[Predictions] Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 498 Discussion and 499 Predictions

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"Gray VS Invel"

Fairy Tail Manga Chapter 498 Discussion and 499 Predictions

Discuss Fairy Tail Manga 498 here and predict the next chapter, Fairy Tail Manga 499

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[Acnologia..]

Great chapter, we got some action between Grey and Invel.

 

[90sKids98]

Now this was a good chapter, I had a feeling thats what the side effect of Gray's Devil Slayer magic was. Also wondering what Brandish is going to do or say to Natsu and Lucy lol. Definitely a 5/5 chapter

 

[Black Wizard]

Good chapter, but too predictable next chapter gray and juvia will probably break free.Come on guys look what happened with gajeel no one is going to die it's fairy tail lol.

 

[Scorps]

Didn't like it. We already knew that Gray's powers were corrupting him and we already knew that he would be the one to fight Invel and that Juvia would be by his side. He will injure juvia then in a rage, he'll overcome Invel's magic due to having hurt Juvia then he'll allow Darkness to consume him and defeat Invel. Brandish will save Natsu and the others. Thats why she picked them up and what not.

I'm not expecting much more but... meh.

 

[lilix96]

Hope gray soon finds out that natsu is end maybe its invel who tells him

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Lmao trash asf. "Freezing ice" Yikes, "I dont make toys with ice, I control its very essence" to some extent thats what every ice magician does but nah gotta put some random words to make him sound special fam

Gray gonna get consumed by darkness and get all edgy on us
Juvia gonna save him from it
Inveel gonna "kill" juvia in the last attempt so that gray would become an emotionaless demon that could slay zerf


Can't wait for the next chapter, this was very well written tbvh :lol

 

[mangenkyo]

So apparently natsu can melt the strongest ice in fairy tail.

 

[Caliburn]

Didn't like it. We already knew that Gray's powers were corrupting him and we already knew that he would be the one to fight Invel and that Juvia would be by his side. He will injure juvia then in a rage, he'll overcome Invel's magic due to having hurt Juvia then he'll allow Darkness to consume him and defeat Invel. Brandish will save Natsu and the others. Thats why she picked them up and what not.

I'm not expecting much more but... meh.

I'm personally going for that either Gray or Juvia hurts him or herself to save the other. My initial thought was that it was going to be Juvia, but maybe Hiro surprises me.

Lmao trash asf. "Freezing ice" Yikes, "I dont make toys with ice, I control its very essence" to some extent thats what every ice magician does but nah gotta put some random words to make him sound special fam

Gray gonna get consumed by darkness and get all edgy on us
Juvia gonna save him from it
Inveel gonna "kill" juvia in the last attempt so that gray would become an emotionaless demon that could slay zerf


Can't wait for the next chapter, this was very well written tbvh :lol

Actually no there is a fundamental difference there. The only thing Gray can do, is create static objects out of ice. Lyon on the other hand can only create dynamic objects made out of ice. Hence why Gray primarily makes stuff like shields, spears, swords and hammers while Lyon makes birds, apes and other animals. Their abilities are restricted to that and neither of them can suddenly create a frost environment.

If I would define Invel's ability, it would be something like cold temperature control? Ice is the result of water being in an environment with a temperature below 0°. Gray and Lyon bypass that by creating the ice directly, but that doesn't take away that most of the environments they make it in, isn't really suited for their ice. However if you can manipulate the environment into a cold one, by extension you can control all forms of ice within that environment. The latter flows out of the former, but the opposite is not true (or in the least barely efficient). So yeah that would make Invel's magic the essence of all ice magic.

Now I don't know if this is exactly was what Hiro was envisioning as he doesn't really have a good track record in regards to explaining stuff like this properly, but it remains very well true that a subtle distinction can be made, so these are not just random words to make him special.

 

[Jin]

Fairy Tail never ceases to amaze me with it's logic.

 

[V h o]

So devil slaying magic is a form of dark magic that comes from zeref. Interesting. Chapter was 4/5 pretty good but most things we knew. Wonder what will happen to Gray with this darkness. Would guess juvia love would overwhelm the darkness and he keeps the power up :lol

 

[Memento Mori]

Chapters seems okay for me. Wonder to where Brandish is taking Natsu to?. Maybe to fight against Irene?. She doesn't look like the one to fight from her actions. And seems like chapter 500 is what Mashima is setting to reveal Gray's darkness completely. There are some subtle hints about Gray's Past and his tragedies and his so called darkness in the manga.

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Just wanna reminisce it........Gray lost his parents in Deliora incident. Later at which he lost Ur. Tartarus....He has to kill his own dead father. Had to remember all the Tragic Past. And the tragedy in his life made him get all lust for the revenge against END/Demons in general. For that he even joined the Avatar Cult. And then we had the small subtle hints about Gray's darkness and his lust for revenge.(Not counting the ones in Tartarus).

