/Soul.

You're not thinking badly, unfortunately, it seems like you're not thinking at all. And this is probably being exploited right in front of your very face.

Dude you going at each other and sussing each other doesnt prove anything I've seen this happen before to find out it was a scheme and they were scum teammates.

Even if your not aligned I feel confident that scum is between you guys.

 

[Ultraviolet]

It's TRUE neither are putting much effort scumhunting which is interesting how ultra is desperately saying we cant be wrong but his actions doesnt seem aligned with this.

It's probably a waste of time, but what the hell are you even saying here

 

[Ultraviolet]

Dude you going at each other and sussing each other doesnt prove anything I've seen this happen before to find out it was a scheme and they were scum teammates.

Even if your not aligned I feel confident that scum is between you guys.

Everything is contextual. Yes scum partners can argue. But if you think in this case its likely we're partners you are not thinking about this in a critical way