face the truth: Orochimaru never defeated a kage level opponent

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I didn't read half the students you guys posted but anyways.

Of course Orochimaru never defeated a Kage Level Opponent. Yes, he defeated the Hokage and the Kazekage; but if a Itachi-wanker says he didnt defeat a Kage level shinobi than let it be. Itachi-wankers only have 2 things in mind
"ITACHI SOLOS ALL AND THE PEOPLE WHO ITACHI HAVE DEFEATED ARE TO BE MADE FUN OF IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE"

As for the Deidara part, Gaara was also protecting the village. The 4th Kazekage was not protecting the village at that time because if he would've been protecting it than the village would've known that the 4th Kazekage and Orochimaru are fighting.

Itachi never soloed a Kage level shinobi as well. He was assisted by Sasuke in his battle with Kabuto and would've lost if it wasn't for Sasuke. The Tayuya Genjutsu was enough to defeat the SOLO king.
 

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I didn't read half the students you guys posted but anyways.

Of course Orochimaru never defeated a Kage Level Opponent. Yes, he defeated the Hokage and the Kazekage; but if a Itachi-wanker says he didnt defeat a Kage level shinobi than let it be. Itachi-wankers only have 2 things in mind
"ITACHI SOLOS ALL AND THE PEOPLE WHO ITACHI HAVE DEFEATED ARE TO BE MADE FUN OF IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE"

As for the Deidara part, Gaara was also protecting the village. The 4th Kazekage was not protecting the village at that time because if he would've been protecting it than the village would've known that the 4th Kazekage and Orochimaru are fighting.

Itachi never soloed a Kage level shinobi as well. He was assisted by Sasuke in his battle with Kabuto and would've lost if it wasn't for Sasuke. The Tayuya Genjutsu was enough to defeat the SOLO king.

so I'm an Itachi wanker because of stating valid points
I didn't knew that lol
anyway if Dei was well prepared / going for the kill he would have raped Gaara with C2/C4 spam
 

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As for Hiruzen it was stated that Hiruzen, and a weakened Hashirama/Tobirama were partaking in a Kage-level battle far above that of the capabilities of ANBU. So yes, he did defeat a Kage-level ninja. It's more likely than not that he has defeated more off-screen.
 

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I don't know if I should even entertain this nonsense
 

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Your logic, directly is correct but at the same time incorrect. Kage Level - regardless of what state of life Hiruzen is in, he is a Kage therefore is Kage Level.
 

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As for Hiruzen it was stated that Hiruzen, and a weakened Hashirama/Tobirama were partaking in a Kage-level battle far above that of the capabilities of ANBU. So yes, he did defeat a Kage-level ninja. It's more likely than not that he has defeated more off-screen.

part1 was retconned multiple times

part2 jounin level (Kakashi Gai) >>> part1 kage level (unless you want old Hiruzen to be stronger than Kakashi or Gai)

Your logic, directly is correct but at the same time incorrect. Kage Level - regardless of what state of life Hiruzen is in, he is a Kage therefore is Kage Level.
power levels changed
now old Hiruzen is weaker than Gai and Kakashi who are jounins
 
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