[Theory] [FEAR] Analysis: How Madara is Absorbing Chakra

[FearxDeath]

Yet he was able to use Katon as well.

Madara uses the black rods for the rikudou technique.

Chapter 606 page 15

So no, it's not flawed since the stakes are in effect.


Lastly, those scans of Nagato using preta has sound effects on every page in Japanese, soon

Your wrong there too

Just wanted to let you know that I wont be able to continue this discussion for the following reasons:

1) Your response is very unorganized, took a while to find out what you were replying to and why.

2) Your response makes little to no sense, you should take the extra time to type more words and make what your saying clearer.

3) All of your responses were severly lacking, for instance:

Yet he was able to use Katon as well. Why did you say this?

Madara uses the black rods for the rikudou technique. Why did you say this?

Chapter 606 page 15

So no, it's not flawed since the stakes are in effect. Why did you say any of this?


Lastly, those scans of Nagato using preta has sound effects on every page in Japanese, soon True.. but the one with Madara has no sound effects? So why would you address one and then ignore the other?

Your wrong there too

 

[VongolaX]

Just wanted to let you know that I wont be able to continue this discussion for the following reasons:

1) Your response is very unorganized, took a while to find out what you were replying to and why.

2) Your response makes little to no sense, you should take the extra time to type more words and make what your saying clearer.

3) All of your responses were severly lacking, for instance:

Yet he was able to use Katon as well. Why did you say this?

Madara uses the black rods for the rikudou technique. Why did you say this?

Chapter 606 page 15

So no, it's not flawed since the stakes are in effect. Why did you say any of this?


Lastly, those scans of Nagato using preta has sound effects on every page in Japanese, soon True.. but the one with Madara has no sound effects? So why would you address one and then ignore the other?

Your wrong there too

1. The high variations of katon are well used by Uchiha's also:

Read What Hashirama said:

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2. You can't read, simple

3. refer to answer number #1

part b: Ridukou technique translate to six path technique, Madara used Preta through his Will:

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c. Nagato has sound effects on every single page SOOO <---It was a typo before corrected.

Your post, just delete it

 

[VongolaX]

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READ BOTTOM LEFT

 

[FearxDeath]

1. The high variations of katon are well used by Uchiha's also:

Read What Hashirama said:

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2. You can't read, simple

3. refer to answer number #1

part b: Ridukou technique translate to six path technique, Madara used Preta through his Will:

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c. Nagato has sound effects on every single page SOOO <---It was a typo before corrected.

Your post, just delete it

Just to let you know I wasnt joking when I said I wouldnt be discussing you, your reply which was equally as confusing as your first reply does very little to change my mind. Sorry about the confusion, but I dont waste time debating people like you. Especially when it is less of a debate and more like me explaining to you how you are wrong.

 

[VongolaX]

Just to let you know I wasnt joking when I said I wouldnt be discussing you, your reply which was equally as confusing as your first reply does very little to change my mind. Sorry about the confusion, but I dont waste time debating people like you. Especially when it is less of a debate and more like me explaining to you how you are wrong.

Failed thread

Just because your wrong and you have absolutely nothing.

Next time don't go to other threads and tell me to read your failed theory.

 

[FearxDeath]

Failed thread

Just because your wrong and you have absolutely nothing.

Next time don't go to other threads and tell me to read your failed theory.

I wasnt talking to you, I was talking to the threads host.

Think about it this way since your so smart. You posted on my thread, before I made the post on other thread to my thread. So then knowing that why would I ask you to read my thread a second time?

Your self importance is misplaced, people will respect you alot more if you got rid of it.

 

[The 1 who knows]

And here i was Thinking he is using the eyes for the hashi on his chest.. .

 

[osba]

jiraya absorbed chakra too using a seal.. maybe he is just capable of molding his chakra the same way you would mold a seal?

 

[Draxus]

You seem to have overlooked why Madara needs to be bleeding in order to use the chakra absorbing abilities. Both times he used it he had open wounds.

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that's why this theory seems more likely right now:

Uchiha+senju=six path technique power.

You don't need the rinnegan to use the six paths if you have^^

So against Hashi he used preta path (non rinnegan version).

There is power mixing his uchiha blood with the senju dna on his body, that's why he is more powerful alive than as an edo.

 

[Naruto.]

Holy shieeeeeeeeeet! I never thought of this! This is a great thread.

