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Who will win the WC?


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Congratulations Argentina. However, i dont think Argentina have been impressive at all in this world cup. We should win seeing as to how we have dealt with Messi previously but you never know.
 

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Tbh today it's borderline impossible to score like that because Maradona would be fouled immediately, I've actually watched a panel of experts be dumbfounded that no defenders fouled him and criticise d the defenders for not doing it

They probably were just too overwhelmed by seeing him play.I have read Lineker's comments he was captivated by the goal. Nonetheless an enjoyable goal.
 

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Maradona is a great player who I myself admire but even he has admitted that messi has surpassed him. If Germany wins the worldcup muller gets shortlisted for balloon d or and has a chance of winning it but if argentina wins messi will more than likely take home the balloon d or. This is football nothing is impossible don't write out argentina yet.
 

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Based on the performances to date Germany is the better team and they deserve to win
 

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Maradona's hand of goal is always brought up yet people don't mention the fact that four minutes later he scored the goal of the century. Besides, Maradona had tougher opponents when he reached the final twice (1986- Uruguay, England, Belgium, Germany)

And then in 1990 he beat BRAZIL (stacked like hell during these days), a very strong Yugoslavia, and then Italy (had the likes of Roberto Baggio) who were the host nations that were very powerful (much more than the failures of Brazil today). Sure Messi helped out his team, but never to the degree Maradona did. Messi hasn't scored a single goal outside the group stage. He had easy teams like Bosnia, Iran, and Nigeria. It took Arg. 118 minutes to beat Switzerland. Belgium was a team full of new youth and they just couldn't finish their chances. Already discussed the dutch somewhere above too. On an international platform Maradona is better.

Besides, Argentina was gifted an easy road to the final by FIFA, because Argentina's killer is Germany. They lost to Germany in the last 2 WCs and had Germany & Argentina been put in the same side of the tournament then the same would've occurred. Germany has been the best team and they deserve this the most for keeping consistent. I remember Maradona said how Messi was crying after being destroyed 4-0 last WC even after everyone left the lockeroom. Sabella asked Messi how and who he wants to play, goes to show how their is no control by that man either.

Aside from this IMO Toni Kroos has been the best Midfielder of this Tournament by far. I can't quite come to the decision of best GK yet.

Well first off tactic were a lot different then and people didn't defend as deep, or did tactical fouls as we see nowadays, so its irrelevant to compare that time to this. Argentina faced Swtizerland who's ranked 6th in FIFA ranking and have a tactically smart coach in Hitzfeld who's won CL with Bayern and Dortmund. Belgium were considered the dark horses and won every game only conceding one goal, they have a talented team Kompany (EPL champion), Courtois (La Liga Champion and CL runner up), Hazard, De Bruyne, Lukaku who are ranked 11th and then they faced Netherlands who people though would own Argentina.

In 1990 WC Maradona was a former shell of himself and barely did anything (didn't even have a goal to his name and even missed a PK in one of the SO they had).

Argentina were given an easy group because they topped the South American group table as number 1, hence got the easier draws.

They were going to meet Germany regardless, so whats your point? By that logic Germany are lucky Spain/Italy are out as they are Germany killers? FIFA also set that up because if Spain/Italy topped their group (as they should've) They would've been in the same side as Argentina and Germany would've been avoiding them, but guess what they got eliminated.

Anyways Germany are clear favourites to win this and if they don't then they'll be considered the biggest flops ever, Argentina if anything over achieved win or lose they can hold their heads up, such an unbalance team injuries to key players Aguero/Di Maria and yet make it to the final.
 

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Germany are better team and deserve to win this world cup. Messi is highly overrated.:p
 

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Well all the best to Argentina
Netherlands didn't played well otherwise they surely would have won. Thought I am happy that Argentina are improved in their defence.
 

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I hope Germany loses they are too cocky :|...I hoping Argentina rapes them U_U.
 

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I realized Argentina is gonna win the penalty shootout the moment I saw Romero is such high spirits before the shootout. Compared to him Cillesen looked so worn out.

So Germany is taking the WC home this time Lol
 

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Well first off tactic were a lot different then and people didn't defend as deep, or did tactical fouls as we see nowadays, so its irrelevant to compare that time to this. Argentina faced Swtizerland who's ranked 6th in FIFA ranking and have a tactically smart coach in Hitzfeld who's won CL with Bayern and Dortmund. Belgium were considered the dark horses and won every game only conceding one goal, they have a talented team Kompany (EPL champion), Courtois (La Liga Champion and CL runner up), Hazard, De Bruyne, Lukaku who are ranked 11th and then they faced Netherlands who people though would own Argentina.