And I feel like Mashima want Gray to go on dark side afterwards. I guess what we saw during Avatar incident is just a teaser of Gray being evil. And mashima experimented to see the reactions of fans at that time I assume. I am pretty sure from what the comments I have read in 2ch. forums, Evil Gray got mixed reviews. Some liked it as a change in the story and mainly because it is a theme running in Gray's background for a while now. And some didn't liked it including me. But wanna see what happens now. I am really curious about Gray in future of FT.

And it seems like next chapter is all about just Juvia and Gray. I think this is the time where Gray will convey his feelings for Juvia irrespective of her death. So if somehow Hiro decides to write off Juvia permanently(doubt it. Gruvia is the second popular pairing after NaLu) or temporarily(just like in case of Aquarius), I guess chapter 500 is about Gray's transformation and hopefully Acnologia. Well, many things might happen!. Like Fairy Heart, Mavis to her senses, Natsu meeting Larcade Dragneel and something happening on the way. August meeting Gildarts. Or Laxus or Jellal returing. Whatever!

If thinking more are the marks on the body then more is the power of DeS magic......then Gray is currently 1/4th demonized I guess.

Next chapter definitely going to be feels alone like in case of Gajevy.^^

 

[Hexuze]

Lame chapter. Invel is such a pathetically boring character...

 

[BlueMeteor]

Enough of the ice mages

 

[Venomous Cobra]

I'm personally going for that either Gray or Juvia hurts him or herself to save the other. My initial thought was that it was going to be Juvia, but maybe Hiro surprises me.



Actually no there is a fundamental difference there. The only thing Gray can do, is create static objects out of ice. Lyon on the other hand can only create dynamic objects made out of ice. Hence why Gray primarily makes stuff like shields, spears, swords and hammers while Lyon makes birds, apes and other animals. Their abilities are restricted to that and neither of them can suddenly create a frost environment.

If I would define Invel's ability, it would be something like cold temperature control? Ice is the result of water being in an environment with a temperature below 0°. Gray and Lyon bypass that by creating the ice directly, but that doesn't take away that most of the environments they make it in, isn't really suited for their ice. However if you can manipulate the environment into a cold one, by extension you can control all forms of ice within that environment. The latter flows out of the former, but the opposite is not true (or in the least barely efficient). So yeah that would make Invel's magic the essence of all ice magic.

Now I don't know if this is exactly was what Hiro was envisioning as he doesn't really have a good track record in regards to explaining stuff like this properly, but it remains very well true that a subtle distinction can be made, so these are not just random words to make him special.

Gray isn't restricted to creating objects, he can also

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his surroundings tho. Sliver also did the same thing except for control the very weather which is why I said "to some extent".

And really si far, what benefits did the cold weather give him?

 

[Scorps]

I'm personally going for that either Gray or Juvia hurts him or herself to save the other. My initial thought was that it was going to be Juvia, but maybe Hiro surprises me.



Actually no there is a fundamental difference there. The only thing Gray can do, is create static objects out of ice. Lyon on the other hand can only create dynamic objects made out of ice. Hence why Gray primarily makes stuff like shields, spears, swords and hammers while Lyon makes birds, apes and other animals. Their abilities are restricted to that and neither of them can suddenly create a frost environment.

If I would define Invel's ability, it would be something like cold temperature control? Ice is the result of water being in an environment with a temperature below 0°. Gray and Lyon bypass that by creating the ice directly, but that doesn't take away that most of the environments they make it in, isn't really suited for their ice. However if you can manipulate the environment into a cold one, by extension you can control all forms of ice within that environment. The latter flows out of the former, but the opposite is not true (or in the least barely efficient). So yeah that would make Invel's magic the essence of all ice magic.

Now I don't know if this is exactly was what Hiro was envisioning as he doesn't really have a good track record in regards to explaining stuff like this properly, but it remains very well true that a subtle distinction can be made, so these are not just random words to make him special.

Hiro does a bad thing on the "why" of things. And in terms of the power scale, he often simply forgets power levels and continuity for whatever he feels suits that given arc. This "illogical" aspect of FT is in a way what makes it also refreshing as a manga. For example, in Bleach, you'd never have an enemy grab ichigo and take him away while ichigo simply laughed comedically. FT is special in that.

Still I would like Hiro to step it up a bit in terms of seriousness for this arc as it does seem the final arc of the manga. Erza vs her Mom. Mavis/Natsu vs Zeref. Gray Vs Natsu at some point. Acnologia into the midst. All big parts of FTverse are involved in this arc so it has to be the big finale. Taking that into consideration, I hoped Hiro would make it a bit more...interesting, paced and serious. I don't want FT to win based on simple talk no jutsu. I want them to barely win at great cost while displaying amazing abilities as well as facing their oponents amazing abilities. I want it to be memorable. A bit more serious. A bit more contorlled and logical. More paced. Slightly darker. I know fairly well this isn't Hiro's style but for this arc, I feel the characters and the manga deserved as much.

Invel's ability is Freeze. Gray and Lyon and Ur is Ice Magic. By default, both things are different. Freezing is removing energy from molecules to the point of making them stop moving or reducing thier movement a lot. This in turn solidifies every form of matter which as a result reduces its temperature (temperature = energy). Its different from using the moisture in the air to create objects and entities made of ice. I won't deny there is some relationship between both, but they are different in their nature.

