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God of the nature, ENEL.




If he'd come back with training (more battle experience/intelligence and Haki of Armament.


° What would happen between him and Luffy in a fight?

° What could and would he achieve in the 'Blue Sea'?
 
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I think he'd be able to rule it, considering the strongest guy I recall Luffy beating there
was Arlong(also that armored dude) and he did that before Gear 2. Then there's the part where Arlong was able to imprison islands for years and avoid getting jailed until defeated.
 

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I think he'd be able to rule it, considering the strongest guy I recall Luffy beating there
was Arlong(also that armored dude) and he did that before Gear 2. Then there's the part where Arlong was able to imprison islands for years and avoid getting jailed until defeated.

But would he be able to beat Luffy? If (not) so what difficulty would it take?
 

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Nah he ain't beating luffy or any top tier character, armament Haki isn't doing him much good, his durability won't increase significantly even if he were training since he left skypea. So he'll still be mid VA level
 

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Nah he ain't beating luffy or any top tier character, armament Haki isn't doing him much good, his durability won't increase significantly even if he were training since he left skypea. So he'll still be mid VA level

But wouldn't that make his lightning even stronger and make him able to hurt Luffy with Haki?
 

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If Enel came back with busoshuko haki? rape would happen.
 

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But wouldn't that make his lightning even stronger and make him able to hurt Luffy with Haki?

You're assuming logia DF users can coat their elements with Haki, and afawk that's not possible.
I'm still waiting for aa mainstream logia to fight (smoker does not count, the dude can't even produce smoke)
 

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But would he be able to beat Luffy? If (not) so what difficulty would it take?

lol no... Physical attacks don't work, his DF doesn't work and then he's down to using Haki for every attack,
in which Luffy probably has the edge with Kings' Haki. Though I do believe Enel would have the edge in speed,
because of how his fruit allows him to travel, which would probably give him a huge advantage.

Going for mid dif for Luffy's win, ultimately I doubt Enel is very durable compared to Luffy.
 

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You're assuming logia DF users can coat their elements with Haki, and afawk that's not possible.
I'm still waiting for aa mainstream logia to fight (smoker does not count, the dude can't even produce smoke)

Haki coated attacks are stronger despite the the physical state of the attack though.

Plus coating himself with haki will increase his durability, not to mention his CoO alone was good enough to make him unbeatable back then, if he improves his country level CoO then I'm sure he'd be very difficult to catch when that adds up to his regular speed as a lighting-man.
 

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Enel's only weakness is Luffy.
 

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Haki coated attacks are stronger despite the the physical state of the attack though.

Plus coating himself with haki will increase his durability, not to mention his CoO alone was good enough to make him unbeatable back then, if he improves his country level CoO then I'm sure he'd be very difficult to catch when that adds up to his regular speed as a lighting-man.
Intangibility was what made him undefeated, CoO is/has become inconsistent it's like people don't even have it at all in battle.
Even if he has CoA, it won't add to the lethality of his lightning which is pathetic even by one piece's no death standard, also Luffy could sort of keep up with him pre-gear, I don't see anybody with soru like speed having too much of a problem with him.
I see him as mid-VA level meaning he'd lose to Vergo high diff
 

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Intangibility was what made him undefeated, CoO is/has become inconsistent it's like people don't even have it at all in battle.
Even if he has CoA, it won't add to the lethality of his lightning which is pathetic even by one piece's no death standard, also Luffy could sort of keep up with him pre-gear, I don't see anybody with soru like speed having too much of a problem with him.
I see him as mid-VA level meaning he'd lose to Vergo high diff

I get your point but my terms and conditions were that Enel had Armament and his experience and intelligence would have a boost, he wouldn't be caught by suprise twice like he was a million times when fighting Luffy
 

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I get your point but my terms and conditions were that Enel had Armament and his experience and intelligence would have a boost, he wouldn't be caught by suprise twice like he was a million times when fighting Luffy

I think I may be a little biased about Enel, but I have a hard time seeing him as more than Vergo. What you stated in the OP is equivalent to Akainu with Enel's fruit and less durability (if you word it that way I'll be tempted to say he's admiral level lol)
 

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I think I may be a little biased about Enel, but I have a hard time seeing him as more than Vergo. What you stated in the OP is equivalent to Akainu with Enel's fruit and less durability (if you word it that way I'll be tempted to say he's admiral level lol)

Hahaha yeah I also think he'll be strong if he comes back (like I portrayed him in my OP), but you weren't wrong, you just didn't read my improvements for Enel, I thought what you said about all out battles and sudden loss of perception through Haki was really true
 

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Intangibility was what made him undefeated,
Doubt it, luffy had no answer for his CoO until he used rebounded punches and when he had to hold him in order to not let him escape
CoO is/has become inconsistent it's like people don't even have it at all in battle.
They do, it's just that it's not visible like CoA. Luffy blitzed the two snakes thanks to his speed despite them having CoO, thus implying with good enough speed, someone would bypass CoO which what usually happens
Even if he has CoA, it won't add to the lethality of his lightning which is pathetic even by one piece's no death standard
It will, smoker was coating his own smoke with haki
also Luffy could sort of keep up with him pre-gear, I don't see anybody with soru like speed having too much of a problem with him.
No. Luffy could never react to enel while moving as lighting, in fac, no character has shown that kind of reflex ro dodge lighting.
I see him as mid-VA level meaning he'd lose to Vergo high diff
oh well, I'm currently arguing that CoA would push him far, he was already hax to begin with
 

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Enel can't defeat Luffy.
 

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If Enel returns he will be mid-high admiral lvl guy.
 

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Doubt it, luffy had no answer for his CoO until he used rebounded punches and when he had to hold him in order to not let him escape
Every other main character in the arc got in a decent hit, if he weren't intangible he'd be dead

They do, it's just that it's not visible like CoA. Luffy blitzed the two snakes thanks to his speed despite them having CoO, thus implying with good enough speed, someone would bypass CoO which what usually happens

My post was referring to how CoO is not a factor in any main fight we've seen past impel down, and how it won't be a factor of Enel were to fight a main character

It will, smoker was coating his own smoke with haki
No Bro, Smoker did not coat his smoke in Haki, he had to solidify and coat his fist each time, we did not see black smoke, and it's safe to assume we won't be seeing black Light beams, black magma, black swamp...... So CoA won't add to his lightning's lethality.
In my previous post I already said smoker can't even produce smoke that his not part of him, like how Aokiji had ice time or Kizaru's lasers

No. Luffy could never react to enel while moving as lighting, in fac, no character has shown that kind of reflex ro dodge lighting.
Well that's a fair point, but he becomes tangible to attack. Though it might be for comic relief but iirc Usopp dodged a hit
 

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If he comes back, than i would like to see Enel Vs Kizaru. That fight would be awesome...
 
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