 

[FearxDeath]

jiraya absorbed chakra too using a seal.. maybe he is just capable of molding his chakra the same way you would mold a seal?

2 Things old friend:

1) We would have seen the Seal somewhere, Much like Naruto's Seal on his Chest or any other seal, the Chakra must have been locked into some seal. There was non seen or shown, which means until then we cannot say that is what happened.

2) Seals, unlike Jutsu, require preparation, molding of Chakra, Hand Stances, Scrolls, etc... He had non of these.

Is it possible it was a seal? Ofcourse, can we say it is likely based on what we have seen? I dont think so.

You seem to have overlooked why Madara needs to be bleeding in order to use the chakra absorbing abilities. Both times he used it he had open wounds.

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that's why this theory seems more likely right now:

There is power mixing his uchiha blood with the senju dna on his body, that's why he is more powerful alive than as an edo.

That sounds insane to me, it probably makes alot more sense in your head than it does outloud... Blood has to touch his skin to mix powers?? Where... Why? How likely do you think this is.

There are several other reasons as to why he would bite himself.

Holy shieeeeeeeeeet! I never thought of this! This is a great thread.

Thanks alot man, Im glad you liked it!

 

[Shinato]

If I am not mistaken, then you base this entire theory on that Madara closed his eyes, correct? If so, then you also commented that he would have no other reason for closing his eye, and you hinted towards that closing his eyes because he lacked them would be a bad reason. Then let me quickly ask you this;

Why would Obito close his eyes in his "dream" of a Hokage title?

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That single Panel goes against your entire theory, if you aren't somehow able to explain it.

 

[FearxDeath]

If I am not mistaken, then you base this entire theory on that Madara closed his eyes, correct? If so, then you also commented that he would have no other reason for closing his eye, and you hinted towards that closing his eyes because he lacked them would be a bad reason. Then let me quickly ask you this;

Why would Obito close his eyes in his "dream" of a Hokage title?

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That single Panel goes against your entire theory, if you aren't somehow able to explain it.

1) I never commented that

2) I never hinted towards that either

This is what happens when one goes out of his way to put words in other peoples mouth as oppose to just qouting me directly for what i said exactly.

My theory isnt based on the notion that people only close their eyes to access Sharingans, my theory is based on the notion that when an Uchiha closes their eyes they can access their sharingans via proxy.

 

[Bronze]

No...it has nothing to do with any of this explanation of OP or any theory.

It is just unique trait of Madara.

 

[FearxDeath]

No...it has nothing to do with any of this explanation of OP or any theory.

It is just unique trait of Madara.

There is none so blind as he who will not see...

Hashirama's Mokuton has nothing to do with KKG or any other explanation, it is just a unique trait of Hashirama... Logic is fun

 

[Bronze]

There is none so blind as he who will not see...

Hashirama's Mokuton has nothing to do with KKG or any other explanation, it is just a unique trait of Hashirama... Logic is fun

No...it isn't a mystery as you make it sound. And as VariaBossX said, it comes from Uchiha and Senju power [

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Mokuton = Juubi > Rikudou Sennin > Younger son > Hashirama Senju.

 

[FearxDeath]

No...it isn't a mystery as you make it sound. And as VariaBossX said, it comes from Uchiha and Senju power [

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Mokuton = Juubi > Rikudou Sennin > Younger son > Hashirama Senju.

People say alot of things, for instance. Varia said that it comes from some mysterious Senju Uchiha DNA power that no one has ever heard of and one that Obito who is also Senju and Uchiha doesnt have either... now call me a skeptic but I dont randomly believe in mysterious (never before mentioned or even implied) powers.

My theory on the other hand is rooted in manga fact with Scans for reference. Now you can disagree with it, and thats fine because I dont expect everyone to agree. But as you can see in my theory I have atleast made an attempt to bring evidence as to how and why my theory is correct.

You to say "It is just unique trait of Madara."

Q: Why do you believe this
A: Because Madara is the only one to use it

Q: Do you have any evidence
A: Umm, Madara used it duh

There is no substance. By the way, the scan you show me shows absolutely nothing, it is Obito talking about Izangi, it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. Unless you think Madara used Izangi without eyes?

 

[Shinato]

I believe that closing ones eyes allows you access to your eyes.

Why would he close his eyes just because he didnt have them?

