Facts Surrounding Sakura.

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Speed [blitzing madara/Orochiamaru], medical feats [healing Lee/Sasuke, Naruto's arm], stamina [Uzumkai/Sneju DNA], durability [tanked heavenly transfer w/ minor cuts] and Taijutsu [against Orochimaru and Kabuto, and also Madara].
Sakura compete's..

Speed [blitzing madara/Orochiamaru]
Sakura mangaed to position herself in front of Chiyo in attempt to prevent Sasori from stabbing her.
Sakura was at a significant distance from the both of them but managed to cover that distance in a very short amount of time.

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Sakura entered Kaguya's blind spot almost instantly (blitzed) and dealt a blow.

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medical feats [healing Lee/Sasuke, Naruto's arm]
Medical wise she absolutely ahead of Sakura but not by a significant amount, the manga is flooded with evidence that Sakura would be more then capable of helping Tsunade construct prosthetic limbs consisting of Hashi's cell's. Since she has interpreted and handle his genetic material before.

durability [tanked heavenly transfer w/ minor cuts]
Won't disagree but Sakura would absolutely be able to tank tanked heavenly transfer tech with her seal, nothing suggest her seal is inferior. And by the way, why would recovering from minor cut be a problem for her when she not only regenerated but used mystical palm with any hand seal.

Taijutsu [against Orochimaru and Kabuto, and also Madara].
No argument her and the Taijutsu feats she does have aren't similar.

Also Sakura has the greater destructive power.
 

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Cool beans, minor cuts wouldn't have made difference. Not to mention this logic doesn't work at all.

Biggest contributors to the war are Naruto, Sasuke, Itachi, Hagoromo, Kakashi, Hashirama, Minato, Tobirama, and Orochimaru.

That's not part of the war. Lol
Alright then.

@Orochimaru. roflll omg.
 

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Oh and btw she didn't knock kaguya senseless .

Learn its deffinition first please :)
Senseless - (especially of violent or wasteful action) without discernible meaning or purpose.

Do you see how discombobulated Kaguya was after getting hit? She wasn't ready for that and nothing would've prepared her for it. She defiantly got knocked senseless..

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Sakura mangaed to position herself in front of Chiyo in attempt to prevent Sasori from stabbing her.
Sakura was at a significant distance from the both of them but managed to cover that distance in a very short amount of time.

Sakura entered Kaguya's blind spot almost instantly (blitzed) and dealt a blow.
That speed still isn't as good as Tsunade's. Blitzing Madara with a kick? Impressive. Taking a sword to the chest from Sasori? Not as much.

Also, entering Kaguya's Byakugan blindspot? That's BS, as a kunai alone can barely fit into that blind spot.

Medical wise she absolutely ahead of Sakura but not by a significant amount, the manga is flooded with evidence that Sakura would be more then capable of helping Tsunade construct prosthetic limbs consisting of Hashi's cell's. Since she has interpreted and handle his genetic material before.
It's possible, but hasn't been shown. Overall, Tsuande's medical feats are superior. She fixed Lee's bones, Kakashi and Sasuke's mental trauma's from Itachi's Tsukyomi, created the Body derangement tech and Yin seal [admittedly, the latter was retconned], created Naruto's arm and assisted in saving the Sasuke retrieval team.

Won't disagree but Sakura would absolutely be able to tank tanked heavenly transfer tech with her seal, nothing suggest her seal is inferior. And by the way, why would recovering from minor cut be a problem for her when she not only regenerated but used mystical palm with any hand seal.
Tsunade wasn't using the seal when the transfer was happening, she did so afterwards. so it was her natural durability that tanked it. Sakura's durability can't compare.

No argument her and the Taijutsu feats she does have aren't similar.
So you agree Tsunade's taijutsu is better ? Good.

Also Sakura has the greater destructive power.
Not according to Hashirama :rolleyes:
 
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That speed still isn't as good as Tsunade's. Blitzing Madara with a kick? Impressive. Taking a sword to the chest from Sasori? Not as much.
Again I never said Sakura was faster I said she competes.

Taking a sword to the chest from Sasori? Not as much.
Once again, like you I wont nitpick Sakura has shown regenration feat's just like Tsunades has. Period!

Also, entering Kaguya's Byakugan blindspot? That's BS, as a kunai alone can barely fit into that blind spot.
So if she didn't enter a blind spot then was Sakura to fast for Kaguya's dojutsu?

when the transfer Tsunade wasn't using the seal was happening, she did so afterwards. so it was her natural durability that tanked it. Sakura's durability can't compare.
@bold: the manga doesn't suggest that because of Tsunades bloodline she survived the trip but it does support the conclusion that the Yin seal can dismiss the damage a small with it's release. And we can you can say Tsunade is inherently more durable but we can defiantly but Sakura in similar positions and debate of she can bounce back.

