Final Battle: Naruto and Sasuke did not use their full powers

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man and they say 2014 members are dumb

Wtf is dumb about my post?

If he didn't show any of those abilities, he doesn't have it until it gets proven in battle. There was clear signs that both Madara and sasuke unlocked different abilities with their rinnegan. Madara limbo and Sasuke a teleportation jutsu.

Senjutsu was proven to be affective against a person with Rikudo powers. Even if Naruto doesn't have RM, he can still fight with Senjutsu.

Naruto does have experience fighting rinnegan users. He beat all Pain's paths with only SM and at that time he was limited to only two clones. He only had trouble with Deva path, but Naruto's a lot stronger than his SM self from back then. Even if Sasuke does posses those abilities, he wouldn't be able to use his rinnegan's abilities a lot since he doesn't have a huge supply of chakra.
 
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i say bijuu sasuke =rinnegan mastered Sasuke. But meh

He doesn't have the chakra supply to equal bijuu Sasuke. He would be able to use his abilities way better, but the fact still remains that his chakra won't last as long as it did when he used the bijuu chakra.
 

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The guy said that Naruto lost his RM, Which means he was talking about if Sasuke and Naruto fought now with their abilities in the Last. That's what I replied to, not the OP's question about their last fight.

But still, there's no proof that Sasuke even has all of the abilities Nagato has shown. Right now it's just speculation, but even if he did have it, Naruto would still be able to counter his abilities since he easily dealt with all of Pain's paths, but had a hard time against Deva Path. Later he did beat Deva path with his clones. Sasuke wouldn't be able to use all of those abilities in succession anyway since he doesn't possess massive amounts of chakra.

Like I said before in another thread, people are comparing a Sasuke which they imagine his full potential with a still war time BSM Naruto, when Naruto clearly improved a lot since he could easily use a mode technique, rasenshuriken in base mode without clones. Naruto also defeated a Rikudo Toneri with just his BSM. Don't ignore Naruto's potential and only focuson Sasuke. Even if Sasuke gained a lot more jutsu, Naruto would still outlast him with his chakra reserves and stamina.

Sasuke does have massive amounts of chakra.His + Half of the Sage's is alot.And he could absorb all of Naruto's Ninjutsu attacks + perhaps go to Naruto himself and absorb chakra directly.To gain more.
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i say bijuu sasuke =rinnegan mastered Sasuke. But meh

That's not true,the reason he had to rely on the Bijuus power at that time was because he hadn't mastered the Rinnegan.


Wtf is dumb about my post?

If he didn't show any of those abilities, he doesn't have it until it gets proven in battle. There was clear signs that both Madara and sasuke unlocked different abilities with their rinnegan. Madara limbo and Sasuke a teleportation jutsu.

Senjutsu was proven to be affective against a person with Rikudo powers. Even if Naruto doesn't have RM, he can still fight with Senjutsu.

Naruto does have experience fighting rinnegan users. He beat all Pain's paths with only SM and at that time he was limited to only two clones. He only had trouble with Deva path, but Naruto's a lot stronger than his SM self from back then. Even if Sasuke does posses those abilities, he wouldn't be able to use his rinnegan's abilities a lot since he doesn't have a huge supply of chakra.

Naruto didn't take them all down by himself.He had those 3 Big toads help,The Kyuubi's,and then Minato resealed the Kyuubi.
 
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He doesn't have the chakra supply to equal bijuu Sasuke. He would be able to use his abilities way better, but the fact still remains that his chakra won't last as long as it did when he used the bijuu chakra.

I was referring to battle efficiency
 

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Sasuke does have massive amounts of chakra.His + Half of the Sage's is alot.And he could absorb all of Naruto's Ninjutsu attacks + perhaps go to Naruto himself and absorb chakra directly.To gain more.


That's not true,the reason he had to rely on the Bijuus power at that time was because he hadn't mastered the Rinnegan.




Naruto didn't take them all down by himself.He had those 3 Big toads help,The Kyuubi's,and then Minato resealed the Kyuubi.

To the sasuke comment, exactly he used the bijuu to compensate
 

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i thought soo too but ive seen a lot of guys in the base saying naruto got half hamura chakra but i guess we have too wait for the move to see it confirmed
 

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Sasuke does have massive amounts of chakra.His + Half of the Sage's is alot.And he could absorb all of Naruto's Ninjutsu attacks + perhaps go to Naruto himself and absorb chakra directly.To gain more.


That's not true,the reason he had to rely on the Bijuus power at that time was because he hadn't mastered the Rinnegan.

He doesn't have as much as Naruto, not by a long shot. The only reason he could fight Naruto that long was because he absorbed the bijuu chakra. You must be kidding right? You're saying that Sasuke's own reserves equals to that of the bijuu chakra he took and that if he had mastered his rinnegan he would've pulled off the same feats without the use of the bijuu chakra? Rinnegan mastery doesn't equal chakra increase of bijuu level. It just means that he would be better skilled at using his rinnegan. The attacks would use less chakra to execute. His chakra reserves won't increase at all.

Naruto would still outlast him. Naruto won't just give Sasuke chakra by letting him absorb his attacks. Naruto isn't that stupid and the only reason Sasuke could even absorb Naruto's chakra was because both of them were out of stamina and was holding each other. Naruto got the best reflexes and can move fast. There's no way he would let Sasuke absorb his chakra.
 

