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You have to understand the word's canon and filler apply only to manga readers (and kishi zealots). The concept does not hold any merit to anime only viewers.So if one wants to discuss anime content, talk to anime watchers cause to manga readers most of that stuff is filler and they'll treat it as such
 

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The only part at point that really ticks me about this is the insane amount of hypocrisy that goes into their argument, it is quite absurd.

"We want more Kaguya backstory!"
"Alright then, here are a few episodes detailing how she came to Earth and also the father of the Sage of Six Path."
"Booo! This is filler garbage, nobody asked for this! "
 

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The only part at point that really ticks me about this is the insane amount of hypocrisy that goes into their argument, it is quite absurd.

"We want more Kaguya backstory!"
"Alright then, here are a few episodes detailing how she came to Earth and also the father of the Sage of Six Path."
"Booo! This is filler garbage, nobody asked for this! "
This^^^^^^
 

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fillers are good but arguments hyping the said character and others on that basis is what causes flame wars so most of the NB follow manga logic that author puts in his manga.
 

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fillers are good but arguments hyping the said character and others on that basis is what causes flame wars so most of the NB follow manga logic that author puts in his manga.

^this :coffee:
 

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Another hypocrisy is that members will accept any filler which augments itachi/madara's power but will flat out deny fillers for other characters.
 

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Canon by law is any thing Kishi says is canon Manga,books,anime,movies sines Kishi is creator only He determines what is and is not canon. No one else need apply unless they buy the rights from Kishi or have Kishi given them the right to do so. The same applies for all other writhers and Artist.
 

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fillers are good but arguments hyping the said character and others on that basis is what causes flame wars so most of the NB follow manga logic that author puts in his manga.


Who got hyped by this episode though? Kaguya and Hagoromo were already the strongest canonically. Who got hyped?
 

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Who got hyped by this episode though? Kaguya and Hagoromo were already the strongest canonically. Who got hyped?

Dont watch the anime, but I may go and look at the episode later
 

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The only part at point that really ticks me about this is the insane amount of hypocrisy that goes into their argument, it is quite absurd.

"We want more Kaguya backstory!"
"Alright then, here are a few episodes detailing how she came to Earth and also the father of the Sage of Six Path."
"Booo! This is filler garbage, nobody asked for this! "

So true. XD
 

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You have to understand the word's canon and filler apply only to manga readers (and kishi zealots). The concept does not hold any merit to anime only viewers.So if one wants to discuss anime content, talk to anime watchers cause to manga readers most of that stuff is filler and they'll treat it as such

Thats true.

But some filler can be canon too.

This type of filler actually showing something/scene that manga never shown the panel but manga tells us it actually happen.

Example: Frieza destroying planet Vegeta and wipe out all Saiyan.

Frieza or Vegeta many times told us about Planet Vegeta destruction.

In manga there is no panel showing how Frieza blown up Planet Vegeta.

Manga never shown it but anime cover it.
 
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Thats true.

But some filler can be canon too.

This type of filler actually showing something/scene that manga never shown the panel but manga tells us it actually happen.

Example: Frieza destroying planet Vegeta and wipe out all Saiyan.

Frieza or Vegeta many times told us about Planet Vegeta destruction.

In manga there is no panel showing how Frieza blown up Planet Vegeta.

Manga never shown it but anime cover it.
I personally think this is acceptable, but like I said, kishi zealots won't even give any material not explicitly written by him the time of day.
 

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The only part at point that really ticks me about this is the insane amount of hypocrisy that goes into their argument, it is quite absurd.

"We want more Kaguya backstory!"
"Alright then, here are a few episodes detailing how she came to Earth and also the father of the Sage of Six Path."
"Booo! This is filler garbage, nobody asked for this! "

Imo any origins story is canon, Kaguya's background and Itachi's childhood are canon because they explain how the characters ended up being what we see in the manga without contradicting Kishi's plot
 

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Canon by law is any thing Kishi says is canon Manga,books,anime,movies sines Kishi is creator only He determines what is and is not canon. No one else need apply unless they buy the rights from Kishi or have Kishi given them the right to do so. The same applies for all other writhers and Artist.
Underrated post. Very true.
 

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Imo any origins story is canon, Kaguya's background and Itachi's childhood are canon because they explain how the characters ended up being what we see in the manga without contradicting Kishi's plot

I dont think so.

That part need to be cover by Kishi and not SP. Unless Kishi gave SP the lay out.
 

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The only part at point that really ticks me about this is the insane amount of hypocrisy that goes into their argument, it is quite absurd.

"We want more Kaguya backstory!"
"Alright then, here are a few episodes detailing how she came to Earth and also the father of the Sage of Six Path."
"Booo! This is filler garbage, nobody asked for this! "

No one was asking for Kaguya backstory after the manga ended though, and no one definitely wanted it in the form of garbage ass filler.
 

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I dont think so.

That part need to be cover by Kishi and not SP. Unless Kishi gave SP the lay out.

Kishi never had time to make Kaguya's origins story so SP are doing it for him.
 
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