[Spoilers] Final Arc - Illustration
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wow glad it is finally ending bleach use to be sooo awsome and then it kinda fell off for me anyway but i still watch cuz i started it haha once its done i can check it off and then only watch the first few arcs ever again haha
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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JirayiaRIPforever
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it could be aizen and i really think that he has GOT to return, he was unbelievably strong and never even used his bankai (i dont know what could be more badass than his shikai though!)I don't think that's Aizen. It doesn't look like him. Honestly I don't really even want to see him anymore. Aizen's time is over, time for new fresh developments
The guy on the left does resemble Tsukishima though. Interesting interested
That's the point. Aizen is boring. What's the point in having someone so overpowered again? It makes the story piss boring because nobody has a chance except the main character.
Personally I want someone weaker than Aizen and have good battles
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Yes it would. The current Ichigo is no where near as powerful as his FGT form which, mind you, didn't even defeat Aizen.
Also, by that logic are you implying that Ichigo is soooo powerful now? That anybody not on par with Aizen would be "meaningless" to him?... I beg to differ. Even now, if Ichigo were to face Byakuya, Kenpachi, or even Renji he would have an even battle. Don't over-exaggerate Ichigo's strength.
Someone as powerful as Aizen would be boring. Villains are not always about power. It's about being sinister, being a mastermind, and about maintaining leverage. Obviously strength plays a role, but it doesn't need to be exaggerated.
Not a single person stood a chance against Aizen. Not even FGT Ichigo. Aizen survived his Mugetsu (his most powerful attacK) while Ichigo was already in the process of losing his powers... Had it not been for Urahara's Kido Ichigo would have been killed.
I'd rather have someone weaker than Aizen as long as it means having better battles
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Put up a reference for when it was ever said that Aizen wasn't a threat for the Royal Guard. It never said that.
You're saying that Aizen wasn't a threat but that the Quincy would be? Now I know you're joking.
I can't put up a reference, cause this was said in Omake that was released last week and it isn't posted. On another forum we have it translated. It was a part from interview with Kubo. He said that since in Arrancar arc there was no 0 Squad he tried to come up with solution and this is it. 0 Squad didn't think that Aizen was threat in the meaning that they were sure that Gotei 13 would be enough to stop Aizen. Now he has to think of new enemies so that he can bring 0 Squad to the arc.
The thing with quincy....it isn't 100% sure as of today that they are going to be enemies but think this:
When Ishida entered Final Form he wiped the floor with Kurotsuchi even when this captain had bankai released so it was powerful enough to stand against captains with ease...on top of this, even Ishida's father said this:
"Unfortunately, my powers are quite different from the feeble ones that you lost so easily" ( i can't put a link so: Chapter 186, page 8)
One can tell that if Ishida had "feeble" powers, than a true Quincy has powers that can probably easily match or even outclass Gotei 13 captains :ghehe:
Well I would still argue that without Ichigo the Gotei 13 would have lost to Aizen. Well, it was both Ichigo and Urahara. Urahara's implanted Kido was only able to activate because Ichigo's Mugetsu weakened Aizen enough. But besides them Gotei 13 didn't stand a chance. Aizen was even prepared for Yamamoto and managed to fend him off.
As for Ishida, granted, he did overpower Mayuri. But Mayuri isn't a fighting/offensive-type Shinigami to begin with. He's a scientist who leans more to experimentation and knowledge. Imagine, for example, if Mayuri faced Nnoitra or Zommari instead of Szayel. He wouldn't have had it so easy. Obviously he's strong because he's a Captain-class shinigami, but he's no Byakuya, Kenpachi, or even Hitsugaya. If Ishida went up against any other Captain he would have been hopelessly crushed.
The reason for setting up Ishida against Mayuri was for his character development. Mayuri experimented and killed his grandfather. The battle was to bring that to the surface and reveal Ishida's past. I find it hard for Kubo to have set Ishida up against anyone else.
Ryuken is powerful, no doubt. But that's far from saying that a Quincy could match the best of Shinigamis or even Squad 0. Saying that Aizen was no match for Squad 0, yet, also saying that Quincys and Squad 0 will be in the next arc, are you implying that a Quincy could be more powerful than Aizen? That's absurd.
Not to mention that all of the Gotei 13 have been training hard for the past 17 months. Renji for example has become a monster. Hitsugaya, who is a genius, has completely mastered his Bankai. And I'm sure the list goes on.
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I get what you're saying, obviously Gotei 13 would lost without Ichigo, i just think that 0 Squad was sure that he would help them.
Thing about Ishida...yes, Mayuri was chosen because of his connection to Ishida's past and he isn't battle type. It's obvious that in terms of fighting skills Ishida would lost to Byakuya or Kenpachi for example, but his reiatsu in final form was formidable, that is without question. :ghehe:
Ryukuen is indeed powerful, and i'm not trying to say that he is stronger than captains or Aizen, take that he wasn't training, (or we weren't shown that)
so what do you think a fully mature Quincy with years and years of training could do...
I too find the thought that Quincy should be better than Aizen a bit difficult to digest...but...what do you know what will Kubo show.
After this first chapter i can say...we'll see, there are so many possibilities right now.
Just read this week's BleachI get what you're saying, obviously Gotei 13 would lost without Ichigo, i just think that 0 Squad was sure that he would help them.
Thing about Ishida...yes, Mayuri was chosen because of his connection to Ishida's past and he isn't battle type. It's obvious that in terms of fighting skills Ishida would lost to Byakuya or Kenpachi for example, but his reiatsu in final form was formidable, that is without question. :ghehe:
Ryukuen is indeed powerful, and i'm not trying to say that he is stronger than captains or Aizen, take that he wasn't training, (or we weren't shown that)
so what do you think a fully mature Quincy with years and years of training could do...
I too find the thought that Quincy should be better than Aizen a bit difficult to digest...but...what do you know what will Kubo show.
After this first chapter i can say...we'll see, there are so many possibilities right now.
*cringe*
It looks like I may be wrong. From this weeks chapter it does look like it may be the Quincys. Especially the title "The Thousand-Year Blood War". We know the Quincy and Shinigami were in conflict with each other in the past. The titles seems to hint at a Quincy comeback.
I still find it hard to swallow that any Quincy could pose a threat to Ichigo or the Gotei 13 now, but I guess we can wait to see.
I do have a theory from the top of my head though:
Back in Soul Society, during Ishida vs Mayuri, Ishida was able to break apart the environment because everything that's spirit-based (including Soul Society) is composed of spirit particles, or reishi. Ishida broke them down and use them to fuel himself. I'm thinking that maybe the other Quincy (who ever they are) have found some way to cannibalize Hollows by killing them and taking in their spirit particles making them stronger. That's the I first thought when I read the first 2 pages because they seem to be killing high amounts of Hollows left and right. There must be a reason. This could potential give them the chance to grow in strength and actually be a worthy threat for the Gotei 13 and even the Royal Guard. They'd be offsetting the balance of souls while at the same time having access to, in theory, an unlimited source of power.
What I don't get is who the hell the other supposed Quincy could be. The Quincy were suppose to be near extinct. Now they suddenly pop in from no where? Kubo better give us a damn good explanation for this
But in a way it does make some sense. It'll give Ishida, being a Quincy, the opportunity to get back on equal footing with Ichigo and the Gotei 13 once again. He's been in the shadows for way too long
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