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Hello guys, welcome to the next installment of Fear Threads! Today I will be discussing a certain similarity that I feel points towards the true intentions of the Juubi. Their are a few different sections but each is extremely short so feel free savor the read.
What is the Gedo?
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To put it simply the Gedo Mazou is the Juubi without its Chakra, in a sense it is the Juubi in its rawest purest form, unaltered and/or adulterated by its Chakra. As we know the Juubi can take on several different forms and because of that it is hard to account for which form is its true form. Personally alot of people think the God Tree is the Juubi's true form but I disagree, The God Tree is the Juubi's chosen Final form. But if we took Obito, stripped him of all his Hashirama DNA and this and that, wouldnt what we have left by Obito's True form? Idk, Lets move on.
In the picture above we see the Gedo Mazou sitting down in a certain stance. This is the stance that the Gedo often takes when not out and about being controlled by whoever. So then the question must arise... Why this stance?
Analysis of Stance
Well I believe the stance is a mixture... A mixture of who??
Now if you dont already know who those crazy monkeys are they are Mizaru, Kikazaru, Iwazaru, and Shizaru. They represent the old saying "See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil, Do no Evil". They represent a corner stone in Shinto and Buddhist beliefs, here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
"It is also possible that the three monkeys came from a more central root than a play on words. The shrine at Nikko is a Shinto shrine, and the monkey is an extremely important being in the Shinto religion.[citation needed] The monkey is believed to be the messenger of the Hie Shinto shrines, which also have connections with Tendai Buddhism. There are even important festivals that are celebrated during the year of the Monkey (occurring every twelve years) and a special festival is celebrated every sixteenth year of the Kōshin." *BTW If you are familiar with Sir Derp Obito's works then you know that he believes that the Uzumaki are really Kishimoto's interpretations of Shinto Priests, and if the Monkeys are extremely important to Shinto Religion, then this finding lays more claim to the fact that the Sage of 6 Paths may have something to do with the Uzumaki... I disgress*
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Now if you dont already know who those crazy monkeys are they are Mizaru, Kikazaru, Iwazaru, and Shizaru. They represent the old saying "See no evil, Hear no evil, Speak no evil, Do no Evil". They represent a corner stone in Shinto and Buddhist beliefs, here is an excerpt from Wikipedia:
"It is also possible that the three monkeys came from a more central root than a play on words. The shrine at Nikko is a Shinto shrine, and the monkey is an extremely important being in the Shinto religion.[citation needed] The monkey is believed to be the messenger of the Hie Shinto shrines, which also have connections with Tendai Buddhism. There are even important festivals that are celebrated during the year of the Monkey (occurring every twelve years) and a special festival is celebrated every sixteenth year of the Kōshin." *BTW If you are familiar with Sir Derp Obito's works then you know that he believes that the Uzumaki are really Kishimoto's interpretations of Shinto Priests, and if the Monkeys are extremely important to Shinto Religion, then this finding lays more claim to the fact that the Sage of 6 Paths may have something to do with the Uzumaki... I disgress*
Interesting Find
Now this is the interesting part:
If you look at this image you will notice that:
Its eyes are close/blind folded - It see's no Evil
Its ears are blocked - It hears no Evil
Its mouth is gagged - It speaks no Evil
Now here is where it gets interesting, In the story of the Monkeys the 4th Monkey who does no evil has his hands cross in his lap. And yet we see the Gedo's hands are not only upwards in the opposite position of the 4th monkey, but they are also handcuffed. But... Why? The Gedo cant move or anything, what purpose could handcuffing its hands serve? It is symbolism.
Handcuffs represent someone being forced to do something outside of their control. The Gedo Mazo's Hand being cuffed and then put in a position opposite of the 4th Monkey to me shows that it is being Forced to Do Evil.
See No Evil
Hear No Evil
Speak No Evil
Forced to Do Evil
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If you look at this image you will notice that:
Its eyes are close/blind folded - It see's no Evil
Its ears are blocked - It hears no Evil
Its mouth is gagged - It speaks no Evil
Now here is where it gets interesting, In the story of the Monkeys the 4th Monkey who does no evil has his hands cross in his lap. And yet we see the Gedo's hands are not only upwards in the opposite position of the 4th monkey, but they are also handcuffed. But... Why? The Gedo cant move or anything, what purpose could handcuffing its hands serve? It is symbolism.
Handcuffs represent someone being forced to do something outside of their control. The Gedo Mazo's Hand being cuffed and then put in a position opposite of the 4th Monkey to me shows that it is being Forced to Do Evil.
See No Evil
Hear No Evil
Speak No Evil
Forced to Do Evil
Meaning
To me this ties into the True nature and/or motives of the Juubi itself, as we know the Gedo is the Juubi in its rawest purest form. And so the Juubi is either being forced to commit Evil or has been placed in a position in which it must commit Evil.
He stripped the Juubi of its Chakra and sealed it into the moon when he was nearing his death bed. And so it would have been around the time when he had decided to give the younger brother a chance to bring peace to the world his own way. But what if the Sage didnt approve of this decision, what if he agreed with the older brother who thought peace could only be obtained through force but just felt that the younger brother deserved a chance to find peace. And thus sealed the Juubi's hands that way to express that its Chakra, know the tailed beasts, would probably cause much strife and pain to the world, the same way the power of Ninjutsu did, and thus the Juubi's power would do evil, and by extension the Juubi would be forced to do Evil against its will.
