face the truth: Orochimaru never defeated a kage level opponent

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

as for Hiruzen it was mentioned multiple times that he was nothing compared to his young self
...this is the reason why he choose Minato because he knew he was already too old to protect the village from a possible attack

as for the fourth Kazekage, there's no proof that he truly soloed Gaara's father
it might have been a surprise attack
or it's also possible that he had help from Kabuto / Kimimaro
so as far as there's no proofe you can't say that Oro > 4th Kazekage

feel free to disagree but these are totally valid points
only an idiot would deny that old Hiruzen was a high jounin at most

 

[Lightbringer]

Neither did Itachi on his own

 

[Oronagato]

Minus rep for hating on Orochimaru

 

[PredictionGuru]

Fourth Kazekage is a fodder. Of course he would defeat him alone.

 

[GenKiDama]

hiruzen was a kage, which means, try to follow this one real carefully, MEANS HES KAGE LEVEL :sy:

 

[Zuru]

Neither did Itachi on his own

Exactly, but no one seems to care. So why should we care that Oro hasn't?

 

[Draphsin]

Oro is so overrated

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[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Neither did Itachi on his own

Kabuto was easily Kage+ level and Sasuke was merely assisting
Deidara defeated a Kazekage so he's also kage level

hiruzen was a kage, which means, try to follow this one real carefully, MEANS HES KAGE LEVEL :sy:

old Hiruzen was a high jounin at most

 

[Kαmi]

hiruzen was a kage, which means, try to follow this one real carefully, MEANS HES KAGE LEVEL :sy:

Whoa, way too much logic in one post O_O

 

[alex11]

u retarted piece of shitt orochimaru was better than the 3 hokage witch he actually killed ..and far way stronger than tsunadee

 

[Lightbringer]

Kabuto was easily Kage+ level and Sasuke was merely assisting
Deidara defeated a Kazekage so he's also kage level



old Hiruzen was a high jounin at most

lol Sasuke only a assisting? It's still not a solo

Deidara is a kage-level for defeating a kazekage, but Old Hiruzen isn't kage level? Nice logic

 

[PredictionGuru]

Don't get so worked up, guys.

 

[Booker]

Oro is so overrated

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Orochimaru is underrated.

I feel as though this was a bait comment...

 

[Draphsin]

Whoa, way too much logic in one post O_O

Hiruzen would've killed oro if he was 10 years younger

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Meaning that he was way past his prime, couple this with the fact that he already had a successor who dies, & you get a hokage who isnt kage level U_U

Orochimaru is underrated.

I feel as though this was a bait comment...

No

People think that oro's top 3 because of his edos, if thats not overrating then idk what is...

 

[chintu234]

well oro held his own in his sealed hand state against the 2 sanins simultaneously both jiraya and tsunade being kage level he was toe to toe against both of them
if he had his hands he would have raped both the sanins

 

[sage1999]

He soloed 4 tails, in weakened form. He is considered Kage level by the whole world.

 

[Draphsin]

if he had his hands he would have raped both the sanins

If jiraiya had SM....nuff said

 

[chintu234]

He soloed 4 tails, in weakened form. He is considered Kage level by the whole world.

this one tooo if oro had his hands at that moment naruto series would have ended there

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

He soloed 4 tails, in weakened form. He is considered Kage level by the whole world.

what manga do you read?
he almost died against the 4tails

 

[magus zeal]

if he had arms that wouldnt have mattered thats like saying if tsunade wasnt nerfed in that fight by kabuto and jiriya wasnt nerfed by whatever nerfed him