In 1990 WC Maradona was a former shell of himself and barely did anything (didn't even have a goal to his name and even missed a PK in one of the SO they had).

Argentina were given an easy group because they topped the South American group table as number 1, hence got the easier draws.

They were going to meet Germany regardless, so whats your point? By that logic Germany are lucky Spain/Italy are out as they are Germany killers? FIFA also set that up because if Spain/Italy topped their group (as they should've) They would've been in the same side as Argentina and Germany would've been avoiding them, but guess what they got eliminated.

Anyways Germany are clear favourites to win this and if they don't then they'll be considered the biggest flops ever, Argentina if anything over achieved win or lose they can hold their heads up, such an unbalance team injuries to key players Aguero/Di Maria and yet make it to the final.

Tactics were different, but if anything that just puts it in favor of Maradona. Rio puts it best:
"Diego played when you could tackle round a mans neck & get a stern word no yellow...zero protection....and still had defenders sitting down!"
They couldn't do anything to him, he was that good. Nowadays you touch a player and they're on the ground asking for a Free-Kick, Messi has done that in this tournament but I won't say its only him cause everyone does it. Furthermore the Referees of this tournament are simply awful, they don't ever call the right fouls and one someone makes a good challenge they instead are booked. It's not as physical as it used to be.

This tournament already showed that those rankings didn't mean much. The #1 team got destroyed by Netherlands and Portugal who was I think #4 also got destroyed by Germany. The Swiss were ranked higher than the French and were defeated heavily by them as well. Hitzfield is smart indeed, but the options he had to use at Bayern and Dortmund are much better than what he had at Switzerland. Not really a challenge all that much.

Belgium had another easy group, they weren't really tested and didn't perform that of what was expected of them in the Group Stage. The round of 16 match was against the USA and it took them Over-time goals to win. And Players that perform well at their clubs don't always do well on the international stage. Hazard was nothing special this tournament, and De Bruyne was decent. Lukaku wasn't even first choice over Origi and Courtouis wasn't tested much being that they played such easy group stage opponents. Belgium performed right on the 'Well' Mark. Higuain's volley was also unpredictable in the sense that it was kinda luck. Messi himself use to be a great example of being phenomenal in club and poor for country. He was even going to quit International Football at one point.

Maradona had an ankle injury during the 1990 WC, of course he couldn't perform to his all time high of the '86 tournament but he still helped out a lot especially by creating Chances such as setting up the goal against Brazil. He missed in the SO against Yugoslavia but scored in the very next shoot-out against Host-Nation Italy in the Semis, good way to redeem himself.

It's not just the draws, I read a blog once about how Argentina have the ideal conditions in this tournament. They play games in generally cooler temperatures in good playing conditions/regions of Brazil and usually face an opponent in the next round that have just got done playing in much hotter and weary conditions. They have the advantages in many ways. On the other hand Germany has been playing in generally much hotter conditions, though they were smart and prepared for this by training earlier to adapt to this.

No, its much different meeting Germany in the final than to meet them in a Quarter final. The pressure is bigger on both sides and teams may not play as open as they would in an earlier stage just from sheer tension/stress. Probably why Finals aren't usually large scoring games. And they were going to "meet Germany regardless" as they have not had any real challenge despite an exhausted Netherlands. Germany topped the Group of Death and proved themselves by beating teams like France and thrashing Brazil. Can't quite say the same for Argentina.

Italy and Spain used to be German Killers. Both squads wouldn't stand a chance against this Germany right now. The Italy squad has really gotten worse since 2006 where they were unstoppable to now where they can't get past the group. Spain would've been slaughtered as well considering their strategy is void against a German team. Not in the slightest of bit should've topped the group. I'm not even a German fan and its clear as day that Spain didn't deserve to get out the group. Italy is more subjective being they had more controversy (Red-card, Suarez) but even with that maybe they deserved to just advance. Costa Rica deserved to top the group, they played really well.

Argentina has been considered a One-Man show for the most part and he hasn't score a goal outside his Group Stage where the teams weren't a challenge. Agüero has been pretty shit this tournament. Sabella has no control over what goes on in the locker-room, Messi is the de-facto coach.

Anyways I look forward to this final.
 

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Ohlol, this is quite ... So we lost last night, and in our daily new paper it says; "Jippie-ka-jee mother****er" with the text, directly below; "Deutschland, jetzt geht's los!!" = "We will show German"

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Apparently, the printing house couldn't keep its excitement when the match went to penalties, so it decides to make two sides, one cheerful and the other one; depressing (for if we lost, like we did.) >_>

Other side of the newspaper it says; "Gevloerd" = "Knocked out"
 
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Tactics were different, but if anything that just puts it in favor of Maradona. Rio puts it best:
"Diego played when you could tackle round a mans neck & get a stern word no yellow...zero protection....and still had defenders sitting down!"
They couldn't do anything to him, he was that good. Nowadays you touch a player and they're on the ground asking for a Free-Kick, Messi has done that in this tournament but I won't say its only him cause everyone does it. Furthermore the Referees of this tournament are simply awful, they don't ever call the right fouls and one someone makes a good challenge they instead are booked. It's not as physical as it used to be.

