[Discussion] Fairy Tail is poorly written.

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Well, I can't really say that much about this, since I just started watching(Haven't read the manga yet), and I'm only on like episode 87. It's not that bad at all for me, but the only thing that can get annoying is the 'power of hope' thing that they keep doing, and Natsu becoming stronger through his friends or whatever kind of message they are trying to say.

Regardless, this manga is keeping me occupied and interested, and the main character is a lot more likeable than that moron Naruto, so that's a plus. The characters also seem to be well created, and this verse has a variety of different things to show. It almost reminds me of One Piece and it's verse.

This manga seems to be bashed a lot, and in a way, if you are only trying to watch or read a story for hardcore action, then I guess this type of manga is not for you, but I also like humor and creativity, and that's one of the reasons why this Fairy Tail thing is looking like a win for me.

P.S. Jellal FTW baby
 

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Something like meh, instead of people just trying to find similarity between two mangas (but in more than half of their post, similarity even don't exist) they should look deeper in character, his personality, than they will understand things.

Now, I'm going to use your logic, because I do, now I agree that FT is rip off, using that same logic, I realized that OP is also a rip off:

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Not gonna lie though, When I first saw Gildarts, I was like, "wtf is that Shanks?" but then I realized that I was watching Fairy Tail lol
 
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This thread somehow went from being FT is poorly written to Ft is a ripoff of OP... i could argue that 90% shonen manga are rip-off of DB series, seriously, you don't like it, we get it, it isn't the best, we get it, but what you're doing right now is spouting BS, the only legitimate similarity/ripoff between FT and OP is Shanks and Gildarts, all other claim are BS, y'all are just trying to hard

OP: It isn't that good but it's alright, it's not serious and mainly just an easy going manga, sure if you started off with the anime you might not like it
 

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Oh Nice!.Tale.I will not make new ones.Here are some great posts below.





Nothing personal.Just quoting the pictures as I have already taken out the names of the person who posted them.

It is ridiculous to see how People are calling FT as rip off of One Piece Manga/Anime & Naruto when in reality it is not.They are just a mere anime Coincidence & nothing more or to say a just an inspiration for a mangaka from another mangaka like many inspired a lot from Akira toriyama.By using this same flawed logic I can list as many as rip offs saying Naruto is a rip off of Hunter x Hunter,Cowboy bebop,DBZ;,OP is a rip off of Disney & other verses........**Endless it goes on** as long as I use the same logic as you.


Knowing Hiro Mashima is kicking well & doing some great work for us in the form of FT in his Studio & didn't got any notice of stealing some one's work,FT is not a Rip off of OP.

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The member on left side of the image laid on the ground where as on the three people are hanging on to the tree...heck it is not even a coincidence.Scan - Failed

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It is a utter fail.No need to say a onething...It is neither coincident nor are there any resemblance.It is just ridiculous

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No resemblance to each of their head quarters U_U.Another Fail

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By your logic it is certainly a rip off & many animes have a scenes of those types.Yes,By your logic all are Rip offs.It is your choice to say from which anime are those rip offs Lol . But in truth it is just a anime coincidence,meaning it is not a rip off & another Fail

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What?The front doors exploded and got boom'd & enemies thrown away???..Really you think a scan like that prove that FT is a rip off of OP??I recall many animes has that same scenario,I am not even bothering to recall those...Another Fail

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Read above ^^

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Not much of a similarity aside from each carrying their own books to read.I do say it is just a Coincidence.By that logic everyone carrying a book is a rip off of one another.

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Lol....Say what?Both are two different ones & are different personality's....here also no similarity

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It is stupid to talk about this scan.....Scan itself dis agreed.

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What having Snakes around them makes those two similar characters? Flawed Logic

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It is more of a coincidence than a Inspiration as this type of similar characters are made in 90's,more around before even Oda created it.So it proved nothing

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This is definetly an inspiration that Hiro took from Oda to create his own character,namely,Gildarts from Shanks or so I assume.They resembles each other a lot & I even debated on Shanks VS Gildarts & I got proved that Shanks is the inspiration for Gildarts U_U.