 

[Caliburn]

Gray isn't restricted to creating objects, he can also

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his surroundings tho. Sliver also did the same thing except for control the very weather which is why I said "to some extent".

And really si far, what benefits did the cold weather give him?

First and for all he, and Silver, did that when they were using Ice Devil slaying magic and that's something special and in a league of its own, something Invel explained likewise in this chapter. Most likely because it's a hybrid form of magic as it's both ice and devil-based magic. So that's pretty much an irrelevant argument.

Secondly there is a difference between locking someone in ice and freezing someone directly.

Thirdly what benefits could being able to control the temperature have? Well, I don't know, freezing everything instantaneously? Almost every substance in the world has a freezing point, whether it be a gas, liquid or a solid. Ice is nothing more than water that got frozen because the temperature dropped below 0° resulting in the molecules slowing down. Now if you control the temperature, you can freeze pretty much anything, not just water. Now taking into consideration that this is a form of magic used by an extremely powerful mage, potential results are freezing all the water vapor in the air, freezing the blood in your body, even freezing the oxygen that you breath in into your lungs and all of this in an instant. So yeah there's quite a difference between all of this and creating an ice-hammer just to crush someone.

 

[Memento Mori]

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First and for all he, and Silver, did that when they were using Ice Devil slaying magic and that's something special and in a league of its own, something Invel explained likewise in this chapter. Most likely because it's a hybrid form of magic as it's both ice and devil-based magic. So that's pretty much an irrelevant argument.

Secondly there is a difference between locking someone in ice and freezing someone directly.

Thirdly what benefits could being able to control the temperature have? Well, I don't know, freezing everything instantaneously? Almost every substance in the world has a freezing point, whether it be a gas, liquid or a solid. Ice is nothing more than water that got frozen because the temperature dropped below 0° resulting in the molecules slowing down. Now if you control the temperature, you can freeze pretty much anything, not just water. Now taking into consideration that this is a form of magic used by an extremely powerful mage, potential results are freezing all the water vapor in the air, freezing the blood in your body, even freezing the oxygen that you breath in into your lungs and all of this in an instant. So yeah there's quite a difference between all of this and creating an ice-hammer just to crush someone.

I do remember once a while you, me & Scorps talking about 'God Ankhseram'.............You mentioned something along these lines>>>Zeref's Ankhseram's black magic was due to Zeref triggering his darkness in him and they manifested from his heart<<<<<something along those lines. I have read the CR version of this chapter. And notice it..........

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Hiro does a bad thing on the "why" of things. And in terms of the power scale, he often simply forgets power levels and continuity for whatever he feels suits that given arc. This "illogical" aspect of FT is in a way what makes it also refreshing as a manga. For example, in Bleach, you'd never have an enemy grab ichigo and take him away while ichigo simply laughed comedically. FT is special in that.

Still I would like Hiro to step it up a bit in terms of seriousness for this arc as it does seem the final arc of the manga. Erza vs her Mom. Mavis/Natsu vs Zeref. Gray Vs Natsu at some point. Acnologia into the midst. All big parts of FTverse are involved in this arc so it has to be the big finale. Taking that into consideration, I hoped Hiro would make it a bit more...interesting, paced and serious. I don't want FT to win based on simple talk no jutsu. I want them to barely win at great cost while displaying amazing abilities as well as facing their oponents amazing abilities. I want it to be memorable. A bit more serious. A bit more contorlled and logical. More paced. Slightly darker. I know fairly well this isn't Hiro's style but for this arc, I feel the characters and the manga deserved as much.

Invel's ability is Freeze. Gray and Lyon and Ur is Ice Magic. By default, both things are different. Freezing is removing energy from molecules to the point of making them stop moving or reducing thier movement a lot. This in turn solidifies every form of matter which as a result reduces its temperature (temperature = energy). Its different from using the moisture in the air to create objects and entities made of ice. I won't deny there is some relationship between both, but they are different in their nature.

Well.....Mashima made Tartarus a dark by FT standards. And he received a helluva complaints from fans which made him resort to say that he will write the next arc on the 'theme of hope'. So....I doubt Mashima would do it again after all this time. But have to wait and see.

Erza Vs her Mom?. Did I miss something?. When did that happen?

 

[Scorps]

It hasn't happened but in the same way we knew that Invel, the ice magic from Zeref's side, would be the one to face Gray, we can also clearly predict that Erza will be the one to fight off her mother. Also, the strongest mage of FT fighting what is said to be the strongest mage of the 10 saints was also somewhat predictable. There are matchups which aren't clear but each will have its own. Thats a given.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Why there's always some ice mage in enemy team?? and always get rekt by gray's emotion no jutsu???

Well.....Mashima made Tartarus a dark by FT standards. And he received a helluva complaints from fans which made him resort to say that he will write the next arc on the 'theme of hope'. So....I doubt Mashima would do it again after all this time. But have to wait and see.

Erza Vs her Mom?. Did I miss something?. When did that happen?

Tartarus was Dark????????? WHAT????