This tournament already showed that those rankings didn't mean much. The #1 team got destroyed by Netherlands and Portugal who was I think #4 also got destroyed by Germany. The Swiss were ranked higher than the French and were defeated heavily by them as well. Hitzfield is smart indeed, but the options he had to use at Bayern and Dortmund are much better than what he had at Switzerland. Not really a challenge all that much.

Belgium had another easy group, they weren't really tested and didn't perform that of what was expected of them in the Group Stage. The round of 16 match was against the USA and it took them Over-time goals to win. And Players that perform well at their clubs don't always do well on the international stage. Hazard was nothing special this tournament, and De Bruyne was decent. Lukaku wasn't even first choice over Origi and Courtouis wasn't tested much being that they played such easy group stage opponents. Belgium performed right on the 'Well' Mark. Higuain's volley was also unpredictable in the sense that it was kinda luck. Messi himself use to be a great example of being phenomenal in club and poor for country. He was even going to quit International Football at one point.

Maradona had an ankle injury during the 1990 WC, of course he couldn't perform to his all time high of the '86 tournament but he still helped out a lot especially by creating Chances such as setting up the goal against Brazil. He missed in the SO against Yugoslavia but scored in the very next shoot-out against Host-Nation Italy in the Semis, good way to redeem himself.

It's not just the draws, I read a blog once about how Argentina have the ideal conditions in this tournament. They play games in generally cooler temperatures in good playing conditions/regions of Brazil and usually face an opponent in the next round that have just got done playing in much hotter and weary conditions. They have the advantages in many ways. On the other hand Germany has been playing in generally much hotter conditions, though they were smart and prepared for this by training earlier to adapt to this.

No, its much different meeting Germany in the final than to meet them in a Quarter final. The pressure is bigger on both sides and teams may not play as open as they would in an earlier stage just from sheer tension/stress. Probably why Finals aren't usually large scoring games. And they were going to "meet Germany regardless" as they have not had any real challenge despite an exhausted Netherlands. Germany topped the Group of Death and proved themselves by beating teams like France and thrashing Brazil. Can't quite say the same for Argentina.

Italy and Spain used to be German Killers. Both squads wouldn't stand a chance against this Germany right now. The Italy squad has really gotten worse since 2006 where they were unstoppable to now where they can't get past the group. Spain would've been slaughtered as well considering their strategy is void against a German team. Not in the slightest of bit should've topped the group. I'm not even a German fan and its clear as day that Spain didn't deserve to get out the group. Italy is more subjective being they had more controversy (Red-card, Suarez) but even with that maybe they deserved to just advance. Costa Rica deserved to top the group, they played really well.

Argentina has been considered a One-Man show for the most part and he hasn't score a goal outside his Group Stage where the teams weren't a challenge. Agüero has been pretty shit this tournament. Sabella has no control over what goes on in the locker-room, Messi is the de-facto coach.

Anyways I look forward to this final.
I completely agree with almost all the points, excellent post. Spain's debacle is something that I don't think can't be written off completely. I was expecting Spain to at least advance from group stage, but they failed to do that as well.:p


Anyways just found something really interesting,

No words.XD
 

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Fiend is leading Poster in this thread U__U

One more match to decide the Champions
 

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I completely agree with almost all the points, excellent post. Spain's debacle is something that I don't think can't be written off completely. I was expecting Spain to at least advance from group stage, but they failed to do that as well.:p


Anyways just found something really interesting,

No words.XD
Thanks Sach :)
I must admit I also thought Spain would advance early on but changed my mind after reading an interview where Casillas claim that "if they got knocked out in the group stage its alright due to the success they've had" lol.

XD
I can't believe people actually were uploading that XD
 

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Thanks Sach :)
I must admit I also thought Spain would advance early on but changed my mind after reading an interview where Casillas claim that "if they got knocked out in the group stage its alright due to the success they've had" lol.

XD
I can't believe people actually were uploading that XD
He seriously said that? Well that tells you all you need to know.
 

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^someone erased all the Brazilian players, just to show how basic and routine most goals actually were.
 

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^someone erased all the Brazilian players, just to show how basic and routine most goals actually were.

Thanks for sharing :leaf:
We should send this video to brazil team members XD
 

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Barca singing Suarez after signing one direction, what has this world come down to?:|
 
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