[Discussion] Feminsim

Inichi Matsuka

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look at my last reply really carefully

Once again, it is opinion whether or not the above views are correct.
I highly doubt the female staff of the site would concur with the above views,
seeing as one of the reasons they were most likely staffed was for being reasonable.
 
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Why do people still belive feminism is okay? by this i mean the following represented in the image:
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so yeah.... Feminism is a minor form of the exact opposite of the previous Male dominated society , i am for equality ; but right now both gender's have advantages over the other , some good examples
For females: The picture above
For males: Higher pay (on average) is one , Males still dominate gender segregated sports and the sports publicity or politics ,

So basically i kinda posted this to see if anyone agreed that : Equality (although many believe it has been achieved) has not been achieved ; whether it is racial , age or gender (in MEDC's)

for those who actually believe that both men and women are equal your clearly mistaken! some of the things you highlighted are minor issues. Okay so there are some double standards that you pointed out but most of the time women are treated second to men in everyway. We are treated like fragile beings who always need a mans help and this has been going on for century's. That's why when women are shown defending themselves from men its considered empowering and not "domestic" however there is a fine line between domestic and self defense.
 

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Deal with it. Women had to deal with man's stupidity as long as we can go back in history. Being looked at as f*ck bags, cooks and second rate citizen in general, I think they have all the right to whine.
 

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Deal with it. Women had to deal with man's stupidity as long as we can go back in history. Being looked at as f*ck bags, cooks and second rate citizen in general, I think they have all the right to whine.

They don't whine though... what some women do (the activists of feminism do) is take advantage of the fact women are more delicate and therefore get people to side with them ; this is taking advantage of the fact they are female hence the picture. However that is a small minority , but most women do this ; girls at my school do this.
 

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Woman are lower than men in every aspect wisdom power or whatever it is
 

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Woman > Man

Why women are more precious than men (in a logical group)?

We need 1 man to repopulate an entire tribe. (he can "virtually" fecond all women).

In contrary, the lack of women means the end of a tribe.

The only interest of having men is to have fighters to defend the tribe.Otherwise, they are useless.


20 men can marry 80 women.

So from 20 men (for example) can strengthen and enlarge the tribe.

80 X 3 = 240 Children (Initially 20 men)

Inversely, if you have 80 men and 20 women.

It's a disaster!

60 men will remain without women ,we'll get only 60 children ... (3 X 20)

So in one generation Tribe N°1 will have 180 more people!

Let's not be encumbered by "human taboos" (handled by the fashion and media ....)
 

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The image is funny but I hope you're not serious. Everyone is equal.

Nope, if I punch a woman, I am considered a coward. If some ***** punches me, then meh. No one gives a ****.
 

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Pein67 said:
Woman > Man

Why women are more precious than men (in a logical group)?

We need 1 man to repopulate an entire tribe. (he can "virtually" fecond all women).

In contrary, the lack of women means the end of a tribe.

The only interest of having men is to have fighters to defend the tribe.Otherwise, they are useless.


20 men can marry 80 women.

So from 20 men (for example) can strengthen and enlarge the tribe.

80 X 3 = 240 Children (Initially 20 men)

Inversely, if you have 80 men and 20 women.

It's a disaster!

60 men will remain without women ,we'll get only 60 children ... (3 X 20)

So in one generation Tribe N°1 will have 180 more people!

Let's not be encumbered by "human taboos" (handled by the fashion and media ....)

Everyone is equal , we are one species : Human , we are different races; but we all deserve the same treatment etc.

on top of which you are bad at maths , did those 60 children come from the men who had no woman in said imaginary illogical tribe?
or did every woman miraculously have triplets in one generation?

in a tribe Men and Women are roughly equal in numbers unless they have sacrificial rituals or sexism.
 
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Kill yourself.


Everyone is equal , we are one species : Human , we are different races; but we all deserve the same treatment etc.

on top of which you are bad at maths , did those 60 children come from the men who had no woman in said imaginary illogical tribe?
or did every woman miraculously have triplets in one generation?

in a tribe Men and Women are roughly equal in numbers unless they have sacrificial rituals or sexism.

You really missed the point on that one.Men and women have different natures and roles.A man can't take care of a baby for exemple..Also my explanation is true, you're just too bad in math, science or both...


Here an exemple : 1 man can impregnate 100 women, 100 men but can only impregnate a woman every 9 months ...

Lack of women means the end of a tribe.Women are more precious than men.
 

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You really missed the point on that one.Men and women have different natures and roles.A man can't take care of a baby for exemple..Also my explanation is true, you're just too bad in math, science or both...


Here an exemple : 1 man can impregnate 100 women, 100 men but can only impregnate a woman every 9 months ...

Lack of women means the end of a tribe.Women are more precious than men.
Although it may be true : Men are also important , without men there is no impregnation at all , therefore no children , just as if there are no men there is nothing to be impregnated with other than Gorilla's (the only other species capable of impregnating a woman to birth offspring successfully , this has been genetically proven , the next closest is a dandelion), we all have our roles , we should all be equal in an ideal world , sadly it is not possible
 

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It has nothing to do with it xD
There may be female staff on Narutobase, but can women that follow Islam in their home country under law show their bodies in public? Nope. If I'm correct, they're not to go out in public without a man accompanying them either. The idea of Equality would mean that everyone on our planet would be universally considered equal. (To BigBoss)

(Btw not shitting on the religion or anything because I'd rather not cause that, just stating some stuff to make a point)

Tch, people these days.