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Forasmuch Naruto clashed Toneri an invidual powered by Tenseigan an influence endowment by the Sage's chakra whom Naruto beat in KCM Mode without utilising his own Sage powers. The canon facts advocate Naruto has avant-garded so abundantly he can take on Sage powered people without the aid of his own Sage powers.

It's conspicuous Sasuke is no where close to his potential and level. This is why this supported analysis and another small hypothesis made established on canon facts to disrepute how many more power ups Sasuke needs to be equal to Naruto

Conceive in your mind an whimsical Sasuke with biju Susanoo again and all Rinnegan paths techniques with Limbo like Madara. Toting up multitudinous expanse of extra power ups in need so he can adjoin Naruto's level. I've tallied using manga facts x logic using induction based on this very manga Sasuke would need 31 more power ups to be competent of handling an altercation with Naruto.
 

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Naruto didn't take them all down by himself.He had those 3 Big toads help,The Kyuubi's,and then Minato resealed the Kyuubi.

It's his summonings :|

I was talking about the other Pains. I said that he had trouble against Deva path, but he did defeat Deva path's ability with shadow clones.
 

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I was referring to battle efficiency

And for that Naruto has shadow clones and diversion tactics. Sasuke's abilities would only take him so far. He would still need a lot of chakra to keep up with Naruto, otherwise he would be exhausted before Naruto.
 

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Naruto = Exhausted (He used too much chakra during the war)
Sasuke = Hasn't mastered Rinnegan

That doesn't even make sense, Naruto had kurama and nine other Bijuu's while Sasuke was running on his own supply, where did you manage to get that logic? :|

Forasmuch Naruto clashed Toneri an invidual powered by Tenseigan an influence endowment by the Sage's chakra whom Naruto beat in KCM Mode without utilising his own Sage powers. The canon facts advocate Naruto has avant-garded so abundantly he can take on Sage powered people without the aid of his own Sage powers.

It's conspicuous Sasuke is no where close to his potential and level. This is why this supported analysis and another small hypothesis made established on canon facts to disrepute how many more power ups Sasuke needs to be equal to Naruto

Conceive in your mind an whimsical Sasuke with biju Susanoo again and all Rinnegan paths techniques with Limbo like Madara. Toting up multitudinous expanse of extra power ups in need so he can adjoin Naruto's level. I've tallied using manga facts x logic using induction based on this very manga Sasuke would need 31 more power ups to be competent of handling an altercation with Naruto.

In 30 second screen time, Sasuke managed to save Bolts grandfather (after being whooped by Toneri), saved the entire village and destoryed a meteoride capable of wiping out Konoha with a simple chidori

Whereas for Naruto he was knocked out cold for 3 days, saved from a simple genjutsu by Sakura, started crying because he was rejected then needed Hinata's help to stop Toneri :coffee:
 
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And for that Naruto has shadow clones and diversion tactics. Sasuke's abilities would only take him so far. He would still need a lot of chakra to keep up with Naruto, otherwise he would be exhausted before Naruto.

Very true, shinra tense I can be overcome by sheer force (five tails can help but probably won't need it), preta can't absorb while in susanoo (madara vs gokage) ,asura countered by tsb and rasen variants, sasuke can't soul snatch unless they're tired and by each other so that's where he'd be in trouble but sasuke susanoo and body gets destroyed by a serious naruto
 

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I agree they werent in their primes
 

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And for that Naruto has shadow clones and diversion tactics. Sasuke's abilities would only take him so far. He would still need a lot of chakra to keep up with Naruto, otherwise he would be exhausted before Naruto.

Very true, shinra tense I can be overcome by sheer force (five tails can help but probably won't need it), preta can't absorb while in susanoo (madara vs gokage) ,asura countered by tsb and rasen variants, sasuke can't soul snatch unless they're tired and by each other so that's where he'd be in trouble but sasuke susanoo and body gets destroyed by a serious naruto
 

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Wtf is dumb about my post?

If he didn't show any of those abilities, he doesn't have it until it gets proven in battle. There was clear signs that both Madara and sasuke unlocked different abilities with their rinnegan. Madara limbo and Sasuke a teleportation jutsu.

Senjutsu was proven to be affective against a person with Rikudo powers. Even if Naruto doesn't have RM, he can still fight with Senjutsu.

Naruto does have experience fighting rinnegan users. He beat all Pain's paths with only SM and at that time he was limited to only two clones. He only had trouble with Deva path, but Naruto's a lot stronger than his SM self from back then. Even if Sasuke does posses those abilities, he wouldn't be able to use his rinnegan's abilities a lot since he doesn't have a huge supply of chakra.

the fact that sasuke already used some of those paths means he could use the others.
 

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He doesn't have the chakra supply to equal bijuu Sasuke. He would be able to use his abilities way better, but the fact still remains that his chakra won't last as long as it did when he used the bijuu chakra.

This makes no sense he didn't absorb the bijuus chakra he put it in susuano'o all that using his own chakra.
 

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so true

lololololololololol sike Naruto rode kurama so hard he passed out lol that white font tho

Indeed it is true.

Was that really a necessary hidden message -_-
 
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