You stated both of those, now if I am not mistaken. You just said that he had no reason to close his eyes other than your theory, and you also hinted towards it being a bad reason or not a reason at all to close it his "just because he didn't have his eyes". I'll leave the original quotes of your posts in spoilers below and bold out where you said this, so you won't come out and say that I just place that text in a quote tag. ( I will also underline and color the text. )

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Thanks for the comment, I have 2 things to ask you then:

1) Why would he close his eyes just because he didnt have them?
2) How is he able to absorb Chakra

3) And most importantly, why would kishi chose to have Naruto make a statement that was completely without merit. Rarely, no never have I seen a question asked in this manga, within these context, that did not have a deeper meaning or merit.

He could have asked why Madara was bleeding, Why did Sasuke attack him, Why did Madara look at Sasuke, Why did... Instead he asked why he closed his eyes. Something so minute and purposeless? But what if it had purpose?

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After the last manga alot of people have been asking question as to how Madara is able to absorb Chakra without having his eyes or any known Absorption techs.[

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Absorbing Chakra​

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On 3 Instances we see Madara absorbing Chakra:

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Principle To Live By​

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The principle I live by when reading Manga and watching anything that revolves around mysteries and subtle clues is the notion that no one does anything without a reason. Fairly simple but lets explain it.

Your watching a muder movie and at every crime scene you see an ice cream truck in the background. There has to be a reason for it being there... Not only why is it there but why is the author choosing to put it there?

Lets see what we have in the Manga:

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Did anyone catch it? There was something very subtle stated in that scan, something that wouldnt have been said if it wasnt a clue to something... Read it again before you find the answer in the spoiler tag below.

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"Why did he close his eyes?"

Below I will Elaborate

How He Did It​

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I believe that closing ones eyes allows you access to your eyes. Let me explain with a scan:

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In the above we see that Obito, who also had one of his eyes removed and placed into someone else, began to receive visual images from his real eye when he closed his eyelids.

It is my claim that Madara did the same thing, he closed his eyes intentionally in order to access his Rinnegan and the tech it contains, one of which being Chakra Absorption.

But where is his Rinnegan? Its very interesting you may ask:

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But one has to consider that even with a Psuedo-Rinnegan connection to the Rinnegan it is going to be hard for Madara to fight without being able to see anything. But again this is explained by my Principle, nothing is done without a reason. So the only thing we must do now is find an action lacking a good explanation:

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He molded chakra, then high tailed it over to Hashirama in order to absorb his Chakra... But why?

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A Qoute from the Wiki

"Sages, who utilise natural energy, can also detect presence of people through their chakra, essentially making them sensors: in fact, the word senjutsu (仙術) uses the same hiragana: せんじゅつ, as the art of scrying (占術), an allusion to the abilities of Sages to sense persons while in Sage Mode." [

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In order to fight without eye sight he needed to immense sensing capabilities of Sage Mode.

As Usual, Enjoy the Read​

I never said your theory was terrible to begin with, and I never hinted towards that either. I said it was false, and I pointed out that you did a single wrong thing with your theory. You based it off a single point, and single motion and action which we've seen numerous other characters already did, without the same effects as Madara. You pointed out that Madara was able to use the Rinnegan Powers from Obito's eye socket which holds Madara's original Rinnegan. To prove this you pointed out that Obito was able to see what Kakashi saw when he held over his missing eye. Though Obito had his eye closed the entire time he was in Madara's Cave. Why didn't Obito see what Kakashi saw all the time? Was it because he hid his Sharingan behind a band? Perhaps, but Kakashi had already started a fight long before using Chidori on Rin, which means that Obito would have been able to see the entire fight and not just the ending. That is one point where you theory cracks.

Another point is based on the exact same characters again, if Obito was able to see what Kakashi was able to at all times, then he wouldn't have had any need for spies and such. He wouldn't need Zetsu to record several fight, as he would already been able to see it through his eye in Kakashi. Second point your theory cracks in. The third point would be during the War, if Kakashi could see everything Obito could see while he had his band in front of his Sharingan, then he would be able to tell where Kabuto was, what Obito was planning and so on. This "close your eyes and see the other sharingan" event has happen twice in the series, once to Obito and once to Kakshi. Ironically enough, it happen to both of them when either of them while they were waiting or in a stress.

 

[Shinichi Izumi]

I wanna know how the hell Madara was healing his wound from Sasuke on the last page