Fact is that if obito...

[The Necromancer]

He broke it because Minato disturbed the control by cutting his other arm. Now, with Madara controlling him, PS summoned and slices him to dead meat.

The fact that Madara didn't try even slightly until obito had one foot in the grave suggests otherwise. Madara even asked Obito nicely to revive him. Why try if he can just force him at any moment?

 

[garas56]

Pousible he wuldnt even Opened Ms....

 

[AlphaScythian]

In all honesty, I don't see how anyone can beat Kabuto. But Madara gets beaten by double Ms Obito if plot isn't involved. However, Kabuto + Edo army... He's a god. How can Obito deal with that?

S/T blitz could work, even if he has Edo army around him. That army is not that sharp on its own.

 

[Bronze]

The fact that Madara didn't try even slightly until obito had one foot in the grave suggests otherwise.

...Or because Madara sensed Hashirama's chakra and decided to take of Obito after he beats Hashirama [

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[obito uchiha the wraith]

In all honesty, I don't see how anyone can beat Kabuto. But Madara gets beaten by double Ms Obito if plot isn't involved. However, Kabuto + Edo army... He's a god. How can Obito deal with that?

Obito would solo it thats how. And what about orochimarus super hokage squad? Only notables from kabuto is maddy, itachi, and nagato. The other kages get solod by hashi alone as well as the akatsuki and no name fodders.

 

[Darth Vader]

S/T blitz could work, even if he has Edo army around him. That army is not that sharp on its own.

Let's also consider Sage Mode and the abilities of the Sound 4.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

...Or because Madara sensed Hashirama's chakra and decided to take of Obito after he beats Hashirama [

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Pretty sure hashi wasn't revived until juubi reached its plant mouth form.

 

[The Necromancer]

...Or because Madara sensed Hashirama's chakra and decided to take of Obito after he beats Hashirama [

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Please. Madara stood alongside obito for 10+ chapters before Hashi was even revived. With the Juubi revived and Hashi dead there was no reason not to cast Rinne Tensei on himself at that point. He was in a much more secure position than in the last 2 chapters.

 

[Oblivionx]

huh! then he wouldn't have had kamui...! XD

 

[Darth Vader]

Obito would solo it thats how. And what about orochimarus super hokage squad? Only notables from kabuto is maddy, itachi, and nagato. The other kages get solod by hashi alone as well as the akatsuki and no name fodders.

Lol what? He would solo it, no explanation? That makes a lot of sense. Come back when you come up with a legit counter.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Let's also consider Sage Mode and the abilities of the Sound 4.

Edo sound four is filler. Sage mode gets one shotted by kakashis kamui as it was powerful enough to warp full body hachibi.

 

[Namikun]

True that. U_U Y'all are lucky.

 

[Bronze]

Pretty sure hashi wasn't revived until juubi reached its plant mouth form.

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Please. Madara stood alongside obito for 10+ chapters before Hashi was even revived. With the Juubi revived and Hashi dead there was no reason not to cast Rinne Tensei on himself at that point. He was in a much more secure position than in the last 2 chapters.

Madara was not expecting Obito's attitude which noticed in chapter 14/15, and Hashirama was revived in chapter 19. Madara wanted to simply make Obito feel that he will go by his words.

And lets say, no...this doesn't change the fact Madara can beat Obito with either black rod or not.

 

[AlphaScythian]

He needs amaterasu and tsukoyomi for that :l
And why would 2 eyes make him faster...

Bold isnt entirely true if at all. Sasuke said you just need 2 eyes with awakened powers to get the 3td one.
2 eyes wouldnt make him faster but he has kamui and it would affect susanoo, therefore S/T susanoo

 

[Darth Vader]

Edo sound four is filler. Sage mode gets one shotted by kakashis kamui as it was powerful enough to warp full body hachibi.

Kabuto having sound 4 abilities plus Hozuki's techs isn't.

 

[Darth Vader]

Bold isnt entirely true if at all. Sasuke said you just need 2 eyes with awakened powers to get the 3td one.
2 eyes wouldnt make him faster but he has kamui and it would affect susanoo, therefore S/T susanoo

There is no certainty that he would have Susano'o. Izumi wasn't shown to have it, nor was Shisui.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Kabuto having sound 4 abilities plus Hozuki's techs isn't.

Sound four is fodder tayuyas genjutsu won't work if obito warps away his ears. Hozuki liquefication is meaningless if he gets warped to another dimension.

 

[Gucci45]

Double MS Obito is unstoppable. Don't get me started on single MS obito.

This^^^ Obito is pretty much OP the way he is

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

No [

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Madara was not expecting Obito's attitude which noticed in chapter 14/15, and Hashirama was revived in chapter 19. Madara wanted to simply make Obito feel that he will go by his words.

And lets say, no...this doesn't change the fact Madara can beat Obito with either black rod or not.

Madaras counter to kamui?

 

[Clouds]

Bold isnt entirely true if at all. Sasuke said you just need 2 eyes with awakened powers to get the 3td one.
2 eyes wouldnt make him faster but he has kamui and it would affect susanoo, therefore S/T susanoo

The databook says otherwise :l