1. Sharia Law is not even implemented except in two countries, KSA and Iran. By law, a woman is not required to cover up, but the rest is society's imposed 'rules'.

2. No. Women, even in Iran, don't need a male to accompany them, despite whatever is the religious POV.

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As for the thread in general;

Equality is vague. It's equal opportunities that should be granted to both, and the rest depends on the individual's effort.

I do agree though there is a form of bias towards women sometimes, like the example of a breakup gone bad and suddenly there's accusations of rape while the guy is completely innocent.

On the other hand, many people have rape, sexual abuse and other derogatory jokes that are too tolerated, which reduces women's issues into laughing material, and Feminism comes to highlight it.
 

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Excellent points. Maybe people will realize feminism isn't what it seems to be generally.
 

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1. Sharia Law is not even implemented except in two countries, KSA and Iran. By law, a woman is not required to cover up, but the rest is society's imposed 'rules'.

2. No. Women, even in Iran, don't need a male to accompany them, despite whatever is the religious POV.

This is a classic example of Western failure to understand Middle-Eastern regions.

The "nation" is not really a legal institution. Only in the most industrially developed nations do they have any real authority. Generally, most of the laws governing individual behavior and standards are maintained by tribes and their claimed districts.

To parallel with U.S. governmental structure, in most of those nations, the 'nation' is one of our states with the equivalent of the Continental Congress presiding over the counties within the state that are self-sufficient governing entities with almost no restrictions in the laws they can establish in their 'county.'

The question isn't: "Is there a law...?"

The question is: "Will the locals kill me for this?"

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As for the thread in general;

Equality is vague. It's equal opportunities that should be granted to both, and the rest depends on the individual's effort.

I do agree though there is a form of bias towards women sometimes, like the example of a breakup gone bad and suddenly there's accusations of rape while the guy is completely innocent.

On the other hand, many people have rape, sexual abuse and other derogatory jokes that are too tolerated, which reduces women's issues into laughing material, and Feminism comes to highlight it.

It's about the same as the various race cards that people like to pull - though *** has a more universal appeal.

I've seen more than a few cases where a girl will invite her co-workers and superiors into compromising situations to 'inspire' them to make her job easier (usually by doing something for her). In some cases - she gives a considerable amount of 'service' to these people. In others - she merely makes them think they are close to getting said services.

Then, if any of them wise-up, and start distancing themselves and refusing to do favors - she calls in sexual harassment, rape, whatever she can think of. All she has to say is that: "He said that he needed .... additional reason... to consider my promotions" - and she's being thrown all kinds of money to keep from pressing charges by Corporate.

That said - there are guys who legitimately use their position to extort such things from females in their employ.

There will never be a 'solution' for it. So long as a girl can turn to give a guy just the view she knows he finds appealing - she'll be able to twist -someone- around her thumb. Not all guys will go for it - but enough will. Similarly, so long as anyone holds positional authority - he/she can use that position to pressure someone he/she finds attractive into actions to receive a promotion (even if unintentionally ... a supervisor finds he really likes one of his temporary workers and asks her on a date; she is seeking a permanent employment contract, and decides to take him up on the date because she doesn't want to damage her chances of being considered). And girls aren't exactly the only ones who get favors done for them. Attractive guys are more likely to be hired by the predominantly female hiring managers. Performance evaluations are less likely to be harsh to any member of the opposite *** generally considered to be attractive.

There is one 'solution' I've always wondered about, however. Originally, I considered it more for military purposes - but it might apply to other segments, as well. Rather than having a man or woman as your indivisible unit - it would be a male-female pair. Now - the original concept would be that you would be training special operatives from a young age in a group setting, then in their mid teenage years, allow them to naturally pair off through a series of challenges and make those pairings a permanent indivisible unit for the sake of deployments. Each pair would receive a single evaluation comprised by other pairs.

Though you would have to impose heavy selective controls on your starting populations. Infidelity is common among humans because of partnerships being considerably non-ideal (both in emotional satisfaction and in physical attraction). This system would only work if each pair was very content with their partnership - else the politics and griefs of infidelity would rip the system apart.

Might work in the future as an experimental society with strong 'warrior society' overtones.
 

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I agree with ya, the whole feminist movement is bs, they don't want equality, they want more(IMO.) I'm all for women having equal rights, they deserve it, just as much as they deserve equal pay, and to be respected just as well as any man, but it seems most die hard feminists don't want to stop at that. Instead of fighting for equality, they just attack males, and as the picture you posted shows, they only want equality in situations that are beneficial for them. I think it's a bs movement. Its 2013 dammit, we should all be equal on all matters, but guess that's not possible.
The ones that want more aren't real feminist. I'm a feminist and I just want equality, nothing more, nothing less.
 

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The ones that want more aren't real feminist. I'm a feminist and I just want equality, nothing more, nothing less.
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and i suppose you use the fact you're a woman as a weapon yes?
 
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