So you agree Tsunade's taijutsu is better ? Good.
It is a tad but better but Sakura can keep up.

Not according to Hashirama :rolleyes:
Tsunade hasn't caused the amount of damage Sakura has with only her fist.
 

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how did contribute to the war tho? =]. He just summoned them for sasuke, not for war. And then found out he can't control the first. ;]
I don't know, maybe the fact that he summoned Minato, who saved the alliance multiple times from getting nuked , who saved Naruto's life, and who along with Tobirama [another one of Orochimaru's summons] were huge contributing factors in taking down Juubito. Lol

Maybe its' the fact that he summoned Hiruzen, who saved Naruto from death, who figured out Obito's abilities, and who defended the alliance from Guruguru.

Maybe it's the fact that he summoned Tobirama, who greatly helped in the battle with Juubito, who helped save the alliance multiple times, and who saved and assisted Naruto & Sasuke several times.

Doesn't matter if he can't control Hashirama, he still could have undid the Edo Tensei right then and there, effectively killing Hashirama. You need to understand that Hashirama wasn't out of the grasp of Orochimaru's edo tensei, just that Orochimaru couldn't control him. In other words, Hashirama could move at will, but Orochimaru would still be able to release his soul if he chooses to do so. So yeah, all the hokages, including Hashirama, could not have done what they did had it not been for Orochimaru's will.

So yes, ultimately, he contributed heavily to the war.

Again I never said Sakura was faster I said she competes.
Fair enough.

So if she didn't enter a blind spot then was Sakura to fast for Kaguya's dojutsu?
With plot, anything is possible. But if I were to give a more logical answer, it would be that Sakura used Kaguya's upward ascension and the work of gravity to give herself an edge, along with Sasuke and Naruto scaring and distracting her.

But yeah, in the end, I can honestly say Sakura landing a punch on Kaguya from behind is arguably one of the most plot-influenced moments in the manga, as Kaguya had multiple counters to that.

@bold: the manga doesn't suggest that because of Tsunades bloodline she survived the trip but it does support the conclusion that the Yin seal can dismiss the damage a small with it's release. And we can you can say Tsunade is inherently more durable but we can defiantly but Sakura in similar positions and debate of she can bounce back.
No, it was outright shown she was releasing the seal AFTER the trip

It is a tad but better but Sakura can keep up.
Disagree, Tsunade had already shown better taijutsu skills in her fight in part 1 against Oro and Kabuto. Then came the third databook, which had her rank 5 in taijutsu while Sakura scored a 3.

Afterwards, however, Sakura has not displayed any sort of improvement in her taijutsu skills for one to assume her taijutsu has improved since then, at least nothing too significant. Meanwhile, Tsuande showed considerably superior taijutsu feats in her fight against Madara. So no, I heavily disagree with the notion that Sakura is slightly below Tsunade.

Tsunade hasn't caused the amount of damage Sakura has with only her fist.
And yet Hashirama compared a Seal-less Tsuande's power to a Yin Seal Sakura's power. That should tell you all you need to know.
 
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With plot, anything is possible. But if I were to give a more logical answer, it would be that Sakura used Kaguya's upward ascension and the work of gravity to give herself an edge, along with Sasuke and Naruto scaring and distracting her.

But yeah, in the end, I can honestly say Sakura landing a punch on Kaguya from behind is arguably one of the most plot-influenced moments in the manga, as Kaguya had multiple counters to that.
This is were we come to a draw XD

No, it was outright shown she was releasing the seal AFTER the trip
What was shown? Tsunade preforming creation rebirth? What are you getting at?

Disagree, Tsunade had already shown better taijutsu skills in her fight in part 1 against Oro and Kabuto. Then came the third databook, which had her rank 5 in taijutsu while Sakura scored a 3.

Afterwards, however, Sakura has not displayed any sort of improvement in her taijutsu skills for one to assume her taijutsu has improved since then, at least nothing too significant. Meanwhile, Tsuande showed considerably superior taijutsu feats in her fight against Madara. So no, I heavily disagree with the notion that Sakura is slightly below Tsunade.
Post the scans of Tsunade preforming this taijutsu against Madara because I remember her throwing a punches and kick no 1v.1 situations.

And yet Hashirama compared a Seal-less Tsuande's power to a Yin Seal Sakura's power. That should tell you all you need to know.
It say's that he hasn't the position to compare the destructive of effects of their strength.

Because I can use manga facts that support Sakura's fist being more deadly and destructive.

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Feat wise Sakura > Tsunade in strength.
 
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