Facebook Sparks Outrage Over Steven Spielberg Poaching A Triceratops

[Cornson]

Our society is slowly dying

it's not, it's just the average intelligence level that is dropping... which is worse -.-'

 

[Taco King]

I hate animal killing and long live PETA!!!111!!!eleven!! Can I have another hot wing, mom?

 

[Aim64C]

*sigh*

Common Core.

Kids are too busy learning which bubble to color in to actually learn anything.

Edit: When the shares exceed the comments - you know the comments section is going to be -good-.

 

[ultraChalk]

I'm... actually speechless.

 

[Avani]

I really hate people like this.

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Sad fact is she probably still did more to save them than most of us.

Those animals were legally allowed kills(The villagers are too impoverished to leave the animals alone. They would encroach in the places reserved for these animals , and they kill them and eat them. Yea even tigers, elephants etc. They eat it all up and you can find the clippings of how they hunt these animals.) The money often goes to upkeep of the reserves for the rest. They chose which animals they can spare.

Some were so called "green kills"- where they just use tranquillizer guns. They chose the animals needing medical aid and instead of Vet taking the shot they let the "hunter" have that fun. The animal is tracked when he gets unconscious and treated. The hunters get the fun of taking the shot and taking a trophy snap. The money he gives enables the sponsorship for the vets and the others in the team in treating those animals.

Worse is half the haters if given a chance or that kind of money to spare will get that trophy snap with the animal. You can bet on it.

 

[-PK-]

Sad fact is she probably still did more to save them than most of us.

Those animals were legally allowed kills(The villagers are too impoverished to leave the animals alone. They would encroach in the places reserved for these animals , and they kill them and eat them. Yea even tigers, elephants etc. They eat it all up and you can find the clippings of how they hunt these animals.) The money often goes to upkeep of the reserves for the rest. They chose which animals they can spare.

Some were so called "green kills"- where they just use tranquillizer guns. They chose the animals needing medical aid and instead of Vet taking the shot they let the "hunter" have that fun. The animal is tracked when he gets unconscious and treated. The hunters get the fun of taking the shot and taking a trophy snap. The money he gives enables the sponsorship for the vets and the others in the team in treating those animals.

Worse is half the haters if given a chance or that kind of money to spare will get that trophy snap with the animal. You can bet on it.

I googled about all this.
You could be right.
But I am not completely convinced by her arguments though. Could be all lies just to protect her image.
I also read that she wants to have her own TV hunting show. :/

 

[Avani]

I googled about all this.
You could be right.
But I am not completely convinced by her arguments though. Could be all lies just to protect her image.
I also read that she wants to have her own TV hunting show. :/

I only believe her on the count that the trophies she collected were acquired legally and that she is not as vile as the internet made her look in past few weeks. Uploading after poaching will be just on another plane of stupidity. And as for the show, there are already shows like that.


She is repeating the same thing those hunting safari hunting package offering countries say or organizers of these tours claim. These organizers are not 100% lying- the money they spend is often used for conservation by the locals and the governments at least partly( I guess). But it's business for most of them. Some may be also interested in genuine conservation and may even work for it but they would be very few. If she turns into a conservationist good for her. Otherwise whatever. She is just on among many.

Same for the hunters. Most of these tourists are not really that great on conservation - that's not their first concern . Though I'm sure they would like to talk like that and many countries have made a compromise on that. Again - yes there are exceptions and no not all such claims are duping).

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So I guess USA allows deer hunting.

In India hunting is banned. Completely. And this is hunters eying Indian deers:

India To Reopen Hunting?

(posted November 09, 2007)

Now, here is an intriguing development in the run-up to the international hunting conventions. Seems India may be on track to become a new destination for international sportsmen. We have that from a November 6 article in the Times of India newspaper, and from an individual who is maneuvering to become an agent for those hunts. We are not in a position right now to release that individual's name.

Right now, here is what is known: The Indian state of Madhya Pradesh is seriously considering a Campfire-type program in which local villages will benefit from licensed trophy hunting. Apparently, exploding populations of wild boar, blackbuck antelope and axis deer are devastating crops in certain areas of India. In Madhya Pradesh alone, the loss totals more than $2.5 million annually. Additionally, the animals are overgrazing sensitive habitats of the endangered hard-ground barasingha deer.

Our contact in India has confirmed that a trophy hunting program is in the works as a much needed conservation tool. However, there are various hurdles that must be cleared before the program can be implemented. The main problem is overcoming the public's anti-hunting sentiment, entrenched in much of India since the country shut down hunting in 1972. Another hurdle is getting the blackbuck downlisted from the Schedule 1 listing of the Indian Wildlife Protection Act. The Indian population of the animal, by the way, is not listed by CITES. Only the population in Nepal is, and it has a CITES III designation there.

The plan as it currently stands is to conduct various population surveys to determine hunting quotas, then offer permits for auction to private agencies that may then sell the permits to traveling hunters. Funds will be put back into management and given to local communities that have suffered depredation losses. Madhya Pradesh is not the only Indian state complaining of huge crop losses due to wildlife depredation. See the next issue of The Hunting Report for a more detailed report on this development. - Barbara Crown.

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This news^ is found only on hunting forums/letters on internet and have no Indian source. So much for concern for conservation. They were only hoping that that government could be maneuvered into allowing this.


And this forums was worse:

What I wouldn't give to have a brace of good pointers, a shotgun, and free reign to take all of the upland birds I could find. Dang! That'd be a dream come true.

Somebody like the NRA's American Hunter needs to do a show over there. I'm sure if they buttered the right palms they could get to hunt.

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So when you hear about Indian safari trophy hunting then you know they are outright illegal.

 

[Goetia]

Nothing sums up my reaction better than this

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[video=youtube;xzpndHtdl9A]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzpndHtdl9A[/video]

OT: Seriously though, seriously, who in the unholy mother of hell would think that Triceratops was real?

 

[Aim64C]

I googled about all this.
You could be right.
But I am not completely convinced by her arguments though. Could be all lies just to protect her image.
I also read that she wants to have her own TV hunting show. :/

Because the types of people who get outraged over animal rights are the types to actually listen to what a hunter has to say and believe them?

There's no protecting her image against the types of people who wish only to judge others and tear them down.

Which is precisely the type of society we live in. It is full of hatred and vitriol. Malice bubbles and churns just beneath the surface and most of our society is just looking for a reason to brutally kill and murder those who do not believe the same.

The savagery of modern society is a sight to behold.

Which is why I don't rush to judge. I know that I will never fully know the events that led up to the photo of her next to an animal I would prefer not be killed (indeed, I can't even know if it is killed). I will never know what was on her heart, and I will never be able to know precisely what is truth and what is fabrication.

I have nothing against hunting. We are a predatory animal and it is in our blood to kill (which is why the droves of society that are ignorant or outright reject this notion are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable - they will lapse into their instinct to kill without any control over the process). A healthy diet also includes meat. I also find that many hunters have an appreciation for the natural order of things and bother to actually study the behavior of animals (rather than just outright regard the animal as mystical and sacred). While not all do - most seem to fit that description.

The solution that this embraces is the basic idea behind the Conservation Department. While Missouri's decided it would be a great idea to bring elk back into the state (see what that does to a compact car full of teenagers, and the bleeding hearts will change their tune on Elk) - the idea behind a conservation department is that you manage/tend the natural environment rather than take a completely hands-off approach.

This is especially critical in the regions where 'wildlife' borders on civilization. The conservation department authorizes the hunting of bears when they begin to wander into people's back yards or start digging through fast food dumpsters. They authorize the hunting of deer before the delusional city councils suggest adding a separate lane of traffic for them on the town roads (unfortunately we can't authorize the hunting of bicyclers for that same purpose - if this town adds one more useless bike lane that all of two people will use with federal dollars...)

They burn off sections of land in a controlled manner during low-risk seasons to prevent flare ups of uncontrolled forest fires, and trim down trees growing in ways that make them prone to storm damage.

Africa developing similar institutions represents a practical outlook on man-nature interaction. That they have devised a means to appeal to hunters that benefits the overall population is even better - although I somewhat doubt it will quell the poachers. Responsible hunters tend to be responsible hunters - I doubt she would have sought to hunt those animals if it weren't through a legal conservation program. On the other hand - I doubt poachers are lining up to participate. They are used to doing whatever they want without anyone to tell them what they can and can't do with their prey.

But, there again, the poaching of predatory animals over there, if I understand, is more directly driven by villagers trying to protect their existence as opposed to trophy hunting.

Elephants and other such animals are a bit of a different story, if I understand correctly.

 

[Jin Hayami]

Sad fact is she probably still did more to save them than most of us.

Those animals were legally allowed kills(The villagers are too impoverished to leave the animals alone. They would encroach in the places reserved for these animals , and they kill them and eat them. Yea even tigers, elephants etc. They eat it all up and you can find the clippings of how they hunt these animals.) The money often goes to upkeep of the reserves for the rest. They chose which animals they can spare.

Some were so called "green kills"- where they just use tranquillizer guns. They chose the animals needing medical aid and instead of Vet taking the shot they let the "hunter" have that fun. The animal is tracked when he gets unconscious and treated. The hunters get the fun of taking the shot and taking a trophy snap. The money he gives enables the sponsorship for the vets and the others in the team in treating those animals.

