But wouldn't that make his lightning even stronger and make him able to hurt Luffy with Haki?
You're assuming logia DF users can coat their elements with Haki, and afawk that's not possible.
lol no... Physical attacks don't work, his DF doesn't work and then he's down to using Haki for every attack,
Can you please prove my point to the guys above? I'd rather watch a debate than being in a debate at the moment..
Haki coated attacks are stronger despite the the physical state of the attack though.
Intangibility was what made him undefeated, CoO is/has become inconsistent it's like people don't even have it at all in battle.
I get your point but my terms and conditions were that Enel had Armament and his experience and intelligence would have a boost, he wouldn't be caught by suprise twice like he was a million times when fighting Luffy
I think I may be a little biased about Enel, but I have a hard time seeing him as more than Vergo. What you stated in the OP is equivalent to Akainu with Enel's fruit and less durability (if you word it that way I'll be tempted to say he's admiral level lol)
Hahaha yeah I also think he'll be strong if he comes back (like I portrayed him in my OP), but you weren't wrong, you just didn't read my improvements for Enel, I thought what you said about all out battles and sudden loss of perception through Haki was really true
Doubt it, luffy had no answer for his CoO until he used rebounded punches and when he had to hold him in order to not let him escape
They do, it's just that it's not visible like CoA. Luffy blitzed the two snakes thanks to his speed despite them having CoO, thus implying with good enough speed, someone would bypass CoO which what usually happens
It will, smoker was coating his own smoke with haki
No. Luffy could never react to enel while moving as lighting, in fac, no character has shown that kind of reflex ro dodge lighting.
oh well, I'm currently arguing that CoA would push him far, he was already hax to begin with
Every other main character in the arc got in a decent hit, if he weren't intangible he'd be dead
My post was referring to how CoO is not a factor in any main fight we've seen past impel down, and how it won't be a factor of Enel were to fight a main character
No Bro, Smoker did not coat his smoke in Haki, he had to solidify and coat his fist each time, we did not see black smoke, and it's safe to assume we won't be seeing black Light beams, black magma, black swamp...... So CoA won't add to his lightning's lethality.
Well that's a fair point, but he becomes tangible to attack. Though it might be for comic relief but iirc Usopp dodged a hit