The idea of the Sage disagreeing with the younger brother is actually something I have theorized before, you can check it out here. [
This is pretty self evident, stripped of its powers and now sealed the Juubi feels that not only will the power that was stolen from it by the Princess but its very own Chakra would be used to cause great Evil. And thus chose that position to reflect the fact that its power would be used to do great Evil against its Will.
Perhaps a final warning to the Sage for the action he was about to commit. (With him being a Shinto Priest, he would undoubtedly understand the message.)
- The Juubi is being forced to go through with the Eye of the Moon Plan against its will.
- The Juubi is forced to try and take its power back from the Princess in order to make the world a better place.
Sage
He stripped the Juubi of its Chakra and sealed it into the moon when he was nearing his death bed. And so it would have been around the time when he had decided to give the younger brother a chance to bring peace to the world his own way. But what if the Sage didnt approve of this decision, what if he agreed with the older brother who thought peace could only be obtained through force but just felt that the younger brother deserved a chance to find peace. And thus sealed the Juubi's hands that way to express that its Chakra, know the tailed beasts, would probably cause much strife and pain to the world, the same way the power of Ninjutsu did, and thus the Juubi's power would do evil, and by extension the Juubi would be forced to do Evil against its will.
The idea of the Sage disagreeing with the younger brother is actually something I have theorized before, you can check it out here. [
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This is pretty self evident, stripped of its powers and now sealed the Juubi feels that not only will the power that was stolen from it by the Princess but its very own Chakra would be used to cause great Evil. And thus chose that position to reflect the fact that its power would be used to do great Evil against its Will.
Perhaps a final warning to the Sage for the action he was about to commit. (With him being a Shinto Priest, he would undoubtedly understand the message.)
Conclusion
What do you guys think? I mean I know by this time no one still believes the Juubi is pure Evil as some may have thought. But could it actually be oppose to the idea of Evil? Not in the sense that it is good, but in the sense that it does not acknowledge evil in a sense.
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UPDATE #1
What I meant was more than it is against the notion of evil, as in it does not intervene. I was perhaps a little vague when mentioning the 3 Wise Monkeys.I would rather not use the word evil, but could you define evil?
The Juubi has created everything in Naruto world right?
Including mankind?
Mankind fought with each other, before the Juubi's chakra was taken (the fruit).
The Juubi didnt intervene yet, because it was not being involved in the fighting.
When princess Kaguya ate the forbidden fruit and used the Juubi's power, the
Juubi became involved. This is the reason why the Juubi attacked.
Not because of being good, evil or whatever, but because it got involved in the wars.
The Juubi is a creator and doenst want to be involved in the wars of its creation.
However, when the princess took the Juubi's power (the fruit), Juubi was being made
part of the war.
The Juubi wants all its power back, but not because it would be against evil. The Juubi wants back what belongs to it.
As Kurama saidIt has no feelings or ideals, it cant be sensed.You must be registered for see images
Its quite sad really, how mankind even made the 9 bijou part of the war, so they basically continued using the
Juubi's chakra for war, even when in a different form with feelings and ideals, which the 9 bijou have.
Hard to imagine how something without feelings and ideals can create though, dont you think?
So maybe it does have them in some/one form.
The 3 Wise monkeys Stories can be better translated to mean:
Rather than See no Evil - Do not Look at Evil
Rather than Hear no Evil - Do not listen to Evil
Rather than Say no Evil - Do not Speak of Evil
Rather than do not Evil - Well.. Still do not Evil
So in a sense it is ignoring Evil as oppose to trying not to commit Evil. Which explains why the Tree and its people can live in peace around it while their are wars going on all over the place.
And perhaps that is what made the Sage feel that the Juubi lacked feelings and ideals because he felt it would have to be that way in order to ignore all the evil that was going on around it within intervening. Lets actually look further into this:
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Now here is the interesting part:
Ideals [
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] : 3. An ultimate object of endeavor; a goal.
4. An honorable or worthy principle or aim.
Now this is a weird because we know that the Tailed Beast never met the Juubi, they were created at the same time that it was sealed away. So then how do they know about it? The Sage. What they know of the Juubi was what was told to them from the Sage.
Now let us relate this to someone else who has no Goals or Ideals [
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But does this make Orochimaru Evil? I dont think so, he has shown that he is capable of great good. And on top of that he isnt exactly selfish. I think he just grasps a bigger picture which allows him to look past some seemingly horrible things in order to attain that bigger picture. Now in the same sense we have the Juubi, now remember that for a long time it and its people were living in "Peace" during a time where the world was pretty much at war.
I believe that this evil was allowed to go on simply for the fact that their was a bigger picture. Perhaps if the war was allowed to take its course then eventually peace would be obtained?
Now we have Kaguya's son who see's the warring happening and attempts to use his power to stop the warring only to find that the Juubi is trying to prevent him from doing so. Now ofcourse if the Juubi is obssessed with taking back its power instead of trying to stop the warring then this could come off as a lack of empathy for the human race, and a lack of aim since if it got its power back it would merely go back to being the God Tree and living in seclusion.
This is just my long and wordy way of saying that the Sages words may be misinterpreted as meaning the Juubi is void of emotion and evil, when in actually he was just expressing his disdain for the fact that the Juubi could be so callus.
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