Worse is half the haters if given a chance or that kind of money to spare will get that trophy snap with the animal. You can bet on it.

Truth.

People are really ignorant about hunting and conservation. The two go hand in hand. Hunters want to keep nature plentiful so they have something to hunt. Hippies want to keep nature plentiful so they can look at it. It's a win win situation but some people just can't accept the reality of being able to save three animals by hunting one.

Who was the greatest American conservationist?

This guy.

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[-PK-]

I only believe her on the count that the trophies she collected were acquired legally and that she is not as vile as the internet made her look in past few weeks. Uploading after poaching will be just on another plane of stupidity. And as for the show, there are already shows like that.


She is repeating the same thing those hunting safari hunting package offering countries say or organizers of these tours claim. These organizers are not 100% lying- the money they spend is often used for conservation by the locals and the governments at least partly( I guess). But it's business for most of them. Some may be also interested in genuine conservation and may even work for it but they would be very few. If she turns into a conservationist good for her. Otherwise whatever. She is just on among many.

Same for the hunters. Most of these tourists are not really that great on conservation - that's not their first concern . Though I'm sure they would like to talk like that and many countries have made a compromise on that. Again - yes there are exceptions and no not all such claims are duping).

See:

You must be registered for see links

So I guess USA allows deer hunting.

In India hunting is banned. Completely. And this is hunters eying Indian deers:




This news^ is found only on hunting forums/letters on internet and have no Indian source. So much for concern for conservation. They were only hoping that that government could be maneuvered into allowing this.


And this forums was worse:

You must be registered for see links

So when you hear about Indian safari trophy hunting then you know they are outright illegal.

Considering how the govt here usually acts, i wouldn't be surprised if they do allow hunting. :/
As long its for conversational purposes then i am up for it but just for fun and excitement of having a good kill, just nah.

Because the types of people who get outraged over animal rights are the types to actually listen to what a hunter has to say and believe them?

There's no protecting her image against the types of people who wish only to judge others and tear them down.

Which is precisely the type of society we live in. It is full of hatred and vitriol. Malice bubbles and churns just beneath the surface and most of our society is just looking for a reason to brutally kill and murder those who do not believe the same.

The savagery of modern society is a sight to behold.

Which is why I don't rush to judge. I know that I will never fully know the events that led up to the photo of her next to an animal I would prefer not be killed (indeed, I can't even know if it is killed). I will never know what was on her heart, and I will never be able to know precisely what is truth and what is fabrication.

I have nothing against hunting. We are a predatory animal and it is in our blood to kill (which is why the droves of society that are ignorant or outright reject this notion are incredibly dangerous and unpredictable - they will lapse into their instinct to kill without any control over the process). A healthy diet also includes meat. I also find that many hunters have an appreciation for the natural order of things and bother to actually study the behavior of animals (rather than just outright regard the animal as mystical and sacred). While not all do - most seem to fit that description.

The solution that this embraces is the basic idea behind the Conservation Department. While Missouri's decided it would be a great idea to bring elk back into the state (see what that does to a compact car full of teenagers, and the bleeding hearts will change their tune on Elk) - the idea behind a conservation department is that you manage/tend the natural environment rather than take a completely hands-off approach.

This is especially critical in the regions where 'wildlife' borders on civilization. The conservation department authorizes the hunting of bears when they begin to wander into people's back yards or start digging through fast food dumpsters. They authorize the hunting of deer before the delusional city councils suggest adding a separate lane of traffic for them on the town roads (unfortunately we can't authorize the hunting of bicyclers for that same purpose - if this town adds one more useless bike lane that all of two people will use with federal dollars...)

They burn off sections of land in a controlled manner during low-risk seasons to prevent flare ups of uncontrolled forest fires, and trim down trees growing in ways that make them prone to storm damage.

Africa developing similar institutions represents a practical outlook on man-nature interaction. That they have devised a means to appeal to hunters that benefits the overall population is even better - although I somewhat doubt it will quell the poachers. Responsible hunters tend to be responsible hunters - I doubt she would have sought to hunt those animals if it weren't through a legal conservation program. On the other hand - I doubt poachers are lining up to participate. They are used to doing whatever they want without anyone to tell them what they can and can't do with their prey.

But, there again, the poaching of predatory animals over there, if I understand, is more directly driven by villagers trying to protect their existence as opposed to trophy hunting.

Elephants and other such animals are a bit of a different story, if I understand correctly.

Well people should know the full story behind posting shit about it so casually. But most are just too lazy to do it. :/

And like i said above, hunting for conversation is okay but just for the fun (specially of an endangered species), so not okay.