Finally this entire rip off is a fail arguement & proves nothing

People Need to realize that there aren't any manga/Anime that out there that are actual line to line rip off's of another manga as they are claiming with stupid logic just because of their hate towards other manga/Anime.Many Mangaka's of present era are got inspired a lot from Akira Toriyama a legend from 80's and as the time passes on sure other mangaka's (who created best of it) will stand as inspiration for next generation and so on.
A Mangaka getting inspiration from a another mangaka's work is not a Rip Off thing
You can call fail fail fail all you want, But you're not looking at it correctly.

For one you're comparing individual images. But Luffy and Natsu kicking down the door is one scene. So it's wounded comrade on the ground, main char pissed off, party going on inside, kick down the door, silhouettes in smoke. If you look at them one by one you could say they don't look a like that much but if there is an entire segment it's pretty much copy paste. However this is not Hiro;s fault, the anime company did that (no idea who does FT Studio Pierrot or Toei maybe ?)

Same goes for the water scene with Mavis, It's too much of a coincidence that even all the angles used to show an emerging sphere from the water with someone standing on the surface to be called original.

As for the 'separate' characters, they belong in one group, How much of a coincedence is it that you have pointy hair with sunglasses guy, snake person, leopard skin, bible giant etc all in one group.

Don't compare them one on one, look at the big picture. Of course Hiro isn't making identical copies, but he is at least heavily inspired.
 

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You can call fail fail fail all you want, But you're not looking at it correctly.

For one you're comparing individual images. But Luffy and Natsu kicking down the door is one scene. So it's wounded comrade on the ground, main char pissed off, party going on inside, kick down the door, silhouettes in smoke. If you look at them one by one you could say they don't look a like that much but if there is an entire segment it's pretty much copy paste. However this is not Hiro;s fault, the anime company did that (no idea who does FT Studio Pierrot or Toei maybe ?)

Same goes for the water scene with Mavis, It's too much of a coincidence that even all the angles used to show an emerging sphere from the water with someone standing on the surface to be called original.

As for the 'separate' characters, they belong in one group, How much of a coincedence is it that you have pointy hair with sunglasses guy, snake person, leopard skin, bible giant etc all in one group.

Don't compare them one on one, look at the big picture. Of course Hiro isn't making identical copies, but he is at least heavily inspired.
Those scans are a fail,so I called it.Then how should I look at it ? Look it at the way how the people who are calling it a rip off ?

So far not just only Luffy & Natsu kicked down the door in manga history or only them ?.Ofcourse they are parties or everything else but still one cannot simply claim that is a rip off based on just that.I have yet to see a copy paste.Eventhough there are some similarities there are some minor or major variations in the depiction.For One Piece it is TOEI and For FT it is A1 Animations.Is that also known as studio Pierrot ?.

Who called that is an original ?.It is not like One Piece or Fairy Tail are the only animes with those water scenes.But people tend to make a nonsense about it.

So what is that if it isn't neither a co-incidence nor inspiration ?.So Hiro ripped off that ?.First of all if he did that then is there a proof to it that from what Hiro ripped off isn't a rip off of other one ?.No we don't.I will stick to it more like an inspiration or their love towards other series just like what Oda said about the accusations he faced off for being copying Tim burton or kawanabe.Oda said that it is his love for other series and he inspired a lot from other verses,cultures and also using references from histories/legends.so apparently why don't that be the case for hiro too ?.Also Hiro does use most of his references from the real life stories and from some of the games.We can call all of them a rip off or copy paste if one use the same logic and there will not be anything original(on large scale).

They are intended to be posted one on one with little to no clue whoever made those scans.Even if we look at the big picture the storyboard is completely different to begin with.Having similar characters isn't a rip off.By that logic as I have said already we can pretty much create pics like that.For that all we need is finding those similar pics and joining them.Those similar characters are in one group and their storyboards are different.And also those characters names,designs and some of their powers came from the references Oda used from some mythology,Novel,Verses etc..,That aren't any original to begin with.Anything further is pointless from here on.

@Bold,that is what I want to say too just like how majority of the mangaka's till now.
Gotta go now.
 

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Meh... It's nothing special. Just a happy-go-lucky protagonist going around with his gang beating bad guys and doing quests. It's not something from what you expect mind-blowing plot twists or plain logic.

I watch it because my friend likes it so I checked it out and sticked around just to kill some time with it. It's enjoyable when you're not nitpicky.
 

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Shanks misses an arm, Gildarts also misses an arm which has been replaced with prosthetic arm + They look the same.

None of these are rip-offs. Try harder. A Rip-off is a carbon copy, not something that shares similarities. If one person comes up with an idea, then another takes the same idea and improves upon it or alters it to suit their own needs doesn't mean the new idea that has stemmed from a previous idea is a rip-off.

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You can call fail fail fail all you want, But you're not looking at it correctly.

For one you're comparing individual images. But Luffy and Natsu kicking down the door is one scene. So it's wounded comrade on the ground, main char pissed off, party going on inside, kick down the door, silhouettes in smoke. If you look at them one by one you could say they don't look a like that much but if there is an entire segment it's pretty much copy paste. However this is not Hiro;s fault, the anime company did that (no idea who does FT Studio Pierrot or Toei maybe ?)

Same goes for the water scene with Mavis, It's too much of a coincidence that even all the angles used to show an emerging sphere from the water with someone standing on the surface to be called original.

As for the 'separate' characters, they belong in one group, How much of a coincedence is it that you have pointy hair with sunglasses guy, snake person, leopard skin, bible giant etc all in one group.

Don't compare them one on one, look at the big picture. Of course Hiro isn't making identical copies, but he is at least heavily inspired.

As I have stated previously, everything stems from something else. All Mangaka have looked to other Mangaka's for inspiration. Using another's idea as inspiration for your own idea is a commonly recurring theme in their line of work. It's hard to come up with something that is truly unique. If you think you've thought of something that is unique, think again. I can guarantee you that there will always be someone else out there who has likely thought of the same thing or something very close to it.

Natsu, Goku, Gohan, Luffy, Naruto - All these characters eat a lot, are powerful, have loved ones they would go to great lengths to protect, and so on. Does this mean they are all carbon copies of each other? No. What it means is that it's a commonly recurring theme that is used often. It's much like having a female character be violent towards the male lead for either no reason or because she's a Tsundere. Both of these are frequently used in Anime, but the characters themselves still have something that separates them from having the same personality.

The idea of having a king under the sea? Look at Disney's King Triton. Does that make King Neptune from One Piece a carbon copy of him? No. Stop trying to make out FT rips off other manga. If you're going to call one thing a rip-off then say something else isn't a rip-off even though it shares the same themes, you're being hypocritical and biased and you shouldn't even be posting until you learn how to use that thing inside your head that we like to call a "Brain".

If it's not a carbon copy, then it's not a rip-off. A lot of characters share a lot of personality traits, but they're not all copies of each other because they all have something different from each other. Natsu is impulsive, Naruto has shown that he can be rash and impulsive in a fight but can also calmly assess a situation, Goku just loves to fight, Luffy's goal is to become King of the Pirates but he has faith in his friends abilities. He knows that they can handle themselves. They're all different from each other. Thus meaning they aren't rip-offs. If Dragons were rip-offs of Tailed Beasts, then Tailed Beasts would be a rip-off of Demons from InuYasha or something else from some other anime.

If you're going to use flawed logic, do a better job at hiding it. If I had to guess, I'd say you don't watch much anime aside from the mainstream anime and think that your favourite tops all because it's the original work and wasn't copied from anything else. Newsflash, inspiration for Naruto came from another character [Insert shocked expression here] from, you guessed it, another manga. Inspiration is not the same thing as copying.
 
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well the art style is pretty same in both mangas, but it doesnt necessarily means its a rip off, inspiration is a better word, and oda is a senior mangaka and more successful, taking inspiratin from him is no big crime
 

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So I started watching Fairy Tail because I wanted to see what's behind that hype.
And there is something I noticed.

The Fights:
All the fights against main villains are starting like this:
- Villain is stronger and beats the shit out of (in this case) Natsu.
-Natsu is about to lose but then either gets a power up because of friendship or someone is boosting his power.
- Natsu one shots the villain.

The Plot:
So that Guy Gerard of whatever his name was tried to revive someone who spoke to him and he thought it was Zeref. But Zeref was alive the whole time. The R-system failed and that mystery person was never mentioned again. Yet it is sad because he or she seemed to be a threat.

Natsu being a rival of Gray just doesn't make sense, Natsu stomps the living shit out of Gray, so that's a poor attempt on creating rivality to the series at this point.

Nerfed Characters:
The older sister of Elfman what was her name again? Confirmed City Buster Lvl yet gets raped by all villains.

Conclusion: I don't like fairy tail. Neither the Plot or the Characters. The only thing that was interesting was why all Dragons got lost.
Your mother is poorly written, *****.

jokes aside. Kinda. Still entertaining nonetheless.
 

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So I started watching Fairy Tail because I wanted to see what's behind that hype.
And there is something I noticed.

The Fights:
All the fights against main villains are starting like this:
- Villain is stronger and beats the shit out of (in this case) Natsu.
-Natsu is about to lose but then either gets a power up because of friendship or someone is boosting his power.
- Natsu one shots the villain.

The Plot:
So that Guy Gerard of whatever his name was tried to revive someone who spoke to him and he thought it was Zeref. But Zeref was alive the whole time. The R-system failed and that mystery person was never mentioned again. Yet it is sad because he or she seemed to be a threat.

Natsu being a rival of Gray just doesn't make sense, Natsu stomps the living shit out of Gray,
so that's a poor attempt on creating rivality to the series at this point.

Nerfed Characters:
The older sister of Elfman what was her name again? Confirmed City Buster Lvl yet gets raped by all villains.

Conclusion: I don't like fairy tail. Neither the Plot or the Characters. The only thing that was interesting was why all Dragons got lost.
:lmao:
 

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All I will say is this:

1. The critics love it.

2. The manga is still making new chapters after over 400 chapters, meaning its selling well.

3. It has an anime, video games, toys, and movies being made based off of it.

If this is considered bad writing, then I want to do bad writing.
 

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So I started watching Fairy Tail because I wanted to see what's behind that hype.
And there is something I noticed.

The Fights:
All the fights against main villains are starting like this:
- Villain is stronger and beats the shit out of (in this case) Natsu.
-Natsu is about to lose but then either gets a power up because of friendship or someone is boosting his power.
- Natsu one shots the villain.

The Plot:
So that Guy Gerard of whatever his name was tried to revive someone who spoke to him and he thought it was Zeref. But Zeref was alive the whole time. The R-system failed and that mystery person was never mentioned again. Yet it is sad because he or she seemed to be a threat.

Natsu being a rival of Gray just doesn't make sense, Natsu stomps the living shit out of Gray, so that's a poor attempt on creating rivality to the series at this point.

Nerfed Characters:
The older sister of Elfman what was her name again? Confirmed City Buster Lvl yet gets raped by all villains.

Conclusion: I don't like fairy tail. Neither the Plot or the Characters. The only thing that was interesting was why all Dragons got lost.
My poor Mira should of got a new form during tartarus but ended up getting stomped and being Erza's cheerleader. :T_T:

For the ripoff part, I'd say Hiro gets inspired by other mangas...a little too much XD

The plot I completely agree

I dont get hyped for their fights anymore cause the outcome is so freaking clear

No hype for Zeref or Acno or new continent cause you know villains in this show :bdpf:

Still FT is one of my Top/Hated